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Sergey Karjakin vs Veselin Topalov
Sberbank GM Rapid (2013) (rapid), Kiev UKR, rd 4, Jun-06
French Defense: Steinitz. Boleslavsky Variation (C11)  ·  1-0

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Jun-06-13
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  paavoh: Another French toast... too bad. I guess this opening is not Topalov's forte.
Jun-06-13  beenthere240: 10....d4 looks pretty stinky with the king still unsafe. He may have thought Karjakin had blundered a piece, but opening up e4 and permitting Nd6 wasn't wise. The French is usually a strong point game.
Jun-07-13  Jamboree: The gruesome but entertaining tactics Topalov resigned rather than face over the board were:

22. Qb4+ Ke8
23. Nd6+ Kf8
24. Nf5+!!

...and every line leads to mate or queen loss or both:

24. ... Bc5
25. Qxc5! Nxc5
26. Rxd8+

or

24. ... Nc5
25. Qxc5! Bxc5
26. Rxd8+

or

24. ... Ke8
25. Qe7 mate

or

24. ...Kg8
25. Ne7+ Kh8
26. Ng6+ and white is not only a queen up but the attack continues at full steam with mate or massive additional material loss on the immediate horizon.

Back at move 22. if black interposes something at c5, white just takes 23. Nxc5 and black will lose massive material and probably get mated too.

Topalov, once feared worldwide, world champion, highest rated (aside from Kasparov) -- demolished in 22 moves?!?!?!? Never thought I'd see the day.

Jun-07-13  Jamboree: Typo note: In the lines above, 26. Rxd8 is mate in both cases; and 26. Ng6+ should be Nxg6+.
Jun-07-13  badest: <Jamboree: Topalov, once feared worldwide, world champion, highest rated (aside from Kasparov) -- demolished in 22 moves?!?!?!? Never thought I'd see the day.> Well, it is rapid, after all :)
Jun-07-13  MoonlitKnight: 10...d4? walks right into a well-known opening trap. Very surprising to see Topalov fall for this, even in a rapid game.
Jun-07-13  Conrad93: <22. Qb4+ Ke8
23. Nd6+ Kf8
24. Nf5+!!

...and every line leads to mate or queen loss or both:

24. ... Bc5
25. Qxc5! Nxc5
26. Rxd8+

or

24. ... Nc5
25. Qxc5! Bxc5
26. Rxd8+

or

24. ... Ke8
25. Qe7 mate

or

24. ...Kg8
25. Ne7+ Kh8
26. Ng6+ and white is not only a queen up but the attack continues at full steam with mate or massive additional material loss on the immediate horizon.

Back at move 22. if black interposes something at c5, white just takes 23. Nxc5 and black will lose massive material and probably get mated too.

Topalov, once feared worldwide, world champion, highest rated (aside from Kasparov) -- demolished in 22 moves?!?!?!? Never thought I'd see the day.>

You have got to be kidding...

22. Qb4 Bc5 (black's best move)

23. Rxd7!! (strongest move) and all lines lead to mate.

Your lines are much slower.

Jun-07-13  parmetd: Judit Polgar vs Topalov, 2007

not only that, Topalov has lost 8 other high level games in 22 moves or less.

besides, he was never world champion. He was FIDE world champion but then so was rustam kasim, ponomariov, khalifman.

Jun-07-13  FairyPromotion: <parmetd: besides, he was never world champion. He was FIDE world champion but then so were Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik.>

fixed

Seriously this "Topalov is just another FIDE Champion" BS needs to stop. Unlike Khalifman, Ponomariov, Kasimdzhanov, and of course Anand (a name that constantly gets left out, because he doesn't fit the agenda), Topalov won his "FIDE" title strictly on classical games, and that by playing one of the most dominant tournament performances in the history of the game. And both Kramnik and Kasparov were invited to St. Luis, so it's not his fault that they didn't play. His title was no different than the one Botvinnik won in 1948, or the one Anand won in 2007.

I'm glad he ended up losing the match against Kramnik, as he (or better say Danailov) showed very poor sportsmanship, but this does not erase the fact that he is one of the greatest players to play the game, or that St. Luis 05 was a legit tournament to determine the World Chess Champion.

Jun-07-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: No comparison whatever between Topalov/Anand and those others named in the post by <FP> and no amount of obfuscation will change that, either.

While I would not class Anand or Topalov in the pantheon occupied by such champions as Karpov, Kasparov or Lasker for sheer longevity and dominance, as well as Fischer at his peak, they have both had brilliant careers.

Jun-08-13  parmetd: No one is saying that Topalov hasn't had a brilliant career (after all to LOSE TWO worldchampionship matches speaks to that matter itself). Just that Topalov is not anymore a world champion than is Khalifman, Ponomariov or Rustam.
Jun-08-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Big Pawn: Topalov is a great chess player. I considered him and Shirov to be a breath of fresh air in the late 1990's. Back then almost all the GM's were doing these boring GM draws all the time. Suddenly, Topalov and Shirov appeared on the scene and were playing crazy openings like the Modern Benoni and such. And, they both played with fire - sacrificing, taking chances. Then Morozevich came along and performed along similar lines. Of course this style of play invites erratic performances.

For a while there in the mid 2000's I thought Topa just might be shaping up to be the next world champion but it was not to be. There was too much drama surrounding the Topa/Anand championship for either player to really play their best I think.

Jun-09-13  Just Another Master: <parmetd: Judit Polgar vs Topalov, 2007

not only that, Topalov has lost 8 other high level games in 22 moves or less.

besides, he was never world champion. He was FIDE world champion but then so was rustam kasim, ponomariov, khalifman.>

thanks for the knowledge, peace

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