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Hikaru Nakamura vs Vladimir Kramnik
Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), Dortmund GER, rd 4, Jul-25
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Three Knights Variation (E21)  ·  0-1

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Jul-24-11  DrMAL: <tamar> Good point. I have posted that about him needing better prophylaxis myself.
Jul-24-11  Ulhumbrus: <watwinc: <Ulhumbrus> In the position I have, black has a knight and white a DSB - no knight on d4> Better give the complete sequence so that we won't speak about different positions
Jul-24-11  Ulhumbrus: <JamesT Kirk: BRAVO,Ulhumbrus!!> Thank you for the compliment.
Jul-24-11  Ulhumbrus: So a passive White defence proved untenable in the end, then.
Jul-24-11  hedgeh0g: I wouldn't touch Kramnik's Nimzo-Indian with a 10-foot pole.

With either colour.

Jul-24-11
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  Gypsy: I think <acirc> is right in that White seriously misplayed an equal or even a slightly better position. White whole strategic conception seems wrong.

For instance, consider the position after Black move 24.


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Here, after the absolutely natural <25.Be3>, White would be forcing a draw from the position of strength (e.g., 25...Rxc3 26.Bxb6 axb6 27.Rxb6 Rb7 ...).

Jul-24-11  ajile: <tamar: I think Nakamura will be very harsh about his 27 Bd4. There doesn't appear to be an easy way to defend against the Black's pressure on c3 and the Black King march.

He has to curb his desire to keep the game going at all costs.>

25.Rb3 probably wasn't the best. Simply 25.Be3 and the weak c pawn is exchanged for one of Black's q-side pawns.

Jul-24-11  ajile: darn you beat me to it..
Jul-24-11
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  Gypsy: <ajile: darn you beat me to it..> Nice to be in a fine company though; thx for your confirming opinion. :-)
Jul-24-11  DrMAL: <DrMAL: <Ulhumbrus> jinx :-)> 29.Ra3 was the move.

I was very focused here 29.Kf1 produced that pit in the gut. Without any other evidence, I feel this is where Naka became unable to trade off his c-pawn for Kramnik's b-pawn. Maybe someone wanting to delve deeply into this endgame will show this right or wrong, perhaps even from Naka's or another GMs comments.

Jul-24-11  OneArmedScissor: <OneArmedScissor: Naka gonna latch on to kramnik like a florida gator wrastler>

it looks like the gator swallowed the wrastler

Jul-24-11  OneArmedScissor: the puppet tucked its pull
Jul-24-11
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  Check It Out: Looks like Kramnik's preparation and deep strategical understanding trumped Nakamura's incredible tactical calculation. Sorry I missed the denouement.
Jul-24-11  wordfunph: quote of the game..

"Apparently I have resolved that if I cannot win a game of chess, I must do everything within my power to lose instead. Good game plan!"

- GM Hikaru Nakamura

http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

Jul-24-11
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  tamar: <It is one thing to be outplayed, but when your opponent himself states quite clearly that it took a lot to lose the position...> http://twitter.com/#!/GMHikaru
Jul-24-11  watwinc: <Ulhumbrus> Yes, too much happening. I was starting from 23 Ba3 Rd8 24 Bd6 Nc8 25 Rd1
Jul-24-11  Maatalkko: I saw him playing on ICC shortly before the round. He lost a 5 minute game against an untitled player named "Ewizy" and did his usual logging off form of resignation when it was mate in two. Maybe it's not such a good idea to be losing games on ICC to untitled players in the midst of a major tournament.
Jul-24-11  DrMAL: The endgame is not terribly difficult, in short time after playing out alternatives, I verified that 27.Bf4 was also a critical mistake (instead of 27.Bxa7 for a draw). I was emotional about H-bomb and wrong in defending it just after the game.

29.Kf1 the second mistake cost white two tempos over 29.Kf3 but even here the best move was 29.Ra3.

After 29.Ra3 the best continuation is 29...a5 30.Rb3 a4 31.Rb2 32.Kf3 where from here black takes 32...Nxc3 33.Bxc3 Rxc3+ 34.Ke4 a3 35.Rf2 b5 and it is imminent disaster for white:


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For example, 36.f5 exf5+ 37.Kxf5 Re3 no matter what white does a second pawn is soon to be lost. With a few minutes on Houdini this checks out to be free of any crazy human mistakes.

Jul-24-11
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  chancho: According to Chessbase, Kramnik's tournament performance is 3064 after 4 rounds.
Jul-24-11
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  perfidious: Nakamura's conduct of this ending suggests either a misjudgment of his prospects, or more likely, a desire to win from a position where the preconditions did not exist.

The latter is a dangerous tendency at top level, and retribution will be swift and sure, as here.

Is it possible that White believed that bishop vs knight in a semi-open position automatically conferred an advantage, despite his weaknesses? Maybe so.

As noted by <Gypsy>, Naka's best course was likely to bail out with 25.Be3, though this offered no serious winning chances.

In order to succeed at the summit of Mt Olympus, Nakamura will have to display a more objective attitude towards his game, in my opinion.

Jul-25-11  Ladolcevita: Kramnik is simply too strong for all of the rest in Dortmund. By the way,speaking of Kramnik,does anybody know where <Woody Wood Pusher> has gone? I still remember the time he volunteered to help me revise my letter to Nobel Prize commitee when I asked in public who could do me this favour...what a nice guy,even though he keeps talking about drawnik and drawko and so on,but that's kind of fun if we check those drawnik pages and do not take them personally LOL
Jul-25-11  positionalgenius: nakamura picked a very passive defense; Kramnik has punished Leko for this very same thing muliple times. Kramniks on fire.
Jul-25-11  DrMAL: Another of those Nimzo games where white gets putrid pawn structure. Look at those pawns and gaping hole on c4, how did he manage to survive? Kasparov vs Tal, 1987
Jul-25-11  Ulhumbrus: <watwinc: <Ulhumbrus> Yes, too much happening. I was starting from 23 Ba3 Rd8 24 Bd6 Nc8 25 Rd1> Yes, that clears up a misunderstanding. We have indeed been speaking about different positions. I thought that your analysis had begun with 18 Ba3 eg 18... Rd8 19 Bd6.
Jul-26-11  maelith: Nakamura allows an inferior structure to have two bishops in the middle game, I guess Naka mis calculate something, that allowed Krammnik to liquidate in a favorable ending of superior knight(the knight has clear targets) vs a bishop.
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