| Oct-11-03 | | rochade18: I always thought that the stonewall system is more popular than other Dutch variations |
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| Oct-11-03 | | Helloween: Not as popular as the Leningrad Systems with g6 and Bg7. White can play Ba3 in the Stonewall and leave Black with a bad light Bishop. |
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| Oct-11-03 | | Kenkaku: It appears to me that the Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky Variation has just about completely taken over based on games in this database. |
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| Jul-27-04 | | Helloween: A94 actually respresents and line with 7...c6 after 7.b3 in 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 3.g3 e6 4.Bg2 Be7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.0-0 d5, while A93 is 7.b3 without 7...c6. I've noticed quite a few of these errors in these openings pages... |
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| Aug-20-05 | | vampiero: <Helloween>
black isn't forced to give up the dark bishop. todays modern lines show Black playing Bd6, and Qe7 after white plays b3 so that it would take a while to force Black to exchange the dark squared bishop with Qc1 and such. it's not tottaly forced. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | Shams: <vampiero> Bd6 instead of Be7, you mean? Prior to ...d5? can you give the line please |
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| Aug-21-05 | | vampiero: 1. d4 f5
2. c4 Nf6
3. g3 e6
4. Bg2 c6
5. Nf3 d5
6. 0-0 Bd6
7. b3 Qe7 and black supports his pawn on e6 and stops white from playing Ba3 (temporarily at least). This of course will not be in the liking for the Botvinnik stategy or Black players with the queen (Qd8-e8-h5). Then again it keeps the dark square bishop alive and if White still tries to exchange it he can either continue by playing a4 and then Ba3 or by placing the bihsop on b2, queen on c1 and then continuing with Ba3 |
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| Aug-21-05 | | misguidedaggression: Black can also play ...b6 after b3 to meet Ba3 with ...c5. It's probably not a good idea, but it can be done. (I lost in a slow and painful fashion the last time I tried it.) Also, note that white has to play O-O before b3 otherwise Black can check the king to get the Queen behind the bishop. For example: 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nf3 e6 4.g3 d5 5.Bg2 c6 6.b3?! Bb4+ Now after 7.Bd2 black just plays ...Bd6 retaining the bishop. 7.Nfd2 is met by ...Qe7. |
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| Nov-04-05 | | vampiero: i suggest you read Aagaards book on the Stonewall dutch, there is a variation were White plays the bishop to f4, and in your vacriation, after 'Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Bd6 retaining the bishop 8. Bf4 getting rid of it or placing it on Be7 in a weak position, the author just suggests that Black might as well get something out of the bishop trade so he suggest the take on f4 to ruin Whites pawn structure a little bit. But nevertheless, the bishop is gone |
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| Feb-08-06 | | foolishmovesss: I have found that after white plays a4 to try and trade the dark bishops, black can try with Na6 and bring the Knight to its new found home on b4, I usually get this position from a transposition in some slav variants. In the cases where I play this I usually get in a5 before white ever gets in a4, then the knight on b4 is really hard to remove and white is hard pressed to ever trade dark square bishops. |
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| Feb-08-06 | | vampiero: but how often does White actually play a4? I've seen it but its pretty rare |
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| Feb-08-06 | | foolishmovesss: Indeed it is. However if you transpose from the Slav as I do, you see it more often, since you play a5 threatning a4 to gain massive space on the queenside. I have found with the white pieces that if you allow black to much queenside space, you usually end up being very pasive because black owns the kingside, and well there isnt much play in the center. So when I see a5 from the white side, I play a4 to stop the space gaining a4 from black. I have to give up the b4 square, but to get a square you have to give a square, as some GM once said. I believe it was Fischer but I don't really know. |
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| Dec-23-07 | | Chess Addict: I wonder if the trade of dark-colored bishops favors white. Dark squares near the center may be weakened, but Black can bring his bad light-squared bishop to h5 via d7-e8-h5. Looking at the statistics: 54% W and 15% B, I may have to look for another variation for White. |
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| May-23-11 | | Muk: <Chess Addict> It looks for that Bxa6 is better because if white plays Nbd7 (<or another move>) White will play Qc1 and when black play Bxa3 then Qxa3 and white controls the a3 f8 diagonal. If black plays Bxa3 then the following variation is possible: 9.Nxa3 Qe7 10.Nc2 Nbd7 11.Qd3 b6 12.Ne3 Bb7 13.a4 Ng4 etc. |
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| Aug-14-14 | | Xeroxx: Very esoteric line. |
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