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Luis Lalla vs Victor Alonso Martin
Villa Ballester LV op (2005), rd 8, Jan-15
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense (C70)  ·  1-0

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Mar-09-15
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  Phony Benoni: Well, the mate is right out of <Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess>. I don't know where the rest of the game came from.
Mar-09-15  greed and death: 17. Qxe8+ Nxe8
18. Rxe8#
Mar-09-15  BVer: 11. ...Qf6? Somewhat ill-advised queen sac?
Mar-09-15  M.Hassan: White is a Queen up and can sacrifice her:

17.Qe8+ Nxe8(forced)
18.Qxe8#

Mar-09-15  scassislusor: As you said, VERY EASY! I'll show it to my 9 year old granddaughter.
Mar-09-15  stacase: Way too easy - even for Monday.
Mar-09-15  stst: easy Q-sac for Monday:

17.Qe8+ NxQ
18.RxN# (h7 under the White B's attack.)

Mar-09-15  zb2cr: White is already winning, being a Queen up. It only remains to finish in style, which can easily be done because White's Bishop at c2 covers h7, and Black's back rank is weak. Thus, 17. Qe8+, Nxe8; 18. Rxe8#.
Mar-09-15  stst: right out of <Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess>. ...

if so,

Funny enough, CG's player of the day is exactly ....Fischer!!

Mar-09-15  sorokahdeen: I hope the players are both preschoolers. If they are adults, this quality of play will be embarrassing and permanent.
Mar-09-15  Madman99X: Isn't 2005 a little anachronistic for Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess? I wonder if the individual playing the black pieces duplicated a blunder from yesteryear?
Mar-09-15  BxChess: 17 Qd8+ also gives mate in two
Mar-09-15  lost in space: I love Mondays, especially when they are a little more complicated than this puzzle here.

17. Qe8+ Nxe8 (only move) 18. Rxe8#

Mar-09-15  lost in space: Incredible low quality chess from the black side. First game of a drunk four year old?
Mar-09-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: 11...Qf6 is a bad move.
Mar-09-15  nasher: It is Bobby Fischer's birthday today. The game of the day features Bobby Fischer. But more interesting are some Jun 24, 2012 chrisowen posts from the game of the day ... almost all the words are real words and you can almost understand it. I am a huge chrisowen fan.
Mar-09-15  nasher: Both players only have 1 game (this one) in the database.
Mar-09-15  HowDoesTheHorsieMove: <17 Qd8+ also gives mate in two>

That's what I found, and I much prefer it. No point in sacrificing a queen if you don't need to.

Mar-09-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: In either line suggested in the previous post, Black's horsie moves and is snapped off as the final indignity inflicted upon his position.
Mar-09-15  moncul36: What?! How about putting out an interesting game instead of this woodpusher's banality?
Mar-09-15  sfm: LOL! Must be the worst game ever shown here.
Maybe Fishers very first game - with White, of course?
Mar-09-15  morfishine: Poor example of a chess game, but a useful position if one wants to exercise their imagination. First, from the puzzle position, White is up more than a Queen: He's up a Queen AND a piece. Being up so much material, a good strategy for White is to "trade down" or exchange pieces. One could win from the puzzle position with 18.Bxf6 or even 18.Qxf6 emerging two-pieces to the good

White could even grab more material with 18.Qxc7 forking Rook & Knight

Or White could force mate with either 18.Qe8+ or 18.Qd8+

*****

Mar-09-15  agb2002: White is slightly ahead in material (Q+B).

Black is probably threatening to provoke a deadly jaw-dislocating yawn.

White can finish off Black's misery with 17.Qd8+ Ne8 18.Q(R)xe8#. The position does not deserve the flashy 17.Qe8+.

Mar-09-15  YGraupera: If the final position comes right from Fischer's book (so Phony says), no doubt the puzzle is a tribute to Bobby for his birthday. Perhaps the game itself was another tribute from both players.
Mar-09-15  Abdel Irada: Remarkably, according to this page, Martin has at least one victory over a 2200 to his credit.

http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gi...

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