Mar-11-21
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| Mar-11-21 | | Nosnibor: Lastin first out. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | goodevans: Black panicked with <19...g6> but given White's pressure I'd have probably done the same. Quite what the motivation behind <22...Qa5> was I doubt I'll ever know. Nice pun and a nice game by White.
<Nosnibor> That would be truly excellent for a Lastin loss as black. Maybe something like Zhong Zhang vs A Lastin, 2001 |
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| Apr-26-21 | | Ironmanth: Slash! Thanks for this game, chessgames. Y'all stay safe out there this week, this Summer. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | Brenin: <goodevans>: Yes, 19 ... g6 is asking for trouble; 19 ... c5 and 20 ... c4 might have distracted White from his K-side ambitions. The weird 22 ... Qa5 looks like a royal divorce unfolding, but I find it hard to see a reasonable alternative. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | ajile: The exchange Philidor always seemed sketchy to me. IMO the Hanham variations maintaining the e5 pawn and forcing ..b5 after ..c6,..a6, b6, ..Bb7 are more in line with the spirit of the opening. As usual the danger of these systems is always White posting a Knight on f5. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | Messiah: This pun is very bad. |
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Apr-26-21
 | | OhioChessFan: Pretty good pun. Lastin has a very punnable name. I occasionally try a Philidor for variety's sake, but it's too easy to get overwhelmed like this. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | RandomVisitor: 16...Qh4 is a good way for black to 'last' longer 'in' the game:
click for larger view Stockfish_21042412_x64_modern:
<69/91 2:42:09 -0.00 16...Qh4 17.Nf3 Qd8> 18.Qd3 Nxf4 19.Qe4 g5 20.Bxf7+ Kxf7 21.g3 Bg7 22.gxf4 Kg8 23.fxg5 hxg5 24.Rg1 d5 25.Qg6 Re6 26.Qxg5 Qxg5 |
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| Apr-26-21 | | newzild: White's initiative almost played itself after Black missed 16. e5, exploiting the weakness of f7. <goodevans>, <Brenin>: One idea of 22...Qa5 was to defend against the threatened sacrifice on d5. |
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| Oct-07-23 | | Brenin: This looked vaguely familiar, and yes, it was a GOTD two years ago. 21 Rxf8+ Rxf8 22 Qxh6 looks worth a try, but I don't see a forced win, just a very uncomfortable position for Black. |
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Oct-07-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already known. Looks like the kind of "sacrifice first, figure out what a mess you made later" sac I sometimes played. Lastin (in name, "firstin" in victory) probably saw the entire line. |
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| Oct-07-23 | | mel gibson: I thought to put the Queen on a safe square.
Stockfish 16 agrees:
21. Qd1
(21. Qd1 (Qh5-d1 Bd7-f5 Nd4xf5 g6xf5 Rf1xf5 Bf8-g7 Qd1-g4
Kg8-h7 e5-e6 Nh8-g6 Bb3xd5 c6xd5 Nc3xd5 a7-) +3.24/40 94) score for White +3.24 depth 40.
If I force SF to follow the game ply:
21. Rxf8+ Rxf8
(21. .. Rxf8 (Re8xf8 Qh5xh6 Bd7-f5 e5-e6 Qd8-f6 Qh6-e3
Rf8-e8 Bb3xd5 Ra8-d8 Nd4xf5 g6xf5 Bd5-b3 Kg8-g7 Nc3-e2 Nh8-g6 Re1-f1 Re8-h8
Qe3xa7 Qf6-e5 Qa7xb7+ Kg7-h6 Ne2-g1 Rd8-d6 )
-2.89/41 205)
score for Black -2.89 depth 41. |
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Oct-07-23
 | | chrisowen: I'd its wu c its hey its halt Qd1 fog Rxf8+ arrive oi aci mits affable its of its coff abe leeway its dub choose ie abc claw its Rxf8+ gab Qd1 bubble v |
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Oct-07-23
 | | scormus: To me 21 Rxc8+ followed by Qxh6 looked obvious, but largely because it was a puzzle. I'm sure it's what I would have played in a bar game, though possibly not in a team match. Even so W asks all the questions and looks to have plenty of pressure. According to SF 14, 21 Qd1 gives ca. +5 to W, and Qxh6 ca. +4, so the text is definitely playable.
In the game, 22 ... Qa5 looks wrong, since it no longer covers the h4-d8 diagonal, but understandable in view of the threats on d5. In any case, I think B's goose was already cooked by then. |
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| Oct-07-23 | | Allderdice83: <Quite what the motivation behind <22...Qa5> was I doubt I'll ever know.> I think it's a clever way of stopping a potential sacrifice on d5. An alternative might be 22...Qb6 23. Nxd5 cxd5 24. Bxd5+ Nf7 25. Re4, and I don't see a successful defense, eg., Rfe8 26. Bxf7+ Kxf7 27. Qh7+ Kf8 28. Rf4+ Bf5 29. Nxf5 Rxe5 30. Nd6+ Rf5 31. Nxf5. Admittedly, I didn't see 22 ... Qa5, and when I scrolled through that move, I was thinking 23. Nb5 as a deflection/interference tactic, i.e., 23 ... cxb5 24. Bxd5+. Black doesn't have to take on b5, but I think this line leads to a won endgame, eg. 23. Ndb5 Be6 24. Re4 dxe4 25. Bxe6+ Nf7 26. Qxg6+ Kh8 27. Bxf7 Rxf7 (or 28. Qh6#) 28. Qxf7 e3 29. Nc7 e2 30. Nxe2 Qe1+ 31. Ng1 Qxe5 32. Nxa8 or 29 ... Rc8 30. Qh5+ Kg8 31. Ne6 Rc7 (White threatens 32. Qg6+ Kh8 33. Qg7#) 32. Qg6+ Kh8 33. Nxc7 winning. |
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| Oct-07-23 | | Allderdice83: After 23 ... Qc7, I'm not wild about 24. Bxd5+. 24. Rh4 seems much more straightforward, threatening both 25. Qh7# and 25. Qxh8+. Any defense to 25. Qh7# except 24 ... Kf7 actually makes 25. Qxh8+ stronger, eg. 24 ... Rf7?? Qxh8#
24 ... Be8? 25. Qxh8+ Kf7 26. Rh7#
24 ... Bc8 25. Qxh8+ Kf7 26. Rh7+ Ke8 27. Qxf8+ Kxf8 28. Rxc7 winning 24 ... Kf7 25. Rf4+ Bf5 26. Nxf5 Kg8 27. Nxd5 cxd5 28. Bxd5+ Rf7 (or 28 ... Nf7 29. Qxg6+ Kh8 30. Rh4+) 29. Bxf7+ Nxf7 30. Qxg6+ Kf8 31. Qg7+ Ke8 32. Nd6+ Kd8 33. Qf8+ Kd7 34. Rxf7+ Kc6 35. Rxc7+ Kxc7 36. Qxa8 winning |
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| Oct-07-23 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: As the other, I don't see much to do, since 21. Qf3 Be6 seems weak and without a plan. The idea is close the B squares... and pressure the W ones: 21. Rxf8+ Kxf8 22. Qxh6+ Kg8 23. Nxd5 cxd5 24. Bxd5+ Be6 25. Nxe6 (Qxd5 26. Qg7#) Qd7 26. Ng5+ Qxd5 27. Qh7+ Kf8 28. Rf1+ Nf7 29. Rxf7+ Qxf7 30. Qxf7# 25... Rxe6 26. Bxe6+ Nf7 27. Qxg6+ (Kf8 28. Qxf7#) Kh8 28. Qh5+ (Nh6 29. Qxh6#) Kg7 29. Qxf7+ Kh8 30. Re4 and mate is near.
But after 21... Rxf8 22. Qxh6 Bf5 23. e6 Qe7 23. e6 Qe7 24. Bxd5 cxd5 25. Nxd5 Qg7 26. Nxf5 gxf5 I found no way to continue. Maybe, 23. e6 Qe7 24. Bxd5 cxd5 25. Nxd5 Qd6 26. e7 Rfe8 27. c4 and seems that W can have some attack chances. (27... Qa6 28. b3... have to protect c4... ). |
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Kibitzing
sac: 21.Rxf8+