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Vladimir Kramnik vs Hans Niemann
Casual game (2023) (blitz), chess.com INT, Sep-02
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  0-1

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Sep-09-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <My match against Hans Niemann. Detailed analysis>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYg...

What was the exact date of this game?

Sep-09-23  EvanTheTerrible: September 2nd, 2023.
Sep-09-23  Messiah: Very Bad!
Sep-09-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: Does Kramnik believe that after all the ballyhoo Hans will come back to chess.com and cheat to win a skittles game that due to who his opponent is will attract world wide attention.

I've no idea why Kramnik posted that vid. Halfway through he tells us only grand masters will understand what he is talking about. We are not worthy, smug judge Kramnik is the law.

These 'cry wolf' claims by Kramnik appear every time he loses a game. Soon nobody will take him seriously. Meanwhile Kramnik has posted at Reddit:

GM Vladimir Kramnik - Cheating Tuesdays (sic)

"I would like to inform that from now on will only play events on chess.com with serious anticheating measures such as cameras and share screen.

Unfortunately, to my surprise I have realised that cheating is quite a common practice even among titled players, and since here the approach towards this seems to be quite tolerant (quite a few titled players are using comp assistance during games according to my conclusions based on statistics and mathematical probabilities and getting away with it), it is growing and growing, as far as I can judge by statistics I am collecting last couple of months.

I hope one day some REAL fight against fraud online (and cheating in prize events IS a FRAUD) will start but for now I will keep on publishing statistics and videos, develope anticheating math systems and publish the conclusions.

But since collected enough material for my private investigation, will stop playing Cheating Tuesdays and other events without strong anticheating measures. Thanks for your understanding."

https://www.reddit.com/user/mfqxe33o/

Sep-09-23
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  MissScarlett: The first suspect moment ('strange things...strange time management'), according to Kramnik, is Niemann's <15...Bd7> on which he spent an entire 5 seconds - 'I don't understand what..there is no other move, obviously yeah. Because if Bishop goes to another diagonal [plays ...Bh7], then f4-f5 comes and it's just bad, yeah, simply bad, obviously.'

See Karjakin vs Ding Liren, 2020.

Sep-09-23  EvanTheTerrible: Not only that, MS, but if you watch Hans's stream you can see that even before Kramnik plays Nd4 he's holding the bishop over d7 in anticipation.
Sep-13-23  EvanTheTerrible: "Never Beat Your Heroes"
Sep-13-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: See Carlsen vs Niemann, 2022.
Sep-13-23  EvanTheTerrible: I must have internalized that when I saw that previously.
Sep-13-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: This game might be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Sep-13-23  EvanTheTerrible: Kramnik will almost certainly decline Niemann's offer.
Sep-19-23  EvanTheTerrible: "Friend or Faux"
Oct-12-23  Messiah: 'Rear Madrid'
Oct-12-23  Messiah: or 'ASSumptions'
Sep-06-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <This game might be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.>

<I've embraced his teachings. That's why I've done so well, because Kramnik is my life coach, my mentor, my good friend.>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzx...

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