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| May-24-05 | | Everett: <Eric Schiller> That "playable" in quotations scares me. You are a huge fan? How do you feel after Ne2 and Bf4 as black? |
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May-24-05
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| May-24-05 | | Everett: Thanks, appreciate the feedback, and good luck in you matches. |
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| Jun-14-05 | | MUG: Hello everybody. After playing the Scandinavian 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 for a few years, I'm coming to the opinion that after the line 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bc4, my usual responce 4...Bg4 5. f3 Bf5 offers Black limited chances of getting anything good from the game. Does anybody have any experience, or an opinion of, the line 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bc4 b5?
The database is pretty sparce and my books on the Scandinavian only briefly touch on this variation.
Many thanks for any help. |
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| Jun-14-05 | | WMD: On ICC my games with Black usually go something like: 4...b5 5.Bb3 a5 6.a3 Bg4
7.f3 Bc8 8.Nc3 Ba6/c6 and White has a small plus. When/if to throw in ...a4 is a matter of choice. |
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| Jun-15-05 | | foolishmovesss: I think ROman Dzindzichashvili has one of his DVDs about only the Center-Counter. He says its as good as Caro, French, and some sicillians. |
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| Jun-19-05 | | chessfreako: I was searching though you old stuff and i found a game from a tourny I played 2 years ago that followed the
Scandinavian.It went:
1.e4 d5
2.exd5 Nf6
3.Nc3 Nxd5
4.Bc4 Nxc3
5.bxc3 Bf5
6.Qf3 Bg6
7.Qxb7 Nd7
8.Nf3 e6
9.Bb5 Qb8
10.Qc6 Qc8
11.Ne5 Bd6
12.Nxd7 Ke7
13.Nc5 Rd8
14.Nb3 Rb8
15.O-O Rb6
16.Qc4 c5
17.Ba3 Qb7
18.Nc5 Rc8
19.Nxc7 Rxc4
20.Nxd6(Still can't believe I made this move back then lol)
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Jun-19-05
 | | Chessical: <Mug> Here is how Jose Raul Capablanca played the opening froma simultaneous display in London (1929). Black is Wreford Brown: <1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bc4 b5> 5.Bb3 Bg4 6.f3 Bc8 7.Qe2 a6 8.a4 c6 (8..b4!?) 9.axb5 cxb5 10.Nc3 Bb7 11.Nh3 Nxd5 12.Ng5 h6 13.Qe4 hxg5 14.Bxd5 Bxd5 15.Qxd5 Qxd5 16.Nxd5 Ra7 17.d3 e6 18.Nc3 b4 19.Ne4 f6 20.Be3 Ra8 21.Bc5 Nd7 22.Bxf8 Kxf8 23.Ra5 Ke7 24.Kd2 Rhc8 25.Rha1 Rc6 26.R1a4 f5 27.Nxg5 Rac8 28.c3 bxc3+ 29.bxc3 Rxc3 30.Ra2; the score stops here for reasons that are unknown. Black is definately still in the game. |
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| Jun-24-05 | | vampiero: personally, im new to the scandinavian, i was doing a 7 game match against my friend, and in the final game, to secure my win, i used the scandinavian since i was looking for a sharp position. actually it ended in a 4.5-2.5 win for me.
im actually getting into very sharp play and thinking of using it. can somebody tell me the main line (s) and their theoretical goal or analysis plz |
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| Jul-02-05 | | Giancarlo: I could never understand blacks rush in this opening... |
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| Jul-08-05 | | admeyer: <chess man and tpstar> 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+!? is probably most commonly known as the patzer variation since Fischer dogged it and subsequently named it as such. You can call it whatever they want by I call it my main response to 1.e4! Sometimes I play blitz games against a NM and when I lose too many games in a row I ask for the odds of having him play 1.e4 (he's been a d4 player for a number of years now) and I run the patzer variation to where I win almost half of all of our games. It serves mostly as a transpositional tool for reaching the kind of active Caro positions the Scandinavian with ...Qa5 bears with the exception that white's KB ends up on e2 instead of the more active c4 square. 4.Be2 is the best way to answer the early queen check. Second best is 4.Ne2 and the final legal move 4.Qe2 is the weakest. It is playable in blitz games but why trade queens so early with the white pieces? I noticed in the game you listed black missed the opportunity to hit the hanging c pawn with ...Bf5; e.g., 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+ 4.Qe2?! Qxe2+ 5.Nxe2 (or Bxe2) and now 5...Bf5 will force a concession. since white pretty much has to play d3 (bad since white would rather play d4 grabbing more of the center and opening up the f1-a6 diagonal), black can continue developing with ...Nc6 ...0-0-0 ...e5 followed by perhaps ...Kb8 and ...Bc8 with a good game. I will summarize the patzer variation by letting you all know that you should probably just avoid it with 3.Nf3! It is has better statistics in all databases which makes sense to me since from here I just end up transposing into ...Qa5 lines where I am not so happy. I delved into ...Qa6, which is probably black's best reply (is it the main line yet?); although, I have run into some problems and need to book up on it before I can bring it back for real. When I do, I will most likely hang up the patzer variation. IM Martin and IM Silman analyzed the variation with significant depth but missed a line that gives white a clear advantage in the Be2 line after white unveils a nasty TN zwishenzwug. Good luck finding it! |
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| Jul-26-05 | | refutor: any disadvantage to playing the blackmar-diemer after 1.e4 d5 2.d4 as opposed to 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.e4 (for instance) |
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| Aug-04-05 | | Double O Seven: Anybody know anything about this line?
1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.d4 Nf6 |
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| Aug-05-05 | | MUG: <WMD> and <Chessical>. Thanks for your responses to my earlier question. <refutor> The only disadvantage I can see is that after 1.e4 d5 2.d4 exd4 Black simply has more freedom to dictate the course of the game because, although to continue with 3.Nc3 Nf6 is probably best, he/she can also play the adventurous 3.Nc3 e5, or transpose into a solid Caro-Kann with 3.Nc3 c6. <Double O Seven> A no risk, no frills variation of the Scandinavian. 3...Qd8 4.d4 Nf6 is a solid and underestimated opening in my opinion. Careful play and sound development should lead to quick equality for black. Jonkman vs A Kogan, 2001
J Martos vs Karpov, 1997
Adams has also used this variation to gain good draws against Svidler and Leko, so it can't be bad! |
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| Aug-06-05 | | Samba: Hey, first post (here we go):
I like to play the scandinavian. It fits quite well in my style of play. I played recently this game at fics against a little bit stronger player than me. I think it went quite well... ;) 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. c4 Qd6 5. Nc3 c6 6. d4 Bf5 7. Bd3 Bg6 8. Bxg6 hxg6 9. O-O e6 10. Re1 Be7 11. Be3 Nbd7 12. b3 O-O-O 13. Qc2 Rh5 14. Rad1 Rdh8 15. h3 Ng4 16. Qe2 Ndf6 17. Ne5 Nxe5 18. dxe5 Qxe5 19. Na4 Bd6 20. f4 Qf5 21. Rxd6 Rxh3 22. Bxa7 Rh1+ 23. Kf2 Ng4+ 24. Kf3 R8h3+ 25. g3 Rxe1 26. Qxe1 Nh2+ 27. Kg2 Rh8 28. Bf2 Qh3+ 29. Kg1 Nf3# 0-1 Note that this was a blitz game with 10 min for both sides. |
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| Aug-07-05 | | SEMENELIN: To use this opening you should be good in openings. Black could be aggressive in the beginning but white could catch up. |
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| Aug-07-05 | | who: If anything I think white is the one who can be aggressive with the extra tempo towards development. |
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| Aug-08-05 | | percyblakeney: <Samba> Your opponent missed Nb6+ followed by Rd7# a couple of times at the end, but on the other hand you could have played 23. ... Qxf4+ and picked up the rook on d6 in the next move, so maybe justice was done after all :-) |
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| Aug-08-05 | | SEMENELIN: <who> could you site an example how white can be aggressive and has good development in this opening?? |
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| Aug-08-05 | | Samba: <percyblakeney>I always miss the simplest moves when I'm in time trouble (both of us had less than a minute in our clock). That just annoys me. :D |
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| Aug-08-05 | | who: <SEMENELIN> The main line according to the opening explorer is. 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bc4 Bf5 7. Bd2 e6 8. Qe2 Bb4 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. a3 Bxc3 11. Bxc3 Qc7 where white has some intitiative and the bishop pair. But my main point was that 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 and white gets to chase the queen. Clearly black has not gained an attack yet. My understanding is that black is claiming that if the pawns are not attacking each other (and black doesn't have any attackable pawns) then in the long run black's position is solid and white's tempo will not be sufficient for an attack. But white's pieces will come out quicker. Especially in the more modern 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 it is clear that black is aiming for equality - not an intiative (though as I said I feel this is true in general in the Scandanavian). |
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| Aug-09-05 | | SEMENELIN: <who> I guess after chasing the queen. Winning the game relies now in the middle game. I think after chasing the queen white equalizes. A mistake in middlegame could be a catastrophe for both sides. I think this opening is suitable for blitz games. |
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| Aug-21-05 | | admeyer: <SEMENELIN> you say white equalizes?! If that is what happens, then this is a great system for black. I personally don't think it is great, but it definitely is good. It is more than suitable for blitz games and 3...Qd6 is catching the eye of many worldclass players these days. |
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| Aug-21-05 | | SEMENELIN: <admeyer> say could you give me a game which has 3. Nc3 Qd6 ?? |
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| Aug-21-05 | | refutor: <SEMENELIN> L Harkes vs Lorne Yee, 2001 or Shirov vs A Romero Holmes, 2002 the first is quite heavily annotated |
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