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Albert Einstein vs Robert Oppenheimer
"e=Nc4" (game of the day Aug-14-2011)
Princeton USA (1933) (probably analysis)
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Caro Variation (C70)  ·  1-0

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Jan-17-07  Mac3: Is this game a case of Oppenheimer trying to explode and then imploding?

Or was it a case of Eistein operating at a higher level of quantum analysis?

Perhaps in the field of fuzzy logic both observations are true depending on how you look at them!?

Jan-17-07
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  JointheArmy: <Yeh some of you may have noticed I wasn't serious? =D>

If you weren't I was.

Jan-18-07  Rocafella: <sitz> lol would have been more worried if I would have said Stalin was a good guy... <join the army> Que?
Jan-28-07  blingice: <sitzkrieg: ffwwwew..:) I wasnt sure to be honest, my bad. You could have turned into one of those Acirce groupies..>

Don't you mean <RT> groupies? :D

Can this website stop being asinine/can someone rekindle the fascination I had with chess so that I can return to this website and have fun like I used to? No? Dang.

Jan-28-07  ughaibu: Christian terrorists: http://www.maggotpunks.com/antis/ff...
May-18-07  newton296: this game is so fake!! Its played way to well , like gm quality , and einstein was never known to play at all ! and objected to chess on moral grounds!
May-18-07
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  JointheArmy: <this game is so fake!! Its played way to well , like gm quality >

Far from it, at least the GM quality part.

May-18-07  Tomlinsky: <and objected to chess on moral grounds!>

Moral grounds? Did he assume the bishops weren't Catholic or something?

May-18-07
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  JointheArmy: <Rocafella> Haha. I forgot all about that post!
May-19-07  themadhair: The legendary speech that was previously reffered to can be heard fromthe author herself here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TC...).
Jul-08-07  JYMMI: Hey. Does somebody know where can I find some more information and/or analysis about this game? I am supposed to write an article about this game in the <Portuguese Wikipedia> (our chess portal link: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal...), but I still haven't found enough information to do it...
Jul-21-07
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  WannaBe: I will go ahead and 'claim' this game to be not real. According to "Einstein" by Walter Isaacson, Einstein arrived at Princeton's Institute for Advanced Studies Oct. 17, 1933.

At that time Oppenheimer was not at Princeton, I don't think he was even close to New Jersey.

On page 509, 3rd paragraph, <When Oppenheimer first visited the Institute in 1935, he called it a "madhouse"...>

(Oppenheimer became the director of the Institute for Advanced Studies after WWII ended...)

So this game, if it ever really happened, must have been '35 or later, not '33 as noted

Jul-21-07
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  alexmagnus: <WannaBe> Most chess historians have no doubt about the authencity of the game, but there are doubts about place, time and identity of the players. The only thing which is doubtless - black is Robert Oppenheimer. White is either Albert Einstein or his son Hans Albert. Place/time unknown.
Jul-26-07  newton296: game is fake
Aug-07-07  noiselesion: If this was Einstein doubtless he knew chess theory pretty well. The ruy lopez, the rook pin with the queen and the knight sac to get the d-file to open with the queen in front of the king. Would not be surprised if this game is authentic.
Aug-08-07  cotdt: it is authentic, einstein wrote about chess in the preface to various chess books. he also taught chess to a bunch of kids, but generally considered chess a waste of time compared to more important things like physics.
Aug-08-07  M.D. Wilson: Einstein and Lasker were friends. They had debates, like the Bohr-Einstein debates, about the nature of the universe, complimentarity, relativity, who was smarter, etc. Ocassionally, it violent, or so I've heard.
Aug-29-07  ellhares: ahahah oppenheimer is not a very good player althouth he was a good scientists!! i was ask my self one day why the great scientists all over the world are not the best players in chess too?!! they are supposed to be the greatest minds in the world so why they cant be the leaders of the chess game?!! but the more u know about the chess and about the human brain u know that the intelligence of the scientists is a very different kind of intellegence and its not nessasry to work when it comes to chess, but after all einstien is realy good chess player at least with looking to the date of the game!!
Aug-31-07  M.D. Wilson: I'm sure Oppenheimer was too busy with theoretical physics to give much attention to chess.
Sep-06-07  lopium: Yes, and it's disapointing to see such a game from Oppenheimer if you read his biography. Seems a very intelligent person.
Sep-06-07  Thorski: <lopium> Which Oppenheimer bio are you referring to? If you haven't already read it, Bird and Sherwin's American Prometheus is incisive. You might also want to check out Philip Stern's "The Oppenheimer Case: Security on Trial", for a more detailed treatise on his 1953 security clearance hearings.
Sep-07-07  lopium: I am referring to the one of wikipedia. For example, when I read "At Harvard, he majored in chemistry, but also studied topics beyond science, including Greek, architecture, classics, art, and literature. He made up for the delay caused by his illness, taking six courses each term and graduating summa cum laude in just three years. When at Harvard, Oppenheimer was admitted to graduate standing in physics in his first year as an undergraduate on the basis of independent study. During a course on thermodynamics taught by Percy Bridgman, Oppenheimer was introduced to experimental physics. In 1933 he learned Sanskrit and met the Indologist Arthur W. Ryder at Berkeley, and read the Bhagavad Gita in the original, citing it later as one of the most influential books to shape his philosophy of life." I think he was very intelligent. And there is much more about him in this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert...
Nov-22-07  D4n: the Father of Modern Physics vs the Father of the Atomic Age...it just goes to show great minds play chess...
Dec-03-07  Archives: "It worked"

Wow, at first I thought that quote referred to some sacrifice that Tal did so I searched through 50 of his games.

Then I found a quote by Soltis which had "it worked" in it and searched through all 121 of his games and it didn't work.

Had a few other random ideas which didn't work.

Then I figured that Lasker probably said it, so started searching through a game collection with 100 of his games.

Then out of nowhere I got the brilliant idea that maybe Oppenheimer said it about the atomic bomb.

weeeeeeeee

Dec-03-07
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  Domdaniel: <Archives> Nice find. Meanwhile I was working on the theory that "it" *obviously* meant a computer, and I was ploughing through the collected games of Chess 4.7, Deep Blue, etc.

Don't think I'll be splitting the atom anytime soon either ...

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