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| Nov-11-14 | | MarkFinan: I know Carlsen should be disappointed but he really looks like a sulking child in the press conference. He'll still win it though, that game will have taken a lot out of Anand. I like Anand, be seems a really nice bloke, but Carlsen won't get into a position like that again in this match. Imo! |
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| Nov-11-14 | | 956043: Obviously Anand prepared this line more deeply than Carlsen. It's a fine concept, taking Magnus out of his comfort zone. |
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Nov-11-14
 | | MissScarlett: Just think, another Berlin Defence to look forward to tomorrow. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | Chessinfinite: <Preparation? So Carlsen plays tic tac toe with PHN, and comes straight to play with Anand.> Good one, lol. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | IndianFan: <In iuventus's immortal words Perfidious. You sound like a right sanctimonious git> <infiniteimbecile> - another wizened old lady covered in shawls knitting with her short-sighted eyes - scolding like a "right sanctimonious git". Frick you imbecile.
Frick you Perfidious.
Frick all the other sanctimonius freaks who have only platitudes to contribute. You fricking %^%&%s - this match is a metaphor for India rising as a word power - have you all forgotten how much importance the USSR gave to chess? My scolding of Anand had to do with him playing pusillanimously - today's game was more or less a cheat by Anand - but at least he got a taste of victory over the invincible-seeming kid. To me Carslen is just a kid and a punk (he said "sucks" at the press conference today - I know I know, I am a potty mouth too - but this is just a message board) ) - what poetic justice it would be if Anand cuts him down to size? |
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| Nov-11-14 | | cro777: Carlsen fell right into Anand's preparation. He said: "I was definitely surprised at some point, I can say that." According to Mark Crowther,
Carlsen wasn't ready for 17.Ng5. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | Jim Bartle: <today's game was more or less a cheat by Anand> Could you possibly explain how it's a "cheat"? |
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Nov-11-14
| | MissScarlett: Three disappointing games so far. Hopefully the quality will pick up soon. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | boz: Anyone with a link to the press conference? |
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Nov-11-14
| | MissScarlett: If Magnus needs some comfort food, I suggest a doughnut burger: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30... |
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Nov-11-14
 | | chancho: Tomorrow's game could be a boring draw, or, it may present another opportunity for the Vish. After fours years of being unable to extract the full point in a classical game from Carlsen, he finally did it. This loss by Carlsen cannot so easily be dismissed away. This is a real fight now. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | jphamlore: Having been disparaging about Anand's team, I must congratulate them for their brilliant and efficient preparation of Anand for this particular game. It is efficient preparation because Anand had to prepare the Queen's Gambit Declined as Black since he seems to no longer play the Nimzo-Indian. To avoid a debacle similar to game 5 of his first match with Carlsen, Anand has to allow himself to be forced into playing a regular Queen's Gambit Declined and not his favored Semi-Slavs after something like 1. c4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. ♘c3 ♘f6 and not 3. .. c6. Now we see the logic of what Anand was playing prior to this match at Bilbao 2014. Bilbao Masters (2014)/Viswanathan Anand He had to be prepared for Carlsen choosing something like a Queen's Gambit Declined Ragozin instead of what occurred this game had Carlsen chosen 1. d4 ♘f6 2. c4 e6 3. ♘f3 d5 4. ♘c3 ♗b4. So what better way to prepare than playing that same defense himself as Black? |
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| Nov-11-14 | | IndianFan: <Jim Bartle:> Kasparov - Anand 1995 game 10 - Kaspy I think even admitted that the position in which Anand resigned had been produced in his home prep. They were playing two different games- Kaspy testing his memory and Anand was playing chess. Anand himself has said I think that he ambushed Kramnik in the opening in their match and regards him and Kramnik as equals. Karpov at his peak was better than Kaspy at his peak - opening prep alone has tilted the actual results in Kaspy's favor. I want Anand to win - but I do wish its not all because of home-prep. |
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Nov-11-14
 | | perfidious: <IndianDunce: Frick you imbecile.
Frick you Perfidious.>
Look in the mirror, big man. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | Chris321: < eternaloptimist: <Chris321> Actually that's a good idea! I'm playing a game w/ the white pieces against an afghan >Ok good bro!,you must show me your game/s against him.Ragozin is frexible like the Nimzo,i like it!. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | pcomanici: Wow Nice come back! |
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| Nov-11-14 | | Jim Bartle: <indianfan> How in the world is excellent opening preparation "cheating"? |
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| Nov-11-14 | | pamparana: <Frick you imbecile.
Frick you Perfidious.
Frick all the other sanctimonius freaks who have only platitudes to contribute. You fricking %^%&%s - this match is a metaphor for India rising as a word power - have you all forgotten how much importance the USSR gave to chess?> Chill the frick out. |
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Nov-11-14
 | | WannaBe: Is this how Anand got his groove back? =)) |
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| Nov-11-14 | | chaturangavallabha: Interesting! I expected Carlsen's rooks to come out as they did in the first 2 games. Black's rook did come out today, one was satisfied taking a bishop and issuing cheap threat to whites queen and the other was frozen solid activating only for a kamikaze style take down on a bishop which made no difference to the game. |
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| Nov-11-14 | | chaturangavallabha: Carlsen fanboy logic
Anand loses -- he's weaker than Carlsen, no guts, very old only!!
Carlsen loses -- all home prep only! Ayyo! Carlsen distracted by reflection from old Man Anand's glasses only! |
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| Nov-11-14 | | IndianFan: <Jim Bartle> So you are cool with a game in which one side had analyzed all the way to the end before the first move was played? It may not be a cheat (I think I said "sort of cheat") but as combat - it is tainted. Everybody prepares - but at some point in the game both players must face an unknown future - both should steer the game from then on with their experience, ability, combativness and fortitude and not memorized moves. |
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Nov-11-14
| | perfidious: <Jim: <indianfan> How in the world is excellent opening preparation "cheating"?> Just the sort of rubbish which has been bruited about, most especially in the aftermath of Aronian vs Anand, 2013. As will be seen, <IndianDunce> is far from the only poster who has maundered on regarding this.... |
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| Nov-11-14 | | SirRuthless: This wasn't so much a failure of prep by Carlsen. It was more an understanding of Anand about HOW TO PLAY against Carlsen. It was an aggressive line and other than O-O and Bg3 almost every move had a forceful idea behind it from start to finish. In retrospect perhaps Qa6 would have been strategically weak as well as Be5 because perhaps Carlsen sacs an exchange in either case. Both of those choices of O-O and Bg3 were made to maintain pressure AND avoid saccing the exchange. Carlsen was under relentless pressure from start to finish and was duly crushed. Carlsen rarely wins like this. Generally his opponents equalize out of the opening or he equalizes in much quieter positions and then he proceeds to outplay his opponents. Today he never got the chance. The computers said it was equal at one point but with a well supported pawn on c7 it is NEVER equal for a human defender. THIS is how Anand must play the match. He mustn't revert back to limp chess. He needs to continue to shove those pawns where the sun don't shine. Right up Magnus side of the board. Play sharp, daring chess and be rewarded. I doubt he has lost his last game of the match but I also have no doubt that if he brings this strategy to every game he isn't done winning either. Bravo! |
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| Nov-11-14 | | AdrianP: Boom!
Well done Vishy - typical of his best games. Super home preparation in dynamic lines and did not lack the killer instinct to put Magnus away. Anand at his best is reminiscent of the best serve-and-volleyers in tennis, Magnus maybe has a touch of the Murray/Federer/Nadal... What's also important to note is that home-preparation does not just consist of watching (or not watching a big computer churn away), the human input into computer assisted home preparation is also crucial, and Anand is one of the best at this. |
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