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|May-20-12|| ||scormus: Amazing sequence. Both players threatening everything in sight, with 21 Nxe7+ looking particulrly nasty. The natural looking 20 ... Bxd5 doesnt work so the only shot must be ... e2 and then offer up the Q. |
Truly insane but 20 ... e2 21 Nxe7+ Qxe7 and if 22 Qxe7 then exd1=Q is completely winning. So I thought most likely was 22 Rxd8+ with the killer threat on g2. Which is was/
Even more incredible is I got it, but I suppose no more incredible than Chelsea winning CL.
6/7 for the week, shame I didnt give myself enough time yesterday. I dont expect I'll ever get another chance to get all 7 in the week. Sigh.
|May-20-12|| ||dzechiel: Black to move (20...?). White is up two pawns. "Insane."|
It looks to me like black gets a lot of pull after...
20...Rxg2 21 Nxe7+ Qxe7 22 Qxe7 Rd2+ 23 Rf3 Bxf3+ 24 Kg1 Rg8+ 25 Kf1 Rf2+ 26 Ke1 Rg1#
Of course, there's a lot of play in which white doesn't try to take on e7. But I think this is the general idea.
Time to check.
Or, maybe not. Compelling play by Ljubojevic.
|May-20-12|| ||sevenseaman: <scormus> <Even more incredible is I got it, but I suppose no more incredible than Chelsea winning CL>. |
Yes, I didn't give Chelsea a ghost of a chance. What with Terry, Ivanovic, Ramirez and Miereles missing through suspension/injury, specifically Terry and Ivanovic I was in utter despair. Incredible Di Matteo relying on Ryan Bertrand for containing Arjen Robens? Amazing footie nous.
But surprise of surprises, its the Chelsea old guard that brought the top European glory to the club. This was the best news for me this whole year. My favorite club has redeemed itself for eternity.
|May-20-12|| ||mistreaver: Sunday.20...Black to play. Insane.
This is rather a wild position, with threats on both sides.
Black's position is better, as g2 is very weak, and e2 is threatened.
I'll suppose there's a forced line without any quiet moves. The 2 candidates that look good
are Rxg2 and e2.
Let's first try more obvious e2:
Now white has to play
21 Nxe7+ Qxe7
If White takes the queen, there is line:
22. Qxe7 Pxd1 (queen) and black wins
there only remains:
22 Rxd8+ Qxd8
23 Rg1 e1(queen)
24 Rxe1 Rxg2 and it's winning for black.
Hmmm, i am almost certain i have missed something here.
Just to be sure, let's see what happens after Rxg2:
22 Qxe7 Rg7+
23 Kg2 Rxe7
This line is clearly worse for black.
Sundays are way too much for my tactical skill. Time to check.
Hmmm i missed the strongest defence e7, but i am pretty satisfied with the fact i came pretty close to solution. I know the key to this puzzle is underpromotion at f1, but still i think that giving 0.5 out of 1 wouldn't be too much.
Therefore, i end the week with 4.5/7. Could have been better, could have been worse.
|May-20-12|| ||agb2002: Black has the bishop pair for a bishop, a knight and two pawns.|
White threatens 21.Nxe7+.
The first idea that comes to mind is 20... e2:
A) 21.Nxe7+ Qxe7
A.1) 22.Qxe7 Rxd1 23.Rg1 Rxg1+ 24.Kxg1 e1=Q+ 25.Kh2 Rxg2#.
A.2) 22.Rxd8+ Qxd8
A.2.a) 23.Re1 Bxg2+
A.2.a.i) 24.Kh2 Qd6+ 25.Kg1 Qd4+ 26.Kh2 (26.Qf2 Bxh3+) 26... Qe5+ 27.Kg1 Qe3+ 28.Kh2 Qg3+ 29.Kg1 Bf3#.
A.2.a.ii) 24.Kg1 Qd4+ transposes to A.2.a.i.
A.2.b) 23.Rg1 Bxg2+ 24.Rxg2 (24.Kh2 Qd6+ 25.Qf4 Qxf4#) 24... e1=Q+ wins.
B) 21.Qxe7 exf1=Q+ 22.Rxf1 Rxd5 23.Qxc5 Rxc5 24.e7 Bxg2+ 25.Kg1 Bxf1+ 26.Bxg8 Bb5 27.Bf7 Re5 wins.
|May-20-12|| ||James D Flynn: 20…….e2
A. 21.Nxe7+ Qxe7 22.Qxe7 exd1(Q) 23.Rxd1 Rxd1+ 24.Kh2 Rxg2#
B. 21.Qxe7 Rxd5 22.Qxc5(if 22.Bxd5 Qxe7) Rxc5 23.e7 exf1(Q)+ 24.Rxf1 Bxg2+ 25.Kh2 Bxf1 26.Bxg8 Kd7 and Black wins the e7 pawn and emerges a R up.
|May-20-12|| ||FSR: I'll bet Ljubo played 20...e2 intending 21.Nxe7+ Qxe7 22.Qxe7 Rxd1. Looks good to me. If instead 21.Qxe7, exf1(Q)+ 22.Rxf1 Rxd5.|
|May-20-12|| ||Patriot: White is up 2 pawns for the bishop pair.
White threatens 21.Qxe7 or 21.Nxe7+.
Black could try <20...e2>. White's best try may be <21.Qxe7>, since 21.Nxe7+ Qxe7 22.Qxe7 Rxd1.
<21...Qxe7 22.Nxe7+ Kc7 23.Nxg8 Rxd1 >
|May-20-12|| ||tud: 20... Rg2 opens a possibility to fight the Ke7+.|
|May-20-12|| ||sevenseaman: < James D Flynn> Nicely thought out variation at <B. 21.Qxe7 Rxd5 22.Qxc5(if 22.Bxd5 Qxe7) Rxc5 23.e7 exf1(Q)+ 24.Rxf1 Bxg2+ 25.Kh2 Bxf1 26.Bxg8 Kd7 and Black wins the e7 pawn and emerges a R up.>|
Something new. Ljubomir has indeed excelled in this endgame.
|May-20-12|| ||chrisowen: Evolve into single mind amazing how envisage the climbing! Escaped my |
attention for a long time e2. Preffering instead prodigally clean
swoop gurgled black Rxg2 or Rxd5 isnt coming off. Poked around and
found e2 prize rook for bishop ie nxd5 qxd5 qxe7 exd1 team effort in
dredging rooks apart in together key it is finding a way to grab g2
and one furrowed rook whilst maintaining pressure on whites low king.
Many a moon could not investigate all lines yet in thorough fare
pleased i have got lucky i guess searching to conclude win e2 nxe7
qxe7 as fas i got so am happy it is partially solved to a degree in.
|May-20-12|| ||DarthStapler: I at least considered the first move|
|May-20-12|| ||rilkefan: I had in mind 20...Rxg2 21.Kxg2 e2, which wins, but 21.Qxe7 is crushing.|
|May-20-12|| ||Julian713: Got 20...e2, not a whole lot else. Understood the concept of fork promotion and keeping the black king in check until the queen can escape to help, but not sure I would have wrapped it up as neatly as the text.|
|May-20-12|| ||mccarthpm: 25.bishop to d5 also wins easily|
|May-20-12|| ||bachbeet: The forking pawn was pretty simple to see. The rest was definitely not. No points for me for seeing that forking pawn.|
|Nov-30-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: I consider it an honor to become the first to congratulate the composer of today's pun for the outstanding word work.|
|Nov-30-17|| ||offramp: Great game. However, the pun made my thoughts jump rapidly to Turdidae for some reason.|
|Nov-30-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: I approve of the pun!
If <morf> wants to bash it, he's on his own this time.
|Nov-30-17|| ||goodevans: <17.Qxe6+ Kb8 18.Bxd5> would have given white a nice advantage. If <18...Bxd5> then <19.Qe5+ Bd6 20.Qxd5> would regain the piece.|
|Nov-30-17|| ||Annie K.: <An Englishman> Thanks :)|
|Nov-30-17|| ||Mudphudder: Who cares. It's still Tarjan....the biggest underdog to take down Kramnik!!!|
|Nov-30-17|| ||Domdaniel: Ode to a Knighting L ... two dollars.|
|Nov-30-17|| ||Domdaniel: <Annie> Your puns are getting worse, ie better, ie worse, ie ... (blows fuse).|
|Dec-01-17|| ||kevin86: A real swashbuckler!|
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