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| Jan-27-12 | | newzild: Wow, when I clicked through the game and saw 16...c4 17. Qg3 I thought I had missed a key variation. Then I realised that White missed a mate-in-two on d8. It's always nice to spot something a Grandmaster missed. The strange thing is, Fette probably saw 16...c4 17. Qg3 back on move 14, when he exchanged on c6. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | sevenseaman: Driving back from Town and munching the puzzle I felt I had missed an easy mate on d8 and was all pumped up. Saw the comments and found the discovery had already been made by every friend, cousin and uncle. Though not by GM Fette; and I am at least 900 rating points behind! I could have done better concentrating on the road; all but overran a cuddly-looking pup. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | Once: Ever get the feeling that it's just not your day? The piece I feel sorry for here is the black queen. Here she is in Starbucks after the game, talking to her girlfriends... "I have just had the worst day of my life. You won't believe what happened to me." Girlfriend #1 (empathising): "What happened?"
"There I was, minding my business on f6. And you never guess what my boss did? Forgot to castle! Again! If I've told him once, I've told him a thousand times. You've got to castle. I tell you, men can't multi-task." Girlfriend #2 (empathising disdainfully): "Men!"
"Then I've got to scurry back home to e7 because himself has got all mixed up with a mate threat on d7. I mean, don't they ever read an instruction manual?" Girlfriend #3: "Men!"
"And then you'll never guess what happened next. Only a little upstart bishop from across the street starts hitting on me from h4." Back to girlfriend #1: "No!"
Girlfriend #2 and 3: "Men!"
"So I said to himself that he should look after me. And he says why don't you just say "no" cos that's what you always say to me." "Men!"
"So I said 'why not 16...f6?' and he says '17. Qg3+ Qf7 18. Rd8+' which is fair enough but I do hate it when he smirks like that. It's not as if he's right very often so there's no need to come over all high and mighty with me, little man." "Men!"
"So then I thought 'I'll show him'. I put on my best skirt, heels to die for and scarlet lippy. If I'm gonna have a bad day, at least I'm looking good. You know what I mean, girlfriends?" "Sho do!"
"So I think 16...c4. It loses, but it loses with style. Then 17. Qd8+ Qxd8 18. Rxd8#. If I gotta go, she's going with me. But I don't even get that. Instead I gotta put up with 17. Qg3." 
click for larger view"So while we are all stopping himself from getting killed, I don't even get to sacrifice myself with style." Girlfriends, 1, 2 and 3 "Men!" |
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| Jan-27-12 | | gofer: White can create an obvious threat...
<15 Qd3 ...>
15 ... Be7 16 Qd7+ Kf8 17 Qxb7 winning the rook
<15 ... Qe7>
<16 Bh4 ...>
17 ... f6 18 Qg6+ Qf7 19 Rd8+ Ke7 20 Rd7+ winning
<16 ... Rd6>
<17 Bxe7 Rxd3>
<18 Rxd3 Bxe7>
<19 Rfd1 O-O>
<20 Rd7 ...>
Black has lost control of the seventh rank, its all over... |
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| Jan-27-12 | | KingV93: I actually got this. Didn't think for a minute it was really correct but it seems to follow some of the recent themes we've seen. d7 can't easily be protected, the Queen decoy is there, but is there enough time, ahhh yes, the back rank is unprotected as well...too many holes for Black. I must be butter 'cause I'm on a roll. (I know, I know waaay too old) |
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Jan-27-12
 | | FSR: White wins material with 15.Qd3! (threatening Qd7#) Qe7 (forced) 16.Bh4!: 16...Qxh4?? 17.Qd7#
16...g5? 17.Bxg5!
16...f6? 17.Qg6+ (the point of 16.Qd3!) Qf7 18.Rd8+ Ke7 19.Rd7+ wins queen for rook 16...Qd6? 17. Qg3! (far and away the strongest - it took me a long time to see this finesse) wins at least queen for rook; 17...Qxg3?? 18.Rd8# and 17...Qc7?? 18.Qxc7 Rxc7 19.Rd8# lose immediately 16...Rd6! (best, though still hopeless) 17.Bxe7 Rxd3 18.Rxd3! (even stronger than straightening out White's pawn structure with 18.cxd3) Bxe7 19.Rfd1 wins the exchange and prepares to invade the seventh rank with 20.Rd7, etc. 16...c4 17.Qd2 is similar to the preceding two lines after 17...Qd6? 18.Qf4! e5? 19.Qxe5+! or 17...Rd6! 18.Bxe7 Rxd2 19.Rxd2 Bxe7 20.Rfd1. |
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Jan-27-12
| | FSR: Hah! I think my analysis is pretty good, except that after 16...c4?? I missed 17.Qd8+! - but so did Fette! |
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| Jan-27-12 | | Memethecat: <15Qd3> if <15...Be7 16Qd7+ > wins P & R at least. <15...Qe716Bh4> deflects. Less lazy kbzrs will expand. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | morfishine: White plays <15.Qd3> and Black cannot defend <d7> (or <d8> for that matter) properly Main line: <15.Qd3 Qe7 16.Bh4> and Black loses his Queen after <16...f6 17.Qg6+ Qf7 18.Rd8+ Ke7 19.Rd7+> Nice work <jimfromprovidence> for finding a way for Black to "only" lose an exchange and prolong the game awhile. After <19.Rfd1> Black should probably castle and play his Bishop to <f6> all the while having no real hope of even drawing. At least he avoids the catastrophe seen in the game. <LifeMasterAJ> sums it up quite well. Blacks <16...c4> is no defense allowing mate in 2. Although White misses the mate, his position is so strong that <17.Qg3> suffices |
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Jan-27-12
| | FSR: Weirdly, I seem to be the only person thus far to consider 16...Qd6. Probably Fette saw 16...Qd6 17.Qg3! When Black played 16...c4??, he likely figured, "Fine, I'll just play Qg3 now and he's crushed." - overlooking 17.Qd8+! By the way, contrary to what some people have said, Fette is just a FIDE Master, not a grandmaster. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | hirthman: Isn't 15 ... Be7 better for black than Qe7? |
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Jan-27-12
| | FSR: <hirthman: Isn't 15 ... Be7 better for black than Qe7?> No. After 15...Be7 16.Qd7+ Kf8 17.Qxb7, Black is losing at least a rook (17...e5? 18.Qa8+ Bd8 19.Rxd8+ Ke7 20.Rxh8 is even worse). |
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| Jan-27-12 | | Memethecat: Strange ending, I expected <17Qd8 Qxd8 18Rxd8#> Qg3 obviously works as well, maybe white had lots of time & wanted to be clever. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | kurtrichards: <17.Qg3>??? When 17. Qd8+ turns the lights out at once. As the computer says in ChessTactics, "17.Qg3 is a good move but that is not what the computer likes. Look for another move." :) |
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| Jan-27-12 | | Patriot: I stared at this for about 10 minutes and thought the answer would be 15.Qd2. If 15...Qe7 16.Bh4 or 15...Be7 16.Qd7+ Kf8 17.Qxb7. Now I see that 15.Qd2 Qe7 16.Bh4 f6 is a problem. In the game line, this isn't a problem since 17.Qg6+ causes major problems for black. I thought 15.Qd2 might be better since it keeps the queen from coming under fire with ...c4. But that is proven wrong here. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | moppa: I can't believe I missed this one. I had 15.Qd3 Qe7 16.Bh4 alright but missed that g6 will be free after 16...f6. I'm disappointed because the theme is obvious. I noticed in seconds that the control of the d-file and h4-d8 diagonal is essential with the well-known mating theme with Bh4 and Rd8 but still missed it. I guess my mind forgot that a pawn move always weakens a square.... |
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| Jan-27-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: In this early middlegame position, material is even, but white's control of the open d-file promises to make trouble for black's uncastled king. Black apparently intends h4 to take away h4 as an attacking post for white's bishop, but it's too late: 15.Qd3!
The direct mate threat does not leave a satisfactory reply for black. The critical choice of 15.Qd3 over Qd2 is best found by forward calculation, but it might be reached on general priciples, i.e.if white's remaining bishop controls dark squares, then the white queen should be on a light square to cover all the bases. A) 15... Qe7 16.Bh4!! (the key) f6? 17.Qg6+ Qf7 18.Rd8+ Ke7 19.Rd7+ wins queen for a rook. A.1) 16... g5 17.Bxg5 (Qxg5 18.Qd7#) just chucks a pawn for no benefit. A.2) 16... Rd6 17.Bxe7 Rxd3 18.Rxd3 leaves black an exchange down and a lost ending, but this is black's best defense. B) 15... Be7 16.Qd7+ Kf8 17.Qxb7! e5 (otherwise 18.Qxc6) 18.Qb8+ wins. Not complex tactically, but very instructive. Time for review... |
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| Jan-27-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: I forgot to include the obvious A.3) 16... Qc7 17.Qd8+ forcing mate. Therefore I was surprised to see 17.Qg3 instead of the immediate 17.Qd8+ (but it does get the job done). |
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Jan-27-12
 | | Penguincw: Well, at least this game doesn't have any accepted sacrifices. Those can be the hardest to find. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | Apoline48: 17 Qd8 is mat in 2! |
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| Jan-27-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: I set up Crafty EGT with the puzzle position, but it isn't working right now. Anyway, here it is - maybe it will work later: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... |
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Jan-27-12
 | | gawain: I keep looking at that d7 square. How will White force his way in? With 15 Qd2 or Qd3? But I am not seeing a win for White after 15....Be7 . Oh well, I give up. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | David2009: M Fette vs R Storm, 1991 White 15? It has all been said already: indeed <CHESSTTCAMPS> has posted a Crafty link to the puzzle position. So I have edited my own post accordingly The EGT is not responding at the time of posting (the position appears but then blanks as soon as a move is made). Fine analysis by <Jimfromprovidence> to find Black's best defence, and much better than 15...Be7 which was all I couold find as struggle-on defence. Excellent story from <Once>. Black's mistake was 13...h5 instead on 13...Be7, but White seems better. Interactive link to explore the variations at move 13: 
click for larger view (M Fette vs R Storm 1991 White to play 13?)
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... |
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| Jan-27-12 | | SugarRaySam: Here's the solution:
15.Qd3 (threat = 16.Qd7#)
15...Qe7 is the only option for black
(could play Be7 but then 16.Qd7+ Kf8 leads to a world of trouble) 16.Ba4
(adds a second threat 17.Qd8 Qxd8 18.Rxd8#)
17...Qd6 is the only option
(if 17...f6 18.Qg6+ Qf7 19.Rd8+ losing the Queen)
18.Qg3 giving the final blow to white's attack
Now there is no way the Queen can prevent Rd8# and it is trap,
Black could try in a desperate way 18...QxRd1 but then 19.Qb8+ with mate (if 19...Kd7 20.Qd8#) or (if 19...Qd8 20.Qxd8#) This must have been a Blitz game or the players probably ran out of time as white missed a mate in two and black did not offer a very long opposition. Thank you. |
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| Jan-27-12 | | dzechiel: <SugarRaySam: (could play Be7 but then 16.Qd7+ Kf8 leads to a world of trouble)> I don't why I didn't consider 15...Be7, because, while it still loses, it does deserve attention. After 16...Be7
white would continue with
17 Qd7+ Kf8 18 Qxb7
and there's no way for black to save the rook. And even if he could, the queen check on the back rank would force 19...Bd8 where it would be subject to capture by the queen and rook. |
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