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| Apr-25-14 | | asiduodiego: Also, let's not forget that in this game, Radjabov was in time trouble during the last 20 moves, and yet, he was able to mantain the calm, and he found his way out of the traps Magnus tried to force upon him. Great resilience showed by Teimour, an excellent performance. |
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| Apr-25-14 | | KingG: <Garry famously said that Radjabov "never learned how to play simple positions", so he would likely say that Teymour's loyalty to the King's Indian has had as much to do with necessity as anything else (Radjabov having to drag his opponents into the swamp to beat them). But arguably that only makes him even a bigger hero of the opening-- he had no choice but to put all his faith in it, and it paid off for him many times over. Neither he nor this great defense would be where they are at today without the other.> Perhaps that is part of the reason Radjabov started playing the Queen's Gambit Declined in 2011, in order to expand his repertoire of positions he can play. He certainly had decent success with it, in being able to draw 3 times against such a specialist as Kramnik in their candidates match. |
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| Apr-25-14 | | john barleycorn: <KingG> Kasparov may not be totally unbiased (though he usually is :-)) Kasparov vs Radjabov, 2003 |
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| Apr-25-14 | | bobthebob: "Also, let's not forget that in this game, Radjabov was in time trouble during the last 20 moves" Absolutely. Great point.
I thought a time-pressure mistake by Radjabov would lead to a draw or a loss. These situations always make me wonder if they really used all that time (of the last 5-6 moves) to plot a way to get to the time control in a solid position. |
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| Apr-25-14 | | bobthebob: <john barleycorn> I wasn't aware of that Kasparov issue. Thanks for the education... Okay, so can we give Radjabov a brilliancy prize for this game to make up for the last one he got? |
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| Apr-25-14 | | Shams: <bobthebob> No, we deny him a brilliancy prize this time to even the score. |
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| Apr-25-14 | | fisayo123: Teimour is always in time trouble when he plays the KID. He thrives in chaos. |
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| Apr-25-14 | | DcGentle: Well, I was curious whether White would have winning chances after <12. f3>, the move recommended by Carlsen after the game. I found the following mainline. Both sides can play differently, but there are winning chances for White indeed. ______________________________________
[Event "Gashimov Memorial, line not played."]
[Site "1:06:33-0:15:33"]
[Date "2014.04.24"]
[Round "5"]
[White "M Carlsen"]
[Black "Radjabov"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "E70"]
[Annotator "Gentle,DC"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r1b1qrk1/1pp2pb1/3p1np1/p1nPp1Bp/2P1P2P/2N3N1/PP1QBPP1/R3K2R w KQ - 0 12"] 12. f3 {<Carlsen played 12. 0-0-0, but recommended 12. f3 later.>} Bd7 13. b3 Nh7 (13... a4 14. b4 {<is good for White.>}) 14. Be3 {<White needs this bishop yet.>} f5 {<is the thematic pawn push.>} 15. Bf2 f4 16. Nf1 {<Now White might look a bit cramped, but the long term strategical aim is the break-through on the kingside.>} Qe7 17. O-O-O Nf6 18. Kb1 Kh7 19. Qc2 b6 {<The position looks balanced, but White has the better prospects.>} 20. Nd2 Rfc8 21. Rdg1 {<already threatening 22. g4.>} Bh6 22. g3 fxg3 23. Rxg3 {<Now Black's kingside pawns have become targets.>} Bf4 24. Rg2 Na6 25. a3 Nc5 26. Nf1 Qf7 27. a4 Rab8 28. Kb2 Rf8 {<It's not easy for Black to find a plan.>} 29. Nb5 Rbc8 30. Ne3 {<This knight is heading to h3.>} Qe7 31. Qc3 Rg8 32. Nd1 Na6 33. Be3 Bxe3 34. Qxe3 {<Now the first defender of Black's kingside is gone.>} Nc5 35. Nf2 Qg7 36. Rg5 Bxb5 {<White's knight was annoying, but now the diagonal c8 - h3 will be occupied by White.>} 37. cxb5 Rcf8 38. Rhg1 Qh6 39. Qc3 Kh8 40. Nh3 Nh7 41. R5g3 Rf6 42. Bd1 Qg7 43. Bc2 Re8 44. Ka2 Ref8 45. Qd2 Nd7 46. Rf1 Kg8 47. Qe3 Kh8 48. Bb1 R6f7 49. Qc1 {<forcing knight d7 back to c5.>} Nc5 50. f4 Qf6 (50... exf4 {<will lose due to>} 51. Nxf4) 51. Ng5 Rg7 52. Rgf3 Nxg5 53. hxg5 Qd8 54. f5 {<This pawn will be a passer!>} Kg8 55. Rg3 Rh7 56. Qe3 Qe8 57. Rgf3 Rg7 58. R3f2 Qd8 59. Rg1 Rh7 60. Ka3 Qe8 61. Bc2 Kg7 62. Rgf1 Rhh8 63. Bd1 Qf7 64. Ka2 Qe8 65. f6+ Kh7 66. Rh1 Kg8 67. Rfh2 Qd7 68. Bf3 Rf7 69. Qe2 Rfh7 70. Bg2 Kf7 71. Bh3 Qe8 72. Qc4 Kf8 73. Be6 Qd8 74. Rf1 Qa8 75. Rh4 Ke8 76. Qe2 Kf8 77. Qh2 Qe8 78. Qh3 {<The break-through is not easy, or is it? Black seems to have everything under control.>} Qd8 79. Bc8 Nd7 80. Bb7 Nc5 81. Bc6 Rf7 { 
click for larger view White to move. <And now? The bishop on c6 has not improved things apparently.>} 82. Qe6 {<! This queen sac will do it!>} Nxe6 (82... Rhh7 {<Black can decline the sac, but White has something else as well.>} 83. b4 axb4 84. Qh3 Kg8 85. Rb1 b3+ 86. Ka3 Qb8 87. Rc1 Rf8 88. a5 bxa5 89. Rxc5 dxc5 90. Qe6+ Rhf7 91. Qxe5 Qb6 92. Kxb3 c4+ 93. Kxc4 Qf2 94. Rh2 {<and White has good winning chances, because Black has no perpetual check.>}) 83. dxe6 Rfh7 84. Bd5 Qe8 85. Ka3 c6 86. e7+ Rxe7 87. fxe7+ Kxe7 88. bxc6 Rf8 89. Rc1 Qc8 90. c7 Kd7 91. Rhh1 Rf3 92. Rhf1 Rxf1 93. Rxf1 Qxc7 94. Rf7+ {<Black will lose the queen and the game.>} * ______________________________________
You can copy & paste the above text into a PGN viewer like http://chesstempo.com/pgn-viewer-be... Ģ |
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Apr-26-14
 | | HeMateMe: Has Kasparov played the KID against Karpov in WC matches, or in any of his Candidates matches, in the 1980s? Perhaps it is unsound, at the very highest level of chess. As some players have said, "Black gets a fighting game, but spot's white the endgame." |
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Apr-26-14
 | | perfidious: <HMM> Here is a list of all K-K encounters featuring the KID: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Apr-26-14 | | Nerwal: <Has Kasparov played the KID against Karpov in WC matches, or in any of his Candidates matches, in the 1980s? > He played it once in Seville, and several times in the 1990 match. There he lost twice, but the first defeat was caused by a terrible blunder, and the second one was a weakly played game by black after the title had already been saved. Still Karpov's ability to neutralize the King's Indian and the Grünfeld in those matches was just amazing. He was rarely in any danger and often found (well, his team) systems where black had to stay quite passive. |
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Apr-26-14
| | perfidious: <Nerwal: There (Kasparov) lost twice, but the first defeat was caused by a terrible blunder, and the second one was a weakly played game by black after the title had already been saved.> A terrible blunder--as opposed to a good one?
Didn't know Kasparov 'saved' the title, a description appropriate to what went in Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987), not 1990, where he was up two games with two to play. One feature of the 1990 match is that Black did not win a single game. |
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| Apr-30-14 | | 1d410: I doubt Kasparov had a better KID than Radjabov here. If Radjabov can beat Carlsen with it, then it's great. |
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| May-07-14 | | AlexandraThess: Always a pleasure to see Carlson being spanked. Worst world champion in the history. |
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May-07-14
| | perfidious: <AlexandraThess: Always a pleasure to see Carlson being spanked.....> Yeah, we know you get off on that sort of thing.
<....Worst world champion in the history.> Yawn..... |
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| Jan-20-15 | | Conrad93: 5. Nge2?
Carlsen only lost this because he got cocky. |
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| Jan-23-15 | | jrofrano: This game was the 8th best game from 2014: http://lifezugzwang.com/10-games-fr... |
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| Apr-03-16 | | Imran Iskandar: Wow, Carlsen just got absolutely destroyed! |
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| Mar-30-19 | | YesChess1010: Word up clever playin |
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| Jul-25-20 | | issakhalid: ah yes,the good old days when it was humanly possible to beat magnus in a classical game . great game by radjabov ,showing once again why the bayonet is the best test of the KID |
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Dec-15-21
 | | fredthebear: A repeat comment of historical interest...
<Apr-24-14 keypusher: <Nicocobas: <all> Carlsen is often compared to Capablanca. I searched Google without success trying to find if Capablanca ever lost two games in a row in a tournament. Does anyone know?>
St. Petersburg 1914 (Lasker and Tarrasch). I think that's it. Lasker is even more impressive to me. It happened to him at Hastings 1895 (Tarrasch and Blackburne) and then not again until Moscow 1936, when he was 67 years old.> Apparently, Capablanca and Lasker were rarely "out of form." |
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Dec-18-21
| | perfidious: One cypher cheers on another, seven years after the fact. |
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Aug-10-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Can't deny that Carlsen's Exchange sacrifice would have tempted me as well; after 26.Ng3 seems to have enough compensation. Always a weakness of mine, falling for pretty variations that proved not quite sound. |
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Aug-10-22
| | HeMateMe: Apparently, MC thought the exchange sac would work because black's queenside Rook looked passive, difficult to get into play? |
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| Aug-10-22 | | goodevans: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Can't deny that Carlsen's Exchange sacrifice would have tempted me as well...> <HeMateMe: Apparently, MC thought the exchange sac would work because black's queenside Rook looked passive, difficult to get into play?> This may have been said before (ten pages of kibitzing is a bit too much to wade through) but I have a different take on the exchange sac. I see it as mandatory to stop White getting squished pretty quickly. 
click for larger viewThe immediate threat is 24...Bxe2 25.Qxe2 exf4. If White defends with 24.Rf1 then 24...exf4 leaves White an unenviable choice with which to recapture (none is good, e.g. 25.Nxf4 allows the g7 bishop free rein). The only other reasonable alternative I can see is 24.f5 but then 24...Rxf5 pretty much forces 25.Rxg4, transposing to the game. |
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