Vasyl Ivanchuk vs Sergey Karjakin (2008) Speed Racer

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Vasyl Ivanchuk vs Sergey Karjakin
"Speed Racer" (game of the day Mar-20-2008)
Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2008) (rapid), Nice FRA, rd 4, Mar-18
Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Flank Variation (B87) · 1-0

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Given 20 times; par: 87 [what's this?]

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Mar-19-08		Riverbeast: Sergey got Car Jacked! Nice game...Good to see Ivanchuk is revitalizing the Sozin in such beautiful fashion

Mar-19-08		chancho: Which game should be considered the more complex and brilliant one of this event. The Anand game where he sacked the Queen... or this one?

Mar-19-08		slomarko: neither. Moro-Kramnik.

Mar-19-08		percyblakeney: It wasn't easy for Karjakin here, in a rapid game against a novelty Ivanchuk had analysed deeply (I think he was 20 minutes up already before the 20th move). I prefer Anand's win, he was after all black and against Kramnik, but there's no reason not to be very impressed by both games.

Mar-19-08		Shams: it's remarkable to me that in 2008 a new queen sac can be found this early in such a well-worn opening.

Mar-19-08		jon01: this has to be included in Ivanchuk's notable games.

Mar-19-08		percyblakeney: <After <14.Qxe6+ fxe6 15.Nxe6> I would play <15...Qe7 16.Rhe1 Qxe6>> That whole line does look quite OK for black, I tried 16. Nd5 instead and the engines almost overheated trying to find their way through the complications, one line being <15. ... Qe7 16. Nd5 Nxd5 17. Bxe7 Ncxe7 18. Nxc5 O-O-O 19. Rhe1 a5 20. a4 bxa4 21. Bxa4 Ng6 22. Ne6 Rdg8> ending up with this probably rather equal position: click for larger view

Mar-19-08		square dance: has anyone had a closer look at 17...Ke7 instead of ...Kf7? i gave it a brief once over with rybka and fritz 11 and it seemed better, but i havent had the chance to go into it in more detail.

Mar-19-08		percyblakeney: <17...Ke7 instead of ...Kf7?> It looks as if 18. Rhe1 leads to a position where engines start to prefer white the more they look at it. There must be a draw there somewhere but probably hard to find in a rapid game.

Mar-19-08		positionalgenius: This has to be a candidate for game of the year...

Mar-19-08		Aspirador: <if you're talking about this game, that's my point-- this is an unrated rapid/blindfold tournament. When was the last Fischer-Sozin we saw at Linares or Wijk aan Zee?> We are currently not seeing Fischer/Sozins because WHITE is not playing it, not because BLACK is not playing the Najdorf. But if you have a novelty with White you can always play it.

Mar-19-08		hrvyklly: The last Sozin at Linares or Wijk aan Zee? Ivanchuk vs Topalov, 2008

Mar-19-08		get Reti: This is the craziest queen sac I have ever seen, especially in an opening. I'd like to know what exact score engines give it.

Mar-19-08		Shams: <hrvyklly> right you are. I stand corrected.

Mar-19-08		hrvyklly: Ivanchuk also played a Sozin at the Olympiad Ivanchuk vs Navara, 2004 but <shams> your point is still valid(ish) - it's not the most fashionable of openings, let's be honest.

Mar-19-08		Shams: I'll totally settle for <"valid(ish)">. that's more than most of my points warrant. :)

Mar-19-08		Aspirador: <Shams> I guess Ivanchuk was just too tempted to play his novelty and couldn't resist when he had the opportunity. Even though it was just a rapid game.

Mar-19-08		hrvyklly: <Aspirador> I know, imagine if he uncorked that in Linares? Phew, now that would've brought the house down.

Mar-19-08		whiteshark: <percyblakeney: <15. ... Qe7 16. Nd5 Nxd5 17. Bxe7 Ncxe7 18. Nxc5 O-O-O 19. Rhe1 a5 20. a4 bxa4 21. Bxa4 Ng6 22. Ne6 Rdg8> ending up with this probably rather equal position> Following your line I came to the same conclusion!

Mar-19-08		cionics: Sweet game by Ivanchuk! Now this is fun chess.

Mar-20-08		Udit Narayan: All those pawns would give me a nightmare if I were handling the black pieces...

Mar-20-08		whatthefat: <kellmano: What an amazing game!! First - this should surely be GOTD. Second - I wonder what wll the people who say "Rapid chess is an offence to chess" would like to say about it.> Without question it's a beautiful game, but to me it seems likely that the 'catalyst' for it (14.Qxe6+) was home preparation, and therefore independent of the time control. The simplified position that arose by the 26th move was then a relatively easy one to play with little time. So I would say that high quality rapid games are not impossible, but they require a very specific set of circumstances to occur - namely that no excessively time-demanding positions arise.

Mar-20-08		kingsindian2006: long live rapid chess.. chess has beauty in every time control...

Mar-20-08		whatthefat: Even 1 second?

Mar-20-08		MostlyAverageJoe: <Shams: it's remarkable to me that in 2008 a new queen sac can be found this early in such a well-worn opening.> Out of curiosity, I plugged the position after 13 moves into some engines (2PV mode with 2 best lines analyzed). Hiarcs 11.2MP identified 14.Qxe6 as the best move after about 15 seconds (12 plies deep). Glaurung 2.0.1 took about 20 seconds. Deep Shredder 11 labored much longer, until I got bored and switched it into 3PV mode with 3 best lines, and then it took about 30 seconds). Fruit 2.3.1 was the slowest and needed 4PV mode to see it. Nevertheless, the fact remains that all engines found the novelty...

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