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Scandinavian (B01)
1 e4 d5

Number of games in database: 17694
Years covered: 1475 to 2025
Overall record:
   White wins 43.4%
   Black wins 28.4%
   Draws 28.2%

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PRACTITIONERS
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Michele Godena  31 games
Sergei Movsesian  30 games
Joseph G Gallagher  26 games
Miguel Munoz Pantoja  109 games
Sergei Tiviakov  107 games
Ian Rogers  82 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Anand vs Lautier, 1997
E Canal vs Horvath, 1934
Steinitz vs A Mongredien, 1862
M Weiss vs Blackburne, 1889
NN vs P Krueger, 1920
Schlechter vs J Mieses, 1909
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Mar-08-09  geniokov: After 1.e4-d5 2.d3?...is that what you mean Sir? Well,after 2.d3-dxe4 3.dxe4-Qxd1 4.Kxd1 will removed White´s priveledges to castle...followed by 4.Nf6 to attack e4 pawn is not good.
Mar-08-09  FiveofSwords: actually, its worse for white than an advance french perhaps, because black has not commited the move e6 so he might not wind up with a 'french bishop'. But still i bet its not the sort of thing black is wanting to play. Its just worth a glance, i personally would never play it becuase i think black might actually be slightly better after the reply c5.
Mar-08-09  FiveofSwords: If it does transpose to an advance french then I wouldnt think its black dictating the cause cause, of course, he played the scandy, not the french heh
Mar-08-09  chessman95: OK, forget about my "reversed french". I didn't even look at it at all. It would be stupid to let black take you queen and deprive you of castling. I think I'll stick to playing the French as black only.
Mar-08-09  geniokov: That makes Sicilian very popular for Black as a reply against e4...Another is Petroff Defense which is also good for Black.
Mar-08-09  chessman95: The Petroff is looking for a draw, but there's almost no chance for a win as black unless white makes a blunder.
Mar-08-09  geniokov: Correct!...so it leaves only one trusted reply against e4 and that is Sicilian...from Hobby player up to Grandmaster level!
Mar-08-09  parisattack: <chessman95: What about a reversed French or CK with 2.d3 or 2.f3? After 2.d3 you could fianchetto you kings-bishop, and then the rest looks pretty safe to me.>

A possible try against the Scandinavian - to avoid the main lines - is 2. Nc3. 2. ...d4 creates a closed game probably not to the liking of most Scan players. 2. ...de:; 3. Ne4: creates a sort of Caro-Kann but with some small nuances. Black can perhaps get ...c5 in a single stroke - but White can develop a bit faster, hold back d4 for awhile. Sometimes it transposes to a C-K, sometimes not - quite a few games with 2. Nc3 worth a look-see.

I have always considered the main line Scan as sort of an accelerated C-K. Faster, but also looser.

Mar-08-09  notyetagm: The latest <New In Chess Yearbook <<<90>>>> discusses a gambit line that Kasparov used to play against the Scandinavian in simuls.

Any idea what this gambit is? Thanks.

http://www.chessvibes.com/advertise...

<– with what gambit did Kasparov combat the Scandinavian in simuls?>

Mar-08-09  parisattack: I'd like to know that,also. (Gambit Kaspy played). I see 5-6 Scans in Simuls, but no gambits...
Mar-08-09  blacksburg: 2.c4 maybe? the only one i can think of is <blackmar-diemer>. one of the strengths of the scandy is the lack of choices that white has.
Mar-08-09  AgentRgent: <geniokov: I´m the White,i have to dictate what must be happen,not according to Black´s plan> This is why I play 1. e4 Nf6... No matter how my opponent responds, I'm virtually certain to know the lines better.

Not that this is particularly relevant to the Scandinavian (Which I often play for fun), but I thought the discussion of opening play in general was worth a comment.

Mar-08-09  geniokov: Oh!Alekhine...Well,that´s another story Sir.
Mar-08-09  chessman95: The Sicilian is good enough for me if I want to 'control' the game, although I can't gaurentee that I know the lines better than my opponent. The nice thing with the Sicilian is that in the main line there are certain 'only' responses, so black is usually the one initiating the variation.
Mar-08-09  notyetagm: <parisattack: I'd like to know that,also. (Gambit Kaspy played). I see 5-6 Scans in Simuls, but no gambits...>

Yes, I checked out the CG.COM database before I posted this question.

I saw Kasparov playing this ♗d2,♗d3 system but that did *not* appear to be the gambit that NIC was talking about.

Mar-08-09  geniokov: What is important in opening is for a person to open where he is comfortable...according to your own style and taste.Remember,it is important to meet your goal "a playable middlegame".
Mar-08-09  chessman95: That's why I play the Sicilian! I like the middlegames, and I pretty much dictate what the opening is.

(Example: after 1.e4 I play 1...c5!, then most people automatically play 2.Nf3 and I play 2...d6!, then again it's almost always 3.d4, and now the line is almost forced: 3...cxd4! 4.Nxd4 4...Nf6! 5.Nc3 and once again I'm the one choosing the variation. So as you can see I get to play my favorite Sicilian variation a lot :)

Mar-08-09  parisattack: <notyetagm: <parisattack: I'd like to know that,also. (Gambit Kaspy played). I see 5-6 Scans in Simuls, but no gambits...> Yes, I checked out the CG.COM database before I posted this question. I saw Kasparov playing this d2,d3 system but that did *not* appear to be the gambit that NIC was talking about.>

Mystery to me! I found a few more on ChessLab, but having trouble on how White gambits the Scandinavian... I'll check the 10 volumes of Secrets of Opening Suprises - they hae some oddities...

Mar-08-09  geniokov: That´s good chessman95...but be aware too if your opponent uses "anti-Sicilian"...have included it in your opening.....Always have a question in yourself "What if..."
Mar-08-09  chessman95: I'm prepared for that. I know the main lines in the Alapin, Closed Sicilian, and minor deviations like the Moscow variation. I find them all annoying but they're easier to beat than the Open Sicilian, although less fun to play. I even know a variation of the Wing Gambit.
Mar-08-09  chessman95: Oh yeah, and I know the Morra Gambit and f4 Sicilian as well. Those are interesting...
Mar-08-09  geniokov: Of all the anti Sicilian lines...i like Smith-Morra Gambit most.
Mar-08-09  notyetagm: <parisattack: ... Mystery to me! I found a few more on ChessLab, but having trouble on how White gambits the Scandinavian... I'll check the 10 volumes of Secrets of Opening Suprises - they hae some oddities...>

Just go buy New In Chess Yearbook 90 and tell us what is says!

:-)

Mar-09-09  FiveofSwords: The petroff and the scandinavian are fairly similar in their approach really. Black refuses to be contained, and simply opens lines rather than accepts the danger of winding up in some passive position where white has a good space advantage. In practice this may draw a lot because opening lines makes exchanges easier. But you can expect to lose against either the petroff or the scandivaian if black is simply playing better than you. So neither opening is necessarily played 'for a draw', its just black recognizing what positions he likes to play and is best in. people with particularly accurate and creative tactical abilities will naturally prefer the more open positions you will get from the petroff or scandinavian.
Mar-09-09  blacksburg: the scandinavian is even better for this purpose than the petroff, IMO. petroff player still has to deal with king's gambit, urusov, vienna, and such.
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