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Louis Paulsen / Dr. Carl Goring / Johannes Metger vs Adolf Anderssen / Johannes Zukertort / Dr C. Schmid
"They have the geniuses, we have the nincompoops." (game of the day Feb-19-2024)
Leipzig Consultation (1877), Leipzig GER, Jul-22
English Opening: Agincourt Defense (A13)  ·  0-1

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Kibitzer's Corner
Jun-28-07  Minty: This must be a different Schmid. Lothar M. Schmid wasn't even born until more than 50 years after this game, and apparently, 3 years after Metger died.
May-10-08  Calli: DBC - This is a consultation game. The players are Louis Paulsen, Dr. Carl Goring, Johannes Metger as White and Adolph Anderssen, Johannes Zukertort and Dr C. Schmid playing Black.

Source: BCM reprint of the Leipzig 1877 Tournament Book, game 77.

May-13-08  IntoTheWilderness: It looks like there were a few major blunders here for white...
Jul-05-08  whiteshark: <suggest your correction> Done!
Nov-24-19  cameosis: the schmid in question is carl friedrich schmid:

Carl Friedrich Schmid

Feb-19-24  Messiah: What the schitz is a 'nincompoop'?
Feb-19-24
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  Korora: <Messiah>
A doofus, a wantwit, a moron.
Feb-19-24
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  HeMateMe: From British telly?
Feb-19-24  goodevans: <From British telly?>

The pun is based on a wartime complaint by <Hermann Göring> decrying how superior British technology was turning the tide of the war against the Nazis. So no, not from British telly.

Feb-19-24  goodevans: An interesting tussle at the end. White's pawns around his K were both a prison and a fortress. It wasn't at all clear to me how Black would break through.

In the end Black's lowly g-pawn was critical in cracking open the carapace. Hence White's attempt to liquidate it with <54.Rg6>. If 54...Nxf1 55.Nxf1 Qxf1 56.Rxg5 then there would be no way for Black to get at the White K.

Feb-19-24
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  Honza Cervenka: The game transposes into Symmetrical variation of Tarrasch Defense but whites pleayed unusual 9.c5 instead of common 9.cxd5. 9.c5 leaves the centre to black.
Feb-19-24  Nasruddin Hodja: <Miss Scarlett> They may not have been geniuses, but Paulsen, Goring, and Metger were definitely not nincompoops; each made important contributions to opening theory. Or is there something else in the game title that I'm missing?

<goodevans> There's a direct German translation for nincompoop?

Feb-19-24
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  perfidious: <Nasruddin Hodja....They may not have been geniuses, but Paulsen, Goring, and Metger were definitely not nincompoops; each made important contributions to opening theory....>

Paulsen was an early giant in that field.

Feb-19-24  stone free or die: If not for Morphy, during the period of 1860-1865 Paulsen would have been the best player in the world:

http://www.edochess.ca/top.graphs/g...

Considering how he earned his living, the fact he remained a top competitor for also 25 years is amazing. His peak EDO was ~2670 in about 1864.

Feb-19-24  goodevans: <There's a direct German translation for nincompoop?>

I don't know what word Göring originally used and couldn't track down his outburst in its original language. There are references to it on multiple English speaking websites and all use 'nincompoop' in the quote.

If Göring had used 'dummkopfs' or some other German pejorative then you might expect different translations into English so perhaps 'nincompoops' was actually the word he used.

Feb-19-24  stone free or die: Searching out the quote I was got a lead from the Smithsonian website's attribute ~"from a 1973 book on the Luftwaffe."

Turns out the quote is online - in David Irving's <The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe - The Life of Field Marshal Erhard Milch (1973)>

https://archive.org/stream/IrvingDa...

To be taken with a grain of salt in any case, but I think this is the source Irving got it from:

<27 Milch: Hitler and his Subordinates. Diary, 20 Apr 1944; cf Volkischer
Beobachter, 25 and 26 Apr 1944. Diary, 5
Aug 1947; and interviews with Milch in
May 1968, Vorwald in Jun 1968.>

The phrasing and translation must be Irving's.

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