Dec-16-18
 | | Breunor: I'm surprised that there isn't more kibbitzing about the wonderful combination starting with 16 Nxf5 ending with the quiet but crushing 19 Qf3! Just a beautiful combination! |
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Oct-15-20
 | | FSR: 16.Nxf5 exf5 17.Nxf7 Rxe2 18.Nxd6+ cxd6 19.Rxe2+-. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | thegoodanarchist: <Breunor: I'm surprised that there isn't more kibbitzing about the wonderful combination starting with 16 Nxf5 ending with the quiet but crushing 19 Qf3!> Probably because it is the juniors. The Combo is very cool. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | The17thPawn: Don't understand 19...'c6 at all. Doesn't make any attempt to bring assistance to the black king. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | The17thPawn: Black has bigger problems than a hanging rook at that point in the game. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Walter Glattke: FSR 18.Nxd6+ cxd6 19.BxKg8 18.-Kg7 19.Nxf5+ Bxf5 20.Rxe2, better 17.Bxf7+ Kg7 18.Bxe8 as in the match, 16.-Qd8 17.Qf3 Rb8 18.Qg3+ Kh8 19.Nxf7# 17.-Nxf5 18.Qxa8 |
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| Oct-15-20 | | agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair. The bishop x-rays the pawn on f7. This suggests 16.Nxf5: A) 16... exf5 17.Bxf7+ Kg7 (17... Kh8 18.Bxe8 wins decisive material: 18... Nxe8 19.Nf7+ and 20.Nxd6) 18.Bxe8 Nxe8 19.Qf3 (19.Nc4 Qb4) 19... Rb8 20.Qg3+ Kf6 (20... Kh6 21.Nf7+ Kh5 22.Qg5#; 20... Kh8 21.Nf7#) 21.Qh4+ Ke6 (21... Kg7 22.Qg5+ wins) 22.Nc4+ wins decisive material. B) 16... Qb4 17.c3 Qa5 (17... Qxa4 18.Ra1 traps the queen) 18.b4 Bxb4 19.cxb4 wins decisive material. C) 16... Qd8 17.Qf3 wins decisive material (17... Rb8 18.Qg3+ and mate in three). |
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Oct-15-20
 | | OhioChessFan: Not as convincing as the game, but I tried 19. Nc4 which is an easy win. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: I saw it up through 19 Qf3 for a small material gain, as in 19 ... Rb1/Ra1
20 Nc6 with an attack on the rook and a discovered attack on the knight. Nice to see that there was actually something much more thumping. |
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Oct-15-20
| | OhioChessFan: <agb: bishop x-rays the pawn on f7. This suggests 16.Nxf5: A) 16... exf5 17.Bxf7+ Kg7 (17... Kh8 18.Bxe8 wins decisive material: 18... Nxe8 19.Nf7+ and 20.Nxd6) 18.Bxe8 Nxe8 19.Qf3 (19.Nc4 Qb4) 19... Rb8 > 19. Nc4 Qb4. 20. Qxe8 Qxc4 21. Rd3 f4 22. Qe5+ Kg8 23. Qxf4 and White's got an easy win. 
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| Oct-15-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: The engine thinks that Black was fine through Move 11, but after Move 12 White's attack was scary enough to provide substantial advantage. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Brenin: 16 Nxf5 was not hard to find, but one needed to foresee 19 Qf3, gaining a tempo by attacking the hanging R on a8. With hindsight that makes 12 ... b6 look a bad mistake, along with several other moves like 14 ... Re8 which weakened Black's position. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: To be clear, the combination before Move 19 gets a rook and 2 pawns for two pieces. So any calculation showing further good things happen after 19 Qf3 is enough to justify diving in. ... And yes, the engine seems to agree witn <Brenin> that 12 ... b6 was horrible, and <Brenin>'s reason sounds exactly right. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | malt: Have 16.Nf5 ef5
(16...Qd8 17.Qf3 Rb8 18.Qg3+ wins )
17.B:f7+ Kg7 18.B:e8 Bb7 19.Qe3 Ne4 20.f3 wins |
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| Oct-15-20 | | mel gibson: The first few moves were easy.
Stockfish 12 says:
16. Nxf5
(16. Nxf5 (♘g3xf5 e6xf5 ♗c4xf7+ ♔g8-g7
♗f7xe8 ♗c8-e6 ♗e8-c6 ♖a8-b8 ♖d1-d3 ♔g7-h8 ♖d3-h3 ♗e6-g8 ♗c6-f3 ♘f6-d7
♘e5-c6 ♖b8-a8 c2-c3 a6-a5 ♘c6-e7 ♖a8-e8 ♘e7-g6+ ♔h8-g7 ♕e2xe8 h7xg6 ♕e8-e3
f5-f4 ♕e3-e8 ♘d7-f6 ♕e8-e5 ♕d6xe5 d4xe5 ♘f6-h7 ♗f3-g4 ♗f8-c5 ♖h3-f3 ♗g8-d5
♖f3-d3 c7-c6 e5-e6 ♘h7-f6 ♗g4-f3 ♔g7-f8 g2-g3 ♔f8-e7 ♗f3xd5 c6xd5 ♔g1-g2
♗c5-d6 b2-b3 ♗d6-c5 ♔g2-f3 f4xg3 h2xg3 ♘f6-h7 ♖e1-e2 ♘h7-g5+ ♔f3-g4 ♘g5-e4)
+7.78/40 317)
score for White +7.78 depth 40 |
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| Oct-15-20 | | mel gibson: When Black resigns it's mate in 12:
Stockfish 12.
22... Qg6
(♕d6-g6 ♘e5xg6 h7-h6 ♕g5-d8 ♗c8-b7
♕d8-d7+ ♔g7xg6 ♖e1xe8 ♖a8xe8 ♕d7xe8+ ♔g6-g7 ♖d1-e1 ♗b7-c8 ♕e8xc8 b6-b5
♕c8-e8 ♗f8-c5 ♖e1-e6 ♗c5-f8 ♖e6-g6+ ♔g7-h7 ♕e8-f7+ ♔h7-h8 ♖g6-g8+) -M12/68
85 |
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| Oct-15-20 | | TheaN: Hm. Questionable answer to a Thursday puzzle, it's not really my week. Of course <16.Nxf5> is not a too terrible move to see because it exposes a weak f7 pawn. Black can't decline this really, as the queen's suffocating otherwise, ie 16....Qb4 17.c3 +- and White's calling all the shots. However, after <16....exf5> I really wanted 17.Nxf7?! to work. I did not spot 19.Qf3, even though I did spot that idea at some point and was eyeing 19.Qh5 in that position, so that's a bit of a shame. After 17.Nxf7?! Black is on a slippery slope but should just take what he can with 17....Rxe2! 18.Nxd6+ Kg7, gaining a tempo on Nd6 (Kh8 19.Nf7+ +-). White doesn't have much better than 19.Nxf5+ Bxf5 20.Rxe2 ⩲ to ±:
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I would rather be White here due to the share of pawns, but the Black pieces are fairly strong. 17.Bxf7+ with 19.Qf3 is curtains so, this ain't that great. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | vajeer: White Queen's little crawl in the end is really nasty, leaves no chance of counter. |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Predrag3141: <Brenin one needed to foresee 19 Qf3> 19 Qf3 beautifully exploits Black's inability to block checks or retreat his king. But if you expected the more obvious 19 Nc4 Qd5 20 Qxe8 Qxc4 21 Rd3, take credit for that too. This attack is so strong that Stockfish suggests 19 Nc4 Qg6, leaving White an exchange and two pawns ahead with an easy win. |
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Oct-15-20
 | | Jimfromprovidence: There is also a very satisfying way that white can proceed if black opts for 19...Bb7, below, instead of the text 19...c6.
click for larger view White to play play and win (beside 20 Qxb7). |
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| Oct-15-20 | | Brenin: <Jimfromprovidence>: I guess after 19 ... Bb7 it has to be 20 Qg3+ Kf6 (Kh8 21 Nf7#, or Kh6 21 Nf7+ Kh5 22 Qg5#) 21 Qh4+ Ke6 (Kg7 loses to 22 Qg5+ Kh8 23 Nf7#, or 22 ... Qg6 23 Nxg6) 22 Nc4+ and 23 Nxd6, winning the Q; or maybe 22 Qxh7, threatening 23 Qf7#, is even stronger, e.g. 22 ... Kd5 23 c4+ Ke6 24 Qf7# |
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Kibitzing
sac: 16.Nxf5