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| Dec-12-08 | | whiteshark: art for art's Dake |
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| Dec-12-08 | | kackhander: bravo |
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| Dec-12-08 | | kackhander: though i might hazard a guess it's been a slow day in the office whiteshark? :) |
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| Dec-12-08 | | whiteshark: sry kack wont do o'time to answer apt :D |
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| Aug-19-09 | | jerseybob: Like a leadoff walk to the number-nine hitter, White's 12.b4 comes back to haunt him. Of course with his weird weak 4.Bd2 line, he's already struggling. Maybe 12.Nd2!?, and if Nxc3, 13.bxc3 aiming for an eventual f3 and e4. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Patriot: Black is up a pawn and white threatens 32.Qxa8.
How about 31...Ng4?
32.Qxa8 Qxe3+ 33.Ke1 Qf2+ 34.Kd1 Ne3+ is interesting but many more possibilities. 32.Qxa8 Qxe3+ 33.Ke1 Qxg5 seems good enough.
32.Rxg4 fxg4 33.Qxa8 g3 looks winning.
I'll go with 31...Ng4. |
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Dec-19-13
 | | al wazir: So what happens after 38. Qc2+ ? |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Patriot: Tough Thursday! Unfortunately 31...Ng4 loses to 32.Rxg4 fxg4 33.Qxa8 g3 34.Qxe4+ where the queen checks until it reaches f3, defending and winning. Tricky stuff! |
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| Dec-19-13 | | shivasuri4: <al wazir>, I believe nothing extraordinary happens after 38.Qc2+. Black should win owing to his extra material (2 pawns) after 38...Kg5 39.Bxf3 Kf4 40.Bc6 d5. |
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Dec-19-13
| | al wazir: <shivasuri4: I believe nothing extraordinary happens after 38.Qc2+. Black should win owing to his extra material (2 pawns) after 38...Kg5 39.Bxf3 Kf4 40.Bc6 d5.> So black was two ♙s up at move 31, and now at move 40 he is still two ♙s up? That's not much of a combination. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Nice. I whiffed on this because I didn't see how quickly the pawn break would turn into mating threats. White's rook was also trapped, but Qxd6 is timely enough to defend it, assuming Black saved his rook first. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Amadori: got 31...f4. Then all hell broke looce |
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| Dec-19-13 | | JimNorCal: 36. ... Qxe2+ followed by f2 looks strong. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | thegoldenband: <JimNorCal: 36. ... Qxe2+ followed by f2 looks strong.> Not just strong, but immediately lethal and totally straightforward -- which makes 36...Qxd4+ a major mistake, since White can continue to offer at least token resistance after the game line and then 38. Qc2+. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | shivasuri4: <al wazir>, yes, but the position is now simplified and the win is assured. Also, 36...Qxe2+ 37.Kc1 f2 is the more accurate way to play. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | diagonalley: managed to get the moves to 33... P-B6 hoping that was good enough - seems it was (though i should have foreseen 34. RxP+ and didn't) ... nice puzzle |
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| Dec-19-13 | | WoodPushkin: Greetings:
This is a toughie. Pinned bishop. Both rooks have issues. The position is 'almost' blocked enough for... 31..Ng4 but not quite as e4 is weak and the Black king is exposed to checks. So,
32.RxN fg4 33.QxR g3 will be too slow as the white queen opens a perpetual checking account which will pay a default swap dividend on f4 when Black is out of pieces to Whites bishop. With all that in mind the pinned bishop is worth the hanging rook because of the weak/backward e3 pawn. <31...f4!> clears the path for attack and Whites position collapses. If 32. QxR then the resulting position is Q + three pawns vs. Q, N and five pawns. ex. 31...f4
If 32. Qxa8 Qxe3+ 33. Kd1 f3 34. Rxg7+ (34. Bxf3 Qxf3+ 35. Kc2 Qe2+ 36.
Kb3 Qe3+ 37. Kc2 Qxg5) Kxg7 35. Qb7+ Kg6 36. Qc8 Qxd4+ 37. Ke1 e3 0-1 If 32. ef4 (a better defense) then the result is Q,B and pawn vs. Q,N and five pawns (four on dark squares) (32...Qxf4+ 33. Kd1 Qxg5 34. Qxa8 Qg1+ 35. Kc2 Qf2 36. Kd1 Qxd4+ 37. Ke1 Qa1+ 38. Bd1 Qc3+ 39. Kf1 Qc4+ 40. Ke1 Qb4+ 41. Ke2 Qxb5+ 42. Ke1 Qb4+ 43. Ke2 Qb2+ 44. Ke1 Qc3+ 45. Kf1 d5 46. Qb8) Either way its an overwhelming win for Black with correct play. Both ideas have Black opening its own checking account which pays interest in pieces and pawns being swept away by the queen until a mutual 'fun' trade can be arranged and White can resign w/ its 'bad' bishop. JAH Love |
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| Dec-19-13 | | whiteshark: Yes!
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| Dec-19-13 | | morfishine: I got <31...f4 32.Qxa8 Qxe3+ 33.Kd1> then struggled between 33...Qxd4+ & 33...f3 and was unable to come to a conclusion A pity since 33...f3 is so much better :(
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| Dec-19-13 | | gofer: This was not so tricky...
<31 ... f4>
<32 Qxa8 Qxe3+>
<33 Kd1 f3>
White probably resigns at this point as both the rook and bishop are lost leaving black two passed pawns and there is no obvious way forward as knights are very useful at stopping checks from queens! ~~~
Okay white realised that the rook was done for and so threw it at the black king, which takes us to here... <34 Rxg7+ Kxg7+>
<35 Qb7+ Kg6>
click for larger viewWhy doesn't white resign this? There are no checks available for white on the light squares and so Nf6 is going to make a perpetual check extremely difficult to find given that the queen can on give check on g3 and has no route to g3! <36 Qc8??>
Why did black play Qxd4+?? Surely black should play
36 ... Qxe2
37 Kc1 f2 mating in two more? |
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Dec-19-13
 | | Penguincw: Unfortunately, I didn't even the rook on a8 attacked and tried 31...Kh6. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Nick46: <WoodPushkin: Greetings: This is a toughie...> Agreed, but just wait till roarin' Sunday. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | agb2002: Black has a knight and two pawns for a bishop.
White threatens 32.Qxa8, 32.Qxb6, 32.Qxd6 and 32.Qc7 followed by Qxg7#. The white king is not very safe and the white rook is defenseless. These details suggest 31... f4: A) 32.Qxa8 f3
A.1) 33.Qb7 Qxe2+ 34.Kc1(3) Qxe3+ and 35... Qxg5 - + [N+3P]. A.2) 33.Rg4 Qxe2+ (33... Nxg4 34.Qxe4+ and 35.Qxf3) 34.Kc1(3) Qxe3+ and 35... Nxg4 - + [N+3P]. A.3) 33.Rf5 Qxe2+ 34.Kc3 (34.Kc1 f2 - +) 34... Qxe3+ 35.Kc2 (35.Kc4 Qd3#; 35.Kb2 Qxd4+ followed by f2, etc.) 35... f2 36.Qb7 f1=Q 37.Rxf1 Qe2+ and 38... Qxf1 - +. B) 32.exf4 Qxf4+ 33.Kd1 (33.Kc3 Qxg4 34.Qxa8 Qe3+) 33... Qxg4 34.Qxa8 Qd5 - + [N+2P vs B]. C) 32.Rf5 fxe3+ 33.Kd1 Qxf5 34.Qxa8 Qd5 - + [N+3P vs B]. D) 32.Rxg7+ Kxg7 33.Qxa8 f3 - +. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | Marmot PFL: 31...f4 32 Qxa8 (already too late to turn back with Qc3 as f3 wins) 32...Qxe3+ 33 Kd1 (Kc2 Qxe2+ with 3 pawns for exchange and unstoppable passed pawns) 33...f3 with double attack on rook and bishop. |
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| Dec-19-13 | | kevin86: The passed pawns will eventually win the show |
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