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Magnus Carlsen vs Ian Nepomniachtchi
Carlsen - Nepomniachtchi World Championship Match (2021), Dubai UAE, rd 8, Dec-05
Russian Game: Modern Attack. Center Variation (C43)  ·  1-0

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Dec-07-21  optimal play: <bounce back after two devastating defeats>

Fischer/Spassky

Korchnoi/Karpov

Steinizt/Zukertort

Kasparov/Karpov

All of the above had much longer matches, even unlimited in some cases.

They had plenty of time to work out their problems and make up the deficit.

Nepo only has six games left, five if Carlsen can draw from here on.

It's possible, but time is against Nepo.

Dec-07-21  weisyschwarz: Will he stay with the Petrov, or will we see a Sicilian?
Dec-07-21
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  WannaBe: Kramnik used to deploy Petrov as draw/win opening, if Nepo can't draw with Petrov, win with Sicilian will be even more difficult. (This is purely based upon my opinion...)

As Sicilian is a double-edged sword/opening, one mistake will doom the player. And Big Bad Mag will make you pay for the tiniest mistake, until it become +3.00

Dec-07-21  The17thPawn: The opera ain't over but the fat lady is warming up backstage.
Dec-07-21  Caissanist: Many historical players have bounced back from two tough losses, but Carlsen has only lost two out of the 48 games played in his previous WC matches. Compared to other world champions, his outstanding attribute is his consistency; he does not win the majority of tournaments he plays in but he's always close, I can't remember him having a truly bad tournament since well before he became champion. The only way he loses this is if he has his worst meltdown in at least a decade.
Dec-07-21  fabelhaft: <he does not win the majority of tournaments he plays in but he's always close>

I think he does win most of them over all, apart from the last two years

http://www.chessfocus.com/tournamen...

Dec-07-21  fabelhaft: If the linked stats are correct, Carlsen has won 38 (and not won 23) of his last 61 tournaments.
Dec-07-21  AlicesKnight: I still admire the way Carlson kept his Q more centralised and powerful compared with Nepo's consort - MC both blocked the possible perpetuals and controlled the centre, as well as backing the passed pawns. For an ordinary player like me, this was instructive; a won game still has to be won.
Dec-07-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: Carlsen's worst after 2013 must be Norway Chess (2015).
Dec-07-21  Albertan: Carlsen: ´´The last three games have been like a dream’´:

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/ca...

Dec-07-21  Albertan: Carlsen takes commanding lead after second victory with the Whie pieces:

https://kasparovchess.com/articles/...

Dec-07-21  RookFile: Apparently, playing like a chess hustler with black is not the best approach in a world championship match.
Dec-07-21  Albertan: FIDE World Championship World Championship Match Game 8 recap video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eq...

Dec-07-21  Albertan: ´´One Misplaced Pawn May Have Clinched The World Chess Championship’.´:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...

‘’World Chess Championship Nepo lost game 8,his chances to win the match are minimal:´: ´ https://worldchess.com/news/all/wor...

Dec-07-21  Albertan: ´´Carlsen wins Game 8 as Nepo Falters in FIDE Word Chess Championship’´:

https://www.chess.com/news/view/fid...

´´World Championship Game 8:Nepomniachtchi Self-Destructs’:

https://en.chessbase.com/post/world...

Dec-07-21  cormier: komodo 13 depth=38

+0.42 10. Re1+ Kf8 11. h3 Qf6 12. Be3 Bf5 13. Rc1 Re8 14. c4 dxc4 15. Bxc4 Qg6 16. Kf1 b6 17. Qb3 c6 18. Bd2 Rxe1+ 19. Rxe1 b5 20. Be2 Kg8 21. Rc1 Be4 22. Bf3 Kh7 23. Bxe4 Qxe4 24. f3 Qxd4 25. Be3 Qe5 26. Rxc6 Rd8 27. Bxa7 Kg8 28. Qc2 Qd5 29. Bb6 Re8 30. Bf2 Bf4 31. Rc8 Rxc8 32. Qxc8+ Kh7 33. Qc5 Qd1+

+0.37 10. c4 Qh4 11. g3 Qxd4 12. Bc3 Qg4 13. Qxg4 Bxg4 14. Bxg7 Rg8 15. Rfe1+ Kd7 16. Bc3 dxc4 17. Bxc4 Raf8 18. Re3 Rg6 19. Rd3 h4 20. Re1 a6 21. Bb4 hxg3 22. fxg3 Be6 23. Bxd6 cxd6 24. Bb3 b5 25. Bd5 Bxd5 26. Rxd5 Re6 27. Rf1 Re5 28. Rd2 f5 29. Rc1

+0.29 10. Qf3 Be6 11. g3 Qd7 12. Bg5 Be7 13. Bxe7 Qxe7 14. Rae1 O-O-O 15. c3 Qd7 16. Re5 h4 17. Rfe1 hxg3 18. fxg3 Rde8 19. h4 a6 20. Qe3 Rd8 21. Bc2 Kb8 22. Bd1 Qd6 23. Bf3 Bd7 24. Bg2 Be6 25. a3 Qc6 26. Qf2 Qb6 27. Qe2 g6 28. Rf1 Rhe8 29. Rf6

Dec-07-21  Caissanist: <fabelhaft> Thanks for the link, great site. I had forgotten that he used to struggle in Norwegian tournaments.
Dec-07-21
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  scutigera: <Mississaugan, diceman>: Fischer did come back after those two defeats, but I don't think he doubted his ability to come back after a loss when Spassky still had to get eleven more wins, and I don't think he was devastated at all by the loss he incurred for not showing up. Moreover, Bobby was already being eaten alive by his inner demons - this match was the last serious chess he played for twenty-five years.

It's true that winning the world championship the way he did was yet another jewel in Fischer's crown, but comparing a chessplayer's psychology to Bobby Fischer's is like using a live rattlesnake as a tape measure.

Dec-09-21  VerySeriousExpert: After 7.Nd2 Yury V. Bukayev recommends 7...Qh4! ( https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... ).
Jan-15-22  dunkenchess: Now this one is Petrov's Defense
Jan-15-22  Refused: <moronovich: <you are right! but there was only one man who was as stubborn and grumpy as Korchnoi, and that was Korchnoi! LOL> I think there was a kind of saying among GM´s, that if you weren´t insulted by Kortchnoi, you were not a real chessplayer ;).>

Wasn't that saying about Dutch GM Hein Donner? I vaguely recall one of the German GMs of the day once adding tongue in cheek, that Donner cursed him over his poor Dutch being an insult to his ears (thus him meeting that threshold).

Jan-15-22  dunkenchess: Uncharacter move in Rd 10 when Nepo move his king without castling
Mar-01-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I love how every square on the d-file is occupied after 8...Bd6.
Mar-01-24  RookFile: Pure symmetry.
Mar-02-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Stockfish 16 says that best is 7...f5! (which almost no one plays) 8.O-O Qf6! 9.Nf3 Bd6. Now if 10.Ne5!?, a pawn sac recommended by Jan Gustafsson and Vjekoslav Nemec in their Chessable course <Gustafsson's Aggressive 1.e4 - Part 1>, taking the pawn is OK but gives White more than enough play, but instead 10...O-O-O! is equal.
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