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| Jul-21-08 | | Ulhumbrus: <Pjalle: notyetagm, yes, Pelletier probably relied too much on his experience letting his guard down and assuming <like many others> that it was a draw. Frankly speaking it doesn't look that bad after the knight exchange, white is one pawn up but doesn't have any obvious winning chances <at first glance>. It's not until 10 or perhaps 15 moves later that it becomes clear how bad blacks position is.> At the cost of repeating what I said in my last message, Black is not only a pawn down , he suffers from a cause of very serious positional disadvantage as well, although this is not obvious. This cause of disadvantage consists of the pawn formation on the Queen side, the black b6 and c5 pawns against White's b3 and a4 pawns. This pawn formation has the result that White's K and B can make use of the square c4 while Black's K and B are obstructed by Black's P on c5. White's King is able to use the point c4 to invade Black's Queen side much more quickly than Black's King can use the square a5 to invade White's half of the board, if it is at all allowed to do so. White's B can use the square c4 to attack Black's King side much more quickly than Black's B can manage to attack White's g3 pawn. |
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| Jul-21-08 | | solskytz: Hello everybody.
A question: what happens if instead of swallowing the h-pawn black plays 56...Kg7? preparing either to go to h6, or to capture back with his king on g6, still defending f5? Of course white can still get a passer if he wants it, but with less pawns on the board (he will have to exchange every other K-side pawn IMO) I really don't see how this should win. hmmm... comments anybody? |
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| Jul-21-08 | | euripides: <sol> I think 56...Kg7 57.hxg6 and if 57...Kxg6 58.g4 or if 57...Kf6 58.g7(or even 58.Bxf5 with the idea 58...Kxf5 59.g7) and in either case White will get at least two kingside passers unless Black moves the bishop. |
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| Jul-21-08 | | Ezzy: <alexmagnus: <Ezzy> Actually 12...d6 was not a novelty (Bareev-Polgar 2007), 18...Nc2 is the first new move here.
> Thanks. I would of thought chessbase massive database would of had that game. |
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| Jul-21-08 | | solskytz: Thx Euripides,
I actually missed the pin on the black f-pawn after 57...Kxg6 58. g4. A killer!! |
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| Jul-21-08 | | notyetagm: Black to play: 56 ... ?
click for larger view56 ... ♔f7-g7?
(VAR) Position after 56 ... ♔f7-g7?
click for larger view<solskytz: Thx Euripides,
I actually missed the pin on the black f-pawn after 57...Kxg6 58. g4. A killer!!> (VAR) Position after 57 h5xg6 ♔g7xg6 58 g3-g4! <pin>
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| Jul-22-08 | | Discerning King: 43. Kf3?? this was were the Draw was LOST Against Carlsen. Very Bad Move.. |
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 | | Viewer Deluxe: Very deep and detailed analyses of this game by GM Cebalo can be found at the tournament site or here http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpB.... |
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| Aug-16-08 | | just a kid: OMG!This is an awesome game by Carlsen.When the ending looked to be drawn Carlsen eeked it out for a win.I am speechless! |
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| Nov-04-08 | | gambitfan: 64 ♗c6 1-0
And now what happens ??
This an endgame ♗ + 4♙ // ♗ + 3♙ with opposite colored ♗ Such endgames are generally drawish...
How will the win be rached in this game ? Let's see... |
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| Nov-04-08 | | gambitfan: 64 ♗c6 1-0
click for larger view64... ♔g6 65 ♗e8 ♔h6 66 f5... |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: GTM + 119 / PAR VIDE
une partie compliquée !! |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: C'est ma première partie longue avec finale ♗ + ♙♙♙♙ // ♗ + ♙♙♙ |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: GTM 150 / j'ai l'impression que cette partie se termine par un intéressant zugzwang |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: GTM 170 par 146 GOOD |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: 64 ♗c6 1-0 ?????
important fact : white ♗c6 controls the queening square of black ♙h5 64... ♗e1 65 ♔xb6 ♗xg3 66 a5 h4 67 a6 h3 68 a7 h2 69 a8♕ h1♕ 70 ♗xh1! 1-0 
click for larger view70 ♗xh1 1-0 |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: 46... f5?
£ A poor move (?)
¥ This is against the well known rule in such endgames which says that the weaker side should put his pawns on the colour of his bishop, while the stronger side should put his pawns on the colour of opponents bishop. |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: Black is losing the h pawn and the game.
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpB... |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: 64 ♗c6 ♔g6 65 ♗e8 ♔h6 66 f5 ♔g5 67 ♗g6 and now what happens ? I do not see clearly how White manage to push their pawns f and g... Help !
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| Nov-05-08 | | Eyal: <46... f5?
A poor move (?) This is against the well known rule in such endgames which says that the weaker side should put his pawns on the colour of his bishop, while the stronger side should put his pawns on the colour of opponents bishop.> Black doesn't have any better option at this stage, however, since otherwise the white king penetrates via e4. The real mistake was probably to give up a pawn in the knight exchange a few moves earlier and go into the opposite color bishops endgame; Pelletier apparently sort of assumed, superficially, that it's an "automatic" draw... there's quite a lot of analysis posted on pp.9-12 here to demonstrate this. <gambitfan: 64.Bc6 Kg6 65.Be8+ Kh6 66.f5 Kg5 67.Bg6 and now what happens ? I do not see clearly how White manage to push their pawns f and g...Help!>
White doesn't play 66.f5(?) but rather Kc6/Ka6/Bf7, which leads Black into zugzwang. |
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| Nov-05-08 | | gambitfan: gtm 160 par 149 4 times |
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| Nov-06-08 | | gambitfan: 66 f5?? is an obvious mistake !
ZUGZWANG is the key word of this endgame...
Instead : 66 ♗f7 ♔g7 67 ♗xh5! 1-0 |
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| Nov-09-08 | | gambitfan: gtm 168/153/5 AVERAGE !
7/11/2008 |
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| Nov-09-08 | | gambitfan: This is a Bishop Hetero Endgame ; the keyword of this endgame is ZUGZWANG 64 ♗c6 1-0 ????????
click for larger viewBlack to play
68... ?
68... ♔g6 69 ♗e8+ ♔h6 70 ♗f7! ...
black ♔ cannot move without leaving ♙h5 unprotected... 70... ♔g7 71 ♗xh6 ♔h6 72 g4 ...
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| Nov-09-08 | | gambitfan: 68... Kg6 69 Be8+ Kh6 70 Bf7...
click for larger viewWhat if 70... ♗e1!?
71 ♔xb6 ♗xg3 72 ♗xh6 ♔x♗h6 73 a5! ...
white sacrificed their ♗ to get rid of the newly made passed ♙h5 after having created a passed ♙ on their own with ♔xb6 73... ♗xf4 74 a6 ♗b8 75 ♔b7 1-0
white ♔ expels black ♗b8 to allow his faithful ♙a6 to queen ! |
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