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Feb-12-16
 | | offramp: I do not find this game so impressive. Yi knew he had at least a perpetual, so he wasn't risking anything, and didn't even have to calculate much. |
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Feb-13-16
 | | tpstar: https://youtu.be/wSIs1MHdFQY |
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| Feb-13-16 | | morfishine: Certainly thrilling but not as good as this one: Wei Yi vs A Haast, 2015 ***** |
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| Feb-13-16 | | FairyPromotion: <offramp: I do not find this game so impressive. Yi knew he had at least a perpetual, so he wasn't risking anything, and didn't even have to calculate much.> I think you are underestimating this game a bit. First, instead of 21. Nd5 white had a few other moves that would give him some edge, so he probably sensed that there was something more when he played it. Second, there are many immortals/ memorable games where the winner mates or material is leveled in 5 moves or less. While the players followed the engine lines, Wei had to calculate other branches between moves 21 and 27. Third, even after Wei sidesteps the perpetual, the win is still far from obvious. Engines struggled a lot on finding the win on several positions during the attack, and the evaluations shifted a lot. Finally, quiet moves like 26. Qf7, 29. Qb3, 31. Qd3, and even 36. Be1 are not easy to see a couple of moves in advance. They are usually under-appreciated. All in all, I'd say this game is a legit immortal. I don't think it is the greatest game ever, but it is a game that should make all the current top 10 jealous. I'd rank it as #4 of the 21st Century (behind Karjakin vs Anand, 2006, A Volokitin vs Mamedyarov, 2012, and Ivanchuk vs Karjakin, 2008.) |
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| Feb-13-16 | | morfishine: <FairyPromotion> On your comment: <All in all, I'd say this game is a legit immortal> Well, IMHO, this game is better than today's GOTD Yi vs Batista: Wei Yi vs A Haast, 2015 So if people insist on calling the Batista game "immortal", then is the Haast game "Really, Really Immortal" lol ***** |
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| Feb-13-16 | | Eyal: Looks like the point where things started to go south for Black was 16...Qd8. Instead, after 16...Re8 (which is indeed the more common move - Opening Explorer), 17.Qh3 can be forcefully met by 17...e5! rater than weakening the K-side. And in continuation of what <FairyPromotion> said about how impressive White's play is, I think one of the most striking things is indeed the number of "quiet" moves (i.e., without a check or a capture) necessary here - 26.Qf7! 29.Qb3! 31.Qd3! and finally 36.Be1! - the last three are only moves to win, the first is one of two winning moves (together with the computeresque 26.c4!). Also, although at several points White still has a draw by perpetual even if he isn't completely accurate, it's not so difficult to actually lose with natural-looking (and forcing) moves such as 25.Qf7+?, 26.Qxg6+?, or 31.h3+? |
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| Feb-13-16 | | greed and death: IMO, this is one of the best puns I've seen on this site. |
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| Feb-13-16 | | morfishine: <Eyal> Excellent points |
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| Feb-13-16 | | morfishine: <greed and death> Hah, you are kidding, right? LOL |
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Feb-13-16
 | | Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naK.... < Jul-06-15 Penguincw: ... 10 more collections, and this'll be Wei Yi's #1 game. :) > Well, it's Wei Yi's #1 game now. |
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Feb-15-16
 | | OhioChessFan: <gad> not losing sleep over it, but the pun is uber-obvious. |
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| Feb-15-16 | | Eyal: <the pun is uber-obvious> Considering what a promising player Wei Yi is, I'm afraid there are lots and lots of obvious way-related puns on the horizon... as if we haven't suffered enough already from how-related puns:-) |
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Feb-15-16
| | OhioChessFan: So what? |
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| Mar-17-16 | | Exploding: 27.♕b3! is better, with a forced mate in 7. |
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| Mar-17-16 | | Exploding: Everyone agrees that 31.♕d3+?! is the only way to win. However, now in 2016 I have prove that this move gives black unnecessary counter-attack chances, instead White should played obvious h3+!? (which at that time some people call this a "blunder") with the following lines: A) penetrating futher in to white's camp with {31...Kg3 allows 32. ♗g5+! ♗f3 33.♕f3#. B) The "obvious" {3l...Kh5 allows 32.g4+ ♔h4 33.♗f2+ ♔g5 34.♕e3#. C) And finally 31...♔h4 allows 32.♕b4+!! (The move that I think everyone missed) e4 33.♕e1+! ♔h5 34.g4#. Bye, guys! |
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| Mar-17-16 | | markz: <Exploding> 31.h3 indeed is a blunder. After 31.h3 Kh5, the 32.g4 is a illegal move |
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| Mar-26-16 | | rahulbcp: Rxf7!!! |
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| May-06-16 | | Alexandro: In 23th move instead of taking the rook, Batista should return the knight to f6, isolating the rook, defending qh7#, avoiding the sequence that guiding the black king to center and threatening the rook in next move. I think that the exit of Wei's preparation would be the move 23 kf6! |
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| May-06-16 | | markz: <Alexandro: In 23th move instead of taking the rook, Batista should return the knight to f6> I believe you meant in 22th move for black. If Batista returned the knight to f6, Wei can play Qe6, and white is clearly winning. |
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| Aug-03-16 | | fisayo123: Wei Yi had to see 26.Qf7! When he played the rook sacrifice. Whatever safety perpetual check net he had ended prior to that. |
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Jan-01-17
| | Penguincw: Happy 2017 everyone. I haven't posted anything on this site since last year. Unfortunately, this year starts on a Sunday, which could mean getting off to a bad start in <cg> puzzles, which is what I don't want, so didn't even bother trying to solve. Although I did see the name of the 2 players, and recognized the game. Maybe could've solved it, if I remembered the entire combination. 0/0 this week, and year. |
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| Jan-01-17 | | IAmMe: This puzzle is still to early as some people remember the combination or the entire game it could be suitable for 2018 |
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| Jan-01-17 | | diagonalley: the rook sac is rather obvious to spot, but (especially the way the game went thereafter) it is clear that it was played as a leap of faith rather than as a line calculated to a conclusion. very entertaining though. HNY tout le monde |
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| Jan-01-17 | | NBZ: Rxf7 Kxf7 Qh7+ is clearly the critical line. I struggled for a long time with Kf6, before realizing that Kf6 exd5! threatens both Qxg6# and Rf1#: Black cannot defend both threats. So Black must play Ke6 and now exd5 comes with check. Now if Bxd5 (blocking the black king's escape route), White has it easy: for example Qxg6+ Bf6 Bf5+ Ke7 Qh7+ Kf8 Bh6+. So Kxd5 is forced, and now Be4+ sort of jumps out (otherwise Kc6 and the black king escapes). I stopped here as this looked really promising (at the least the black queen is lost and white has a continuing attack). I admit Qf7!! completely escaped me, that is a brilliant move and perhaps the point of the entire combination. Brilliant insight from Wei Yi to see Qf7!! and also to sense intuitively that Black king has no way to escape the net. (He cannot, surely, have seen all the lines all the way to the end). |
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| Jan-01-17 | | NBZ: By the way: what is White's continuation after 22. Rxf7 Nf6? Black just coolly brings back his knight and the rook is trapped on f7 (!). I am thinking 23. Qe6, which looks very dangerous. But if Black tries 23. ... Bf8! (a position so rich that it surely deserves a diagram): 
click for larger viewHow does White win here?
(1) Rxd7+ Rxe6 Rxd8 and here Black can keep fighting despite being the exchange down.
(2) Rxf8+ Kf8 Bh6+ Rg7 Bxg7+ Kxg7 is not very clear either.
(3) Re7+ Kh8 Qh3+ Nh5!and I still don't see a win for white. |
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