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Magnus Carlsen vs Sergey Karjakin
Tata Steel (2012)  ·  Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation. Main Line (E12)  ·  0-1
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Jan-24-12
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  ajile:


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Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit :

1. (-5.01): 3.Rb5 Re4 4.a5 Ra4 5.g3 Kxg3 6.Rb3+ Kh2 7.Rb2+ Kh3 8.Rb1 Rxa5 9.Kg1 g3 10.Re1 h4 11.Rb1 Ra2

2. (-5.08): 3.Kf2 Rf5+ 4.Ke3 Kxg2 5.Rb2+ Kg3 6.Rb1 Rf3+ 7.Ke4 Rf4+ 8.Ke5 Rxa4 9.Kf6 h4 10.Kg5 Kh2 11.Rb2+ Kh3

3. (-5.12): 3.Rf4 Rc5

4. (-5.12): 3.g3 Rf5+

5. (-5.18): 3.a5 Rxa5

6. (-5.31): 3.Rb2 g3

Jan-24-12
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  lost in space: aha, as expected. magnus lost, or sergey won.

seems, aronjan will make it, or?

Jan-24-12  voyager39: Well done Karjakin. Excellent technique under time pressure.
Jan-24-12  dumbgai: Bravo Sergey.
Jan-24-12
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  cro777: Серёжа молодец!
Jan-24-12
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  whiteshark: <cro777> Catching you here for an off-topic:

Do you have more infos about Leonardo Ljubicic ?

He is #20 in the recent ICCF rating list with an ELO of <2639> and 378 rated corr games.

Thanks in advance! :D

Jan-24-12
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  whiteshark: Karjakin analyses the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoGl...
Jan-24-12
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  brankat: Great game by Karjakin.
Jan-24-12  Fanques Fair: After 19 - ... , d3 ! , it seems White is lost, because 20 - Bxa8 , Qd4 + , 21- Kh1 , d2 , and now if 22 - Bc6 , dxe1+ 23 - Qxe1, Rc8 , followed by Qxf4 , while 22-Rxc5 , dxe1+ , 23- Qxe1 , Qxc5 and the exchange decides in Black's favor...maybe White´s best chance was 20 - Rxc5,Qd4 + , 21- Kh1 , Qxc5 , 22- Bxa8, Rxa8 and the powerful d3 pawn is still alive ... or , in this last line, 22- Qxd3 , Qxd3 23- Bxd3, with a pawn for the exchange.
Jan-24-12  galdur: 17.f4 instead of the natural Nb5 in this position seemed to start white´s troubles, from which he couldn´t recover. Nice win by Karjakin.


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Jan-24-12  Penguincw: Karjakin knows how to use the king in the endgame. Carlsen's king is hiding.
Jan-24-12  tonsillolith: Wow, I didn't know Carlsen sucked so bad.
Jan-24-12
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  tamar: 37 Re4 was a better try. Karjakin said in the interview that he was going to play 37...Nf3+ 38 gxf3 Qd6+ 39 Kg2 Qxd3 but after 40 Qb4 the win is still hard to convert.
Jan-24-12
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  Gypsy: <tamar: 37 Re4 was a better try. Karjakin said in the interview that he was going to play 37...Nf3+ 38 gxf3 Qd6+ 39 Kg2 Qxd3 but after 40 Qb4 the win is still hard to convert.>

Nice variation and interesting position, to boot. Suppose Black continues <40...Rf5>. White can (again) force a trade of Queens, probably with <41.Qd4+> (and not Qc3+), but the rook endgame looks hard to hold. Not only has White a pawn deficit, but his remaining pawns are weaker than those of Black.

Jan-25-12  rilkefan: <<Fanques Fair>: After 19 - ... , d3 ! , it seems White is lost, because 20 - Bxa8 , Qd4 + , 21- Kh1 , d2 , and now if 22 - Bc6 , dxe1+ 23 - Qxe1, Rc8 , followed by Qxf4>

After say 24.Bf3 in your line ...Qxf4 loses to 25.b4. Black can play ...Qxb2 instead, though after 25.e6 white has a bit of activity. Instead 23...Nd3 aiming at f2 and f4 looks strong.

Jan-25-12
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  FSR: Wow, what a crush! Carlsen is the victim of a "karjakin."
Jan-25-12
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  HeMateMe: Nice squeeze. Even the MC can lose.

What happens if MC doesn't play 28. Bxd3? Black just swings the knight over to e4, forcing a trade for the Bishop, then maybe Q-e4-e2, swapping Queens and bringing the passed pawn to the 2nd rank?

Jan-25-12  solskytz: I'm sure Karjakin feels great right now - much like Reti in New York 1924
Jan-25-12
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  brankat: <solskytz> <I'm sure Karjakin feels great right now - much like Reti in New York 1924>

Carlsen did lose a few games in last ten years though :-)

Jan-25-12  SChesshevsky: <<galdur: 17.f4 instead of the natural Nb5 in this position seemed to start white´s troubles, from which he couldn´t recover. Nice win by Karjakin.>>

I agree. It looks like 17.f4 was a loose move. I wonder if he played it quickly?

I'm guessing White was expecting 19...Nxe4 as 19...d3 was a pretty brutal interpolation.

Jan-25-12
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  Bobby Fiske:

GM PUZZLE
Black to play. Forced win in 43 moves:


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Jan-25-12  ikipemiko: <HeMateMe: ...What happens if MC doesn't play 28. Bxd3? > His bishop is hanging, also Ne4 is really powerful - attack to the king (via f2), attacking the queen, attacking the rook on c3... a lot of winning ways. B:d3 seems only move but Carlsen is maybe dead lost at that point.
Jan-25-12
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  tamar: "Gypsy: <tamar: 37 Re4 was a better try. Karjakin said in the interview that he was going to play 37...Nf3+ 38 gxf3 Qd6+ 39 Kg2 Qxd3 but after 40 Qb4 the win is still hard to convert.>

Nice variation and interesting position, to boot. Suppose Black continues <40...Rf5>. White can (again) force a trade of Queens, probably with <41.Qd4+> (and not Qc3+), but the rook endgame looks hard to hold. Not only has White a pawn deficit, but his remaining pawns are weaker than those of Black."

Hard to hold the rook ending, but at least there is hope. For example after 41 Qd4+ Qxd4 42 Rxd4 Rc5 45 b3 axb3 46 Kg3 Kf6 47 Rb4 Ke5 48 Rxb3 Kd4 49 Rb4+ Kc3 the following position arises where I would not know how to win as Black.


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May-05-12  Sigmapt: very good game GG!
Dec-17-12  iking: <tonsillolith: Wow, I didn't know Carlsen sucked so bad.>

he is not invincible .... but he is the reigning ELO topnotcher right now, above all the pampered goldfish in the aquarium.

Carlsen is the best!!!

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