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May-12-13 | | DcGentle: YES! 32... Ke8 played! |
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May-12-13 | | Tiggler: Karjarkin playing like a murderer in this tournament. |
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May-12-13 | | chessdgc2: Someone play Taps... |
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May-12-13 | | haydn20: Meanwhile in the Carlsen game we had 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. 0-0 a6 5. Bd3 Ne5?! and now Carlsen punished this patzer move with 6. Nxe5 dxe5 7. a4! Nf6 8. b3 Be6 9. Bb2 Bxb3, as expected but then: 10. Qe2?! instead of 10. Be2. Is Carlsen becoming dogmatic about avoiding known lines and unclear complications? |
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May-12-13 | | Ulhumbrus: Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: <32...Ke8 33.e6 (if 33.Qxh7 simply 33...d2 - White has no threats) Rd6! 34.Qxh7 Kd8! and Black is winning.> 34 Qf7+ Kd8 35 Qg8+ Kc7 36 Qf7 proposes a draw by repetition as Black seems unable to defend the bishop on e7> He doesn't have to defend it - White would get mated shortly after 36...dxe2 (37.Qxe7+ Kb8).> Then White may give his queen up, as he has a strong pawn on e6: 38 Qf8+ Rd8 39 Qxd8+ Qxd8 40 Rxe2 Qd1+ 41 Kf1 Qxc1 42 e6-e7. However 42..Bc6 covers the e8 square and Black wins. |
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May-12-13 | | Ulhumbrus: <haydn20: Meanwhile in the Carlsen game we had 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. 0-0 a6 5. Bd3 Ne5?! and now Carlsen punished this patzer move with 6. Nxe5 dxe5 7. a4! Nf6 8. b3 Be6 9. Bb2 Bxb3, as expected but then: 10. Qe2?! instead of 10. Be2. Is Carlsen becoming dogmatic about avoiding known lines and unclear complications?> I thought that it was Carlsen who played eccentrically by 5 Bd3 |
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May-12-13 | | DcGentle: 33. e6 (maybe the best move) will be in vain after 33... Rd6 |
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May-12-13 | | lost in space: After 33. Qxh7 (?) 33...d2!! is wining on the spot |
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May-12-13 | | DcGentle: Aronian has a bad day. |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: Now after 33.Qxh7 "simply" 33...d2 straight away is enough. |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: Meanwhile, Anand seems to be in trouble against Nakamura. |
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May-12-13 | | DcGentle: But it's a very fine game by Karjakin, he can seal the deal now. |
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May-12-13 | | Marmot PFL: White's turn to find an improvement if he wants to play 9 e4 again. |
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May-12-13 | | PinnedPiece: <Eyal: Now after 33.Qxh7 "simply" 33...d2 straight away is enough..> Doesn't black need to worry about ....Qg8+ followed by ...d6? black isn't going to win on the next move..... |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: Aronian's hope is that Karjakin will play 33...dxe2?! and then after
34.Qh5+ g6 35.Qxe2 White can still fight. |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: <PinnedPiece: <Eyal: Now after 33.Qxh7 "simply" 33...d2 straight away is enough..> Doesn't black need to worry about ....Qg8+ followed by ...d6? black isn't going to win on the next move.....> I suppose you mean e6 - 34.Qg8+ Bf8 35.e6 d1Q+ 36.Bf1 Qxf1+ 37.Kxf1 Rd1# |
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May-12-13 | | queenfortwopawns: Goodness. 4/4 is pretty sweet. |
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May-12-13 | | DcGentle: Apparently Carlsen must work a miracle again to reach more than a draw today. Karjakin will cause him a headache now. |
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May-12-13 | | chessdgc2: And I don't recall ever seeing ANYONE winning their first 4 games in a tournament of this caliber |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: Now in case of 35.Qg8+ Bf8 36.e6, Black is safe with 36...Nd6! - 37.e7 Rd1+! (37...Kxe7?? 38.Qe6+ and mate next move) 38.Bf1 Kxe7. |
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May-12-13 | | Ulhumbrus: At the risk of repetition Karjakin has defeated none other than Carlsen with his handling of this type of isolated d pawn, in the game Carlsen vs Karjakin, 2012 |
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May-12-13 | | queenfortwopawns: Ouch. Vishy is playing a terrible game. Not a good day for the champ. |
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May-12-13 | | haydn20: <Ulhumbrus> <I thought that it was Carlsen who played eccentrically by 5 Bd3> I believe 5. B3 is ok in theory. 5...Ne5 is just awful. |
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May-12-13 | | Eyal: <I don't recall ever seeing ANYONE winning their first 4 games in a tournament of this caliber> Ivanchuk won his first 5 games in M-Tel 2008 (M-Tel Masters (2008)/Vassily Ivanchuk) |
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May-12-13 | | chessdgc2: Eval: Thanks, but who all played in that event? |
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