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| May-26-06 | | Counterpoint: Crushing!! |
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| May-26-06 | | dzechiel: Saw it up thru 31 Rxe7. Could not find the last few moves to put it away. I spent a couple of minutes trying to decide what to sac on e6, as 27 Re6 looked tempting in several variations, but finally decided on the knight check, mostly because it was a) very forcing and b) not really a sac as there is no way that black can capture with the f-pawn due to Qxg6 followed by fxe6 and Rf1. |
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| May-26-06 | | chessmoron: 28...Nxe6 could been less crushing for black. 33...Nxf6 34. f8=Q  Kxf8 35. Qxf6 Kg8 36. Qg7# |
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| May-26-06 | | dzechiel: <Counterpoint> After 28...Nxe6 white can play 29 Rxe6 and black is a piece down and still has a lousy position. |
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| May-26-06 | | chessmoron: <dzechiel> less crushing than 28...Rh6 |
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| May-26-06 | | RandomVisitor: 27.Re6 might work as a solution. |
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| May-26-06 | | chessmoron: <RV> Never thought of that, but yes it will definitely work and even could be stronger too. |
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| May-26-06 | | DoctorChess: Yes, dzechiel -- 27. Re6 was tempting. But 27. Ne6+ was the knockout move. 5 for 5 this week! Give it up for the doctor of chessgames.com people! |
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May-26-06
 | | GoldenKnight: Yes, 27.Re6 was the move I found, but I really liked Panov's continuation as well. The key was to recognize the apparently well-defended e6 as the weak point in Black's position given the dynamics of the position (White's aggressive and advanced placement of pieces and pawns vis-a-vis Black's backwardness). |
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| May-26-06 | | ganstaman: I wanted to try 27. fxg6 fxg6 28. Re6. However, I think that this doesn't work. e6 is such a tempting square to put a piece on, too, but it has to be done now before the f pawns disappear. |
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| May-26-06 | | cotdt: i agree with chessmoron. Just seeing the first two moves is enough to solve this puzzle, since the rest black played poorly. |
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| May-26-06 | | ataturk: Boy, that is total demolition... I'd have resigned after the third move..... |
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| May-26-06 | | LivBlockade: Does 29...♖eh8 (instead of ...♖f8) save a tempo for Black? His position still looks shattered, but maybe he can make things a little more difficult for White. |
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| May-26-06 | | Marcelo Adaes: (trying to correct my poor English)
I saw 27.♘e6+ in just a few seconds, and followed the obvious bad response, 27....fxe6. Than I saw 27....♗xe6 and 27....♘xe6 and at this point 28.dxe6 "looked like" a strong play, but I did not dig into it. So I think I did not solve the puzzle entirely, just the beggining. But for a friday I think its pretty good! :) Do you boys (and girls) do this very much when playing in real? Play by the "look like"? I think it is my worst problem... |
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May-26-06
 | | al wazir: If Ne6+ is so devastating, why not play it sooner? I think 25. Ne6+ also wins. |
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| May-26-06 | | you vs yourself: <Marcelo Adaes> Don't worry about your English. We can understand you just fine. <Do you boys (and girls) do this very much when playing in real? Play by the "look like"? I think it is my worst problem...> I'm sure most of us have the same problem. That's why we miss many of the friday, saturday and sunday puzzles. But the more you attempt to solve these puzzles, the closer you get to getting rid of that problem. So, keep working on it. |
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| May-26-06 | | Drifter: I think finding the key move is the easy part. Proving why it works is much more difficult. |
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May-26-06
 | | LIFE Master AJ: I looked (briefly) at 27.Re6.
I got as far as move 29, but I missed 30.Rxh5! (Its after one AM here, I may be too tired to analyze properly.) |
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| May-26-06 | | jajaja: whats the purpose of moves like 17.kh2. I see these king moves in nearly every game without understanding why they are played. |
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| May-26-06 | | Tariqov: Saw 27.Ne6 first, but changed to Re6 ..i think it works.My analysis, 1. 27Re6!?Rh6 28.f6+exf6(..Kh7 29Nf5) 29.Nf5+ winning 2. 27Re6!?.. stalling move 28.Rxg6+Kf8 29.Ne6+
3.27.Re6!?Nxe6 28.dxe6Bc6 29.fxg6fxg6 30.Nf5+ winning 4.27.Re6!?Bxe6! 28.dxe6Qc7 (or ..Rh6 29.f6+) 29.exf7Rc8! 30.Qxg6+Kf8 31.f6!exf6 32.Re8+. Sadly, i didn't analysed this much before the puzzle, so even if Re6 was another winning line i didn't solve this puzzle:(.Anyway, during my analyzing, i have to agree that Ne6+ is much more forcing and simpler.But i think Re6 is another winning line.Any refutations?? |
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| May-26-06 | | percyblakeney: I too started with 27. Re6 without bothering to analyse more than a couple of convenient variations, but the move does seem to work. One line (with lots of computer help): 27. Re6 Bxe6 28. dxe6 Reg8 29. Bd5 Nxe6 30. Bxe6 Kf8 31. Rf4 Ke8 32. f6 exf6 33. Bxf7+ Kxf7 34. Qd5+ and white is winning. |
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| May-26-06 | | simsan: <jajaja>: From the game continuation you can see that white was planning to send his Bishop to h6. Without the bishop on the a7-g1 diagonal, it is possible for black to pin the knight against the king on that diagonal with Qb6. This - of course - restricts the movement of the knight and makes it a potential target for attack (it's not too difficult to get a pawn to e5 in order to attack the static knight). At h2 the king is comfortably protected by (and mutually protecting) the king side pawns on g3 and h3. In retrospect 17. Kh2 is thus a sound move. |
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| May-26-06 | | thorndeux: <ganstaman> I think 27.fxg6 might fail to 27...e5 with attack on knight and queen, although Black loses a pawn. It's one of the things we tend to forget: recaptures aren't forced most of the time. <jajaja> Most of the time these king moves are prophylactic moves to prevent nasty checks. For example ♔h1 is often played to prepare the advance of the f-pawn, as f2-f4 opens up the g1-a7 diagonal. |
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| May-26-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Nope, I missed this....My idea was the simple 27.fxg6. I guess after 33...Nxf6 comes 34.f8=Q++, right? 33...Nxf6 34.f8=Q++ Kxf8 35.Qxf6+ Kg8 36.Qg7# |
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| May-26-06 | | arifattar: Wouldn't 28..f6 been better? |
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