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E Neuhaus vs Friedrich Hipp
4th West German Congress (1864), Dusseldorf GER (Prussian Empire), rd 1, Aug-28
Van't Kruijs Opening: General (A00)  ·  0-1

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Feb-22-16  markwell: An opening which perfectly illustrates all the principles of pre-emptive surrender.
Feb-22-16  Once: 27... Rxe5 was tempting (and Fritzie says is a messy mate in 5) but then I spotted the mate in 2 with 27... Rxe1+.

Happy days.

Feb-22-16  M.Hassan: "Very Easy" indeed
Force White Rook off rank 2 and it is mate next

27..............Rxe1+
28.Rxe1(forced) Qf2#

Feb-22-16  zb2cr: A quick look sees that the White Rook at e2 is overworked; it must both prevent ... Qf2# and protect the White Knight at e1. So: 27. ... Rxe1+; 28. Rxe1, Qf2#.
Feb-22-16  saturn2: After looking for some moments at 27 ..Rxe5 first I qickly settled on 27..Rxe1 then.
Feb-22-16  whiteshark: The last move should indicate mate (#)
Feb-22-16  The Kings Domain: Vintage charmer. :-)
Feb-22-16  Once: <whiteshark: The last move should indicate mate (#)>

True, but I think this applies to all notation on CG. Some of the viewers can't show + for check, # for mate or x for captures.

I find it mildly annoying, so I tend to copy and paste the game into Fritz which puts all the notation back in.

Feb-22-16  YetAnotherAmateur: I'm so confused, this isn't a queen sac!

Just kidding: Mate in 2 with 27. ... Rxe1+ 28. Rxe1 Qf2#

Feb-22-16  patzer2: White's 26. Re2? allows mate-in-three.

Instead, 26. Qh4 puts up more resistance and makes Black work harder for the win with 26...Qxh4 27. Nxh4 g5! 28. Nf3 (28. Nxf5 Rd2! ) 28...g4 (-3.59 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 15) when play might continue 29. Nh4 Rd2 30. hxg4 Rxc2 31. Re2 Rc1+ 32. Re1 Rxe1+ 33. Kxe1 fxg4 34. Kd1 Kg7 (-3.67 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 15).

Feb-22-16  patzer2: The position for Black's 22nd move (diagram below) might make for a good future Thursday (22...?) puzzle:


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Here the expected move 22...Bb6 (-2.39 @ 22 depth, Deep Fritz 15), which was played in the actual game, wins with some difficulty.

However, there is a far better alternative with 22...fxe4! (-6.14 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 15) which is stronger from both a positional and a tactical perspective.

It's stronger from a positional perspective because it opens up a new line of attack for the Rook on the d-file before retreating. It's stronger from a tactical perspective because it creates numerous new tactical threats against the overworked Queen and under-protected King.

One instructive line is 22...fxe4! 23. Bxe4 (diagram below)


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where the one-move delayed retreat 23...Bb6! (-6.65 @ 19 depth, Deep Fritz 15) is now absolutely crushing. Clearly, the delayed 23...Bd6! here is much stronger than the immediate retreat 22...Bb6.

Feb-22-16  thegoodanarchist: This game is from olden times, when "Congress" was spelled with a "K" ;)
Feb-22-16
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  gawain: A nifty deflection.

White's queen is incredibly badly placed!

Feb-22-16  kevin86: Instead of a queen sac and a rook mate... we have the reverse.
Feb-22-16  BOSTER: Many moves the f2 square was protected by white queen. But white king changed his mind, and moved the rook to do this job. The King was naked.
Feb-22-16  DrGridlock: White's rook on e2 is over-worked and under-paid. But since his employer is about to go out of business, he's not going to get that raise!

27 ... Rxe1 (diverting White's rook from protecting f2)

28 Rxe1 (forced), Qf2 # (mate is never a bad move)

Feb-22-16  saturn2: In the opening White contributed a lot to stay back in development.
Feb-22-16  Longview: Question for <patzer2>. I wonder if white had a better move than 24.Bc4? It seems that was the setup for the entry of the rook. Would h4 planning Rh3 a better way. Could black have continued his crush?
Feb-22-16  DrGridlock: Instructive of how NOT to play an opening:

In the first 6 moves, White moved his queen twice, yet it still stays on d1 and White has movee no minor pieces.

Since he cannot castle king-side and his e-pawn, queen and king are all lined up with black's rook on the e-file, White invests a move (14) in Kf1.

No white piece ever makes it past the 5th rank.

Until move 25, no white piece makes it to the 4th rank, except to be captured on the next move.

From move 20 on, Black maintains a mate threat with queen and bishop on f2.

After giving up his ability to castle on move 14, White's rook never leaves h1.

Feb-22-16  PJs Studio: He deserved to get mated playing 1.e3
Feb-22-16  Nullifidian: Deflecting the rook with 27... ♖xe1+ 28. ♖xe1 ♕f2#
Feb-22-16  patzer2: <Longview> Deep Fritz 15 x 64 indicates 24. h4 (-2.42 @ 20 depth) is slightly better than 24. Bc4+ (-3.06 @ 20 depth), but it does not appear to make much difference as both moves are losing.
Feb-22-16  Sniffles: Well duhh. I'd really like to park my queen in that thar kings face but that rook will eat me. How can I get that rook to move?

We need about 12 more days in the week. The Monday puzzles like this are painfully obvious then suddenly Friday we get an obviously painful difficulty level.

Feb-23-16
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  eternaloptimist: I got this 1 correct quickly...very easy indeed. Neuhaus underprotected his f2 square.
Feb-24-16
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  perfidious: <DrGridlock: Instructive of how NOT to play an opening....>

While I would never advocate being slavishly devoted to Reinfeldian opening principles, even a slight attempt by White to get his pieces out of the box might have given him a playable game, sans all the tempo-wasting moves (2.a3, 4.Qxd4 and 6.h3).

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