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Luis Paulo Supi vs Magnus Carlsen
Online blitz (2020) (blitz), Chess.com, May-26
Scandinavian Defense: General (B01)  ·  1-0

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Oct-15-20
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  keypusher: < Diademas: <Sally Simpson: You pay a sub and support the site, good for you,> No he doesn't.

<Update 1/3/2020

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That’s quite an assortment. Some of those people I’d give a lifetime membership to; others.... Santa doesn’t seem to care whether you’re naughty or nice.

Oct-15-20
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  perfidious: I am willing to hazard a few guesses as to which members received theirs for getting in on the 'Dear Santa' and which got there for 'meritorious service'; trying to suss out at least one or two of the 23 named could prove entertaining.
Oct-16-20  goodevans: <Supi twist>

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...

Feb-08-21  tarashi: D Waterman vs R Samo, 1974 same idea
Jun-04-24
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  Korora: "Take my wife -- please!"
Jun-04-24  Kauz888: That was a classical sacrifice, congrats Supi!
Jun-04-24
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: For a single move, Supi became the greatest player who ever lived.

I'd take that.

Jun-04-24  mel gibson: A bit tricky for Tuesday.

Stockfish 16.1 says mate in 6:

18. Qc6

(18. Qc6 (1.Qc6 bxc6 2.bxc6 Qb1+ 3.Rxb1 Kb8 4.Rba1 Ba3 5.Rxa3 f6 6.Ra8+) +M6/147 12)

Jun-04-24  saturn2: A bit misleading. with the info Tuesday.
So I took 18 Ra8+ followed by Qxb7.
They should have said Thursda, or white mates.
Jun-04-24
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  chrisowen: I cap its q job men funky its Qc6 gab ie arrived its odd ed Qc6 buff;
Jun-04-24  TheaN: This game has been meme'd a bit, as this is the origination of the 'savage' gesture that Carlsen makes that you see on a lot of YT shorts, shown in the Twitch clip that <Sally> linked four years ago: https://www.twitch.tv/maskenissen/c...

And rightfully so. I think I agree with <saturn> that if I didn't know this combination, Tuesday is a very rough estimate for a Queen-sac quiet move. <18.♕c6!!> <is> savage though per Carlsen's response.

Key is <18....bxc6 19.bxc6> and Black has no proper way to defend against Ra8#. <19....♕b1+ 20.♖xb1> works for now, but White <still> threatens Ra8# so <20....♔b8> is forced, but after <21.♖ba1> it comes anyway after <21....♗a3 22.♖xa3 with 23.♖a8#>. Incredible combination, and the traction this got is deserved.

Jun-04-24
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  chrisowen: No no no Qc6 carafes xx
Jun-04-24  Damenlaeuferbauer: I have to concede, that I knew this game, because I watched it on the Internet. 18.Qc6!! and black cannot avoid mate. I hope instantly, that the human being Luis Paolo Supi himself found this brilliant move and not a silicon monster! Today everything is very difficult to evaluade and judge!
Jun-04-24
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  takebackok: Another (easy) miss I try to solve in under a minute or two, what's happened to easy peasy Tuesday and queen sac Monday's nice puzzle?!
Jun-04-24  alshatranji: May be it's just me, but this was not "easy". After a good deal of thought, I had c5, which wins too (Stockfish at +7.53), but not as decisively.
Jun-04-24  Lloyd Gross: 17. Rfa1 was unnecessary. The queen sac could have occurred one move sooner, 17. Qc6!
Jun-04-24  mel gibson: < Lloyd Gross: 17. Rfa1 was unnecessary. The queen sac could have occurred one move sooner, 17. Qc6!>

No it couldn't - Black would win.

Stockfish 16.1 says:

17. Qc6

(17. Qc6 bxc6 (1. ... bxc6 2.Bxd6 Rxd6 3.Ra6 Qc5 4.Rxc6 Qxc6 5.bxc6 Rxc6 6.b3 Nf6 7.Rd1 Rd8 8.Rd3 Ne4 9.g4 Nc5 10.Rf3 d3 11.Rxf7 d2 12.Kg2 Nxb3 13.Re7 Rg6 14.Re3 Nc5 15.Re5 Nd3 16.Rb5+ Kc8) +9.71/34 162)

score for Black +9.71 depth 34.

Jun-04-24  King.Arthur.Brazil: Today, I failed completely... the king tried something like 8. Ra8+ Kd7 19. Rxd8+ Kxd8 20. Bg5+ Qxg5 21. Qxf7 Ne7 and then what? This stupid line leads to nowhere. I really didn't see Qc6... :(
Jun-04-24  TheaN: <mel gibson: < Lloyd Gross: 17. Rfa1 was unnecessary. The queen sac could have occurred one move sooner, 17. Qc6!>

No it couldn't - Black would win.

Stockfish 16.1 says:

17. Qc6

(17. Qc6 bxc6 (1. ... bxc6 2.Bxd6 Rxd6>

<This> is one of those lines where just posting computer analysis really doesn't do justice to the position: SF tries to 'salvage' something with 18.Bxd6. Of course the point is 18.Rfa1, with White threatening 19.bxc6 with Ra8#. It's way too slow though, so I'm not really sure what <Lloyd Gross> was thinking:


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19....Kb7 works for Black but may look a bit risky. Instead, 19....Qxf4! 20.bxc6 Qh2+ 21.Kf1 Qh1+ 22.Ke2 Qxa1 -+ and White might as well resign.

Jun-04-24
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  beatgiant: <Lloyd Gross> The flaw with 17. Qc6 is the following: 17. Qc6 bxc6 18. bxc6 <Qc5> 19. Rfa1 Qxc6, and White's attack runs out of steam.
Jun-05-24  Lloyd Gross: Thank you for the analysis <beatgiant> <theaN> and <mel gibson>. I stand corrected.
Jun-05-24  Lloyd Gross: Perhaps Black could have tried 17…Qc5 instead of moving the King.
Jun-10-24
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  beatgiant: <Lloyd Gross> Are we looking at the same position? 17...Qc5?? 18. Ra8#.
Jun-10-24
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  chancho: The Wow signal.
Mar-04-25
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  FSR: As <tarashi> pointed out, the finish is very similar to D Waterman vs R Samo, 1974.
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