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Sep-22-14 | | watwinc: First!? |
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Sep-22-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Something different at h8 -- sac the rook to win the queen. First! |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Phony Benoni: I've been solving too many Monday puzzles. My first instinct was to play 21.Qxf6 and then 22.Rh8+. |
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Sep-22-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Well, it would be nice to type SOME kind of description of the solution if you want to claim "First". :) |
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Sep-22-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Black should have developed his bishop before his rook. |
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Sep-22-14 | | lost in space: I love Mondays!
21. Rxh8+ Kxh8 22. Nxf7+ and the queen is gone
Hope not last? |
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Sep-22-14 | | plumbst: Very Easy. White is down a bishop for a pawn.
A classic tactic.
21.Rh8+!
21...Kxh8 22.Nxf7+ wins the queen. |
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Sep-22-14 | | agb2002: White has a pawn for a bishop.
White would win the black queen with a knight fork if the black king were on h8. Hence, 21.Rh8+ Kxh8 22.Nxf7+ Kg8 23.Nxd6 Bd5 (23... Nh5 24.Qf7+ Kh7(8) 25.Qxh5+, etc.) 24.c4 + - [Q+2P vs R+B]. |
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Sep-22-14 | | estrick: Hmm, White ends up a queen & 2 pawns for a rook & a bishop. I thought there might be something more, but I guess that's all there is. No checkmate on this Monday. |
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Sep-22-14 | | lostgalaxy: A knight fork is always a beauty. |
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Sep-22-14 | | Once: Eleventh! |
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Sep-22-14 | | abuzic: The original theme: 19. ♗xh7+;
leaving it there would have raised the choice between 19. ♗xh7+ and 19. ♖g3. Of course fans like sacs so...Reaching today's 21.?, white a ♗ down for a ♙, trades his ♖ for black's ♕ and ♙ with 21.Rxh8+ Kxh8 22.Nxf7+, and the ♘ will be well protected on d6. |
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Sep-22-14 | | Santa Claus 77: My thought was 21. Ng6, which would win the Q without giving up the R, bc if black does not take (21... fxg6) than 22. Rh8#. If black takes the N, the Q is gone... am I missing something? |
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Sep-22-14 | | Once: <Santa Claus 77> Nice idea, but sadly the black queen is protected by the rook on d8. So 21. Ng6 fxg6 22. Qxd6 Rxd6 click for larger viewBlack is two pieces up. |
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Sep-22-14 | | morfishine: <21.Rh8+> followed by the Queen fork <22.Nxf7+> and White wins <Santa Claus 77> I think you have the position set up wrong. Black Queen is protected by the rook on <d8> ***** |
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Sep-22-14 | | nottogoodabeginner: what's the big deal about being first? There's a verse in the Bible that says the last shall be first and the first last. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Sally Simpson: Funny how a wee puzzle like this triggers all kinds of memories from things written or read. The Yates Hastings Trick:
He played the same idea as White at Hastings in 1923.  click for larger viewYates vs G Norman, 1923
....and walked into the same trick as Black at Hastings in 1927.  click for larger viewColle vs Yates, 1927 |
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Sep-22-14 | | Nick46: difficult for a Monday but I gor it |
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Sep-22-14 | | zb2cr: 21. Rh8+, Kxh8; 22. Nxf7+, Kg8; 23. Nxd6 and White has Q+2P vs. R+B. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Willber G: Second! |
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Sep-22-14 | | Monocle: <nottogoodabeginner> Most forums I've been on outright ban people from making inane "First" posts, because it's just irritating and pointless spam. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Sally Simpson: ...and they are wrong.
Igor Nikolayev was first! |
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Sep-22-14 | | Once: There is perhaps a little more to this than winning the black queen. Here is the position after 21...Kxh8 22. Nxf7+ Kg8 23. Nxd6 click for larger viewYes white has won the black queen, but he has had to spend a bishop and a rook doing so. And in general terms a bishop and rook are more or less the same as a queen. More importantly, white has snaffled a couple of pawns during the exchange. The h7 pawn via the original bishop sac (19. Bxh7+) and the f7 pawn (22. Nxf7+). It is arguably those pawns that give white the win more than the trade of R+B for the black queen. That and the weakened black pawns left alive. |
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Sep-22-14 | | goodevans: <nottogoodabeginner: ... There's a verse in the Bible that says the last shall be first and the first last.> I believe that refers specifically to queues for public transport. Incidentally, I think your name is missing an "o". I'm not familiar with the verb "to good". |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Penguincw: Finally a Monday puzzle! It's been a whole week since the last Monday puzzle. ;) Anyway, this puzzle is actually a little too easy, as 21.Rh8+ Kxh8 22.Nxf7+ picks up the queen. At the end of all this, white will be up a queen and 2 pawns for rook and bishop. |
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