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Feb-22-09 | | WeakSquare: What does C00 apply to? |
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Feb-22-09 | | whiteshark: <WeakSquare> Chessgames Help http://www.365chess.com/eco/C00-C19... |
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Feb-22-09 | | WeakSquare: I know C00 is 1.e4 e6, but which variation does it apply to? French in general, or weird deviations? |
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Feb-22-09 | | whiteshark: I think it every variation after <<1.e4 e6> w/o 2.d4> |
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Feb-22-09 | | whiteshark: but also unusual third white moves like 3.c4 or 3.Be3 |
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Feb-22-09 | | chessman95: According to Wikipedia, the ECO C00 applies to every opening with 1.e4 e6, but without 2.d4, or if 1.e4 e6 2.d4 every variation without 2...d5. |
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Feb-24-09 | | WeakSquare: Well, anyway, the latest Frenchy didnt go well ... |
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Feb-24-09 | | blacksburg: well, kamsky certainly didn't lose because of the opening. |
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Feb-24-09 | | whiteshark: <blacksburg: <well, kamsky certainly didn't lose because of the opening.>> Without doubt! --> Topalov vs Kamsky, 2009 --> French, Tarrasch (C07) |
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Feb-24-09 | | WeakSquare: But, nevertheless, playing Black with an isolated pawn with no counterplay. That's what Kamsky got himself into. 3...Nf6 probably gives more winning chances although I guess he wasn't looking for that... |
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Feb-27-09 | | WhiteRook48: I usually play 2. d4 after 1...e6 |
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Mar-01-09 | | Minty: Anyone here come up against today's opening (the Diemer-Duhm gambit, 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c4?!) in a serious game? I actually played this (as white) a few years ago, in the Hastings weekend congress, although I haven't been desperate enough to try it since. I started the tournament badly, with 2 draws and a loss, all against lower graded opponents, so I decided to go all out for a win with a psycho gambit. Unfortunately for my next opponent, he played the french and wasn't at all prepared for the Diemer-Duhm. I didn't even handle the opening that well, but neither did he, and it turned into a total massacre: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c4 Bb4+ 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. f3 dxe4 6. Qb3 Bxc3+ 7. Qxc3 exf3 8. Nxf3 c6 9. Bd3 O-O 10. O-O h6 11. Be3 Qe7 12. Qd2 Ng4 13. Bf4 f5 14. c5 Qf7 15.Bd6 Rd8 16. h3 Nf6 17. Rae1 Nfd7 18. Bc4 Re8 19. Nh4 Qh5 20. Nxf5 Kh8 21. Rxe6 Nf6 22. Rxe8+ Qxe8 23. Nxh6 Ne4 24. Qf4 Nxd6 25. cxd6 Be6 26. Re1 Qg6 27. Rxe6 1-0 Poor guy. He spent the whole game scratching his head and looking totally bemused, and ended up playing like N.N. on a bad day. |
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Mar-01-09 | | WhiteRook48: I came across that once today, but I cannot prove if it was a serious game |
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Mar-24-09 | | ewan14: Hello
Tarrasch 3... Nf6 4 Bf1d3 etc
Can anyone suggest the best way to meet White playing his king's knight to f3 instead of e2 ( and , as a result , the knight on d2 sometimes going to b3 ) ? Thanks ,
Ewan |
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Mar-24-09 | | chessman95: <ewan14> If you're talking about a line like 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc6 click for larger viewthen the best way to meet the knight to f3 (7.Nf3) is 7...Qb6 and the best way to meet the knight to e2 (7.Ne2) is 7...cxd4. |
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Apr-03-09 | | drukenknight: I often get into what looks like queens indian opening when white plays a N on move 2. I find the game is very slow to open up and usually can make a number of space grabbing pawns moves. Usually as black you tend to castle ASAP so this sort of pawn play is not intuitive for me and maybe not for white either?? You also have to be aware of the N fork on f7 as well which I mess up all the time. The timing of 000 or 00 very important... Here is a wild example with a desperado rook/queens. 1. e4 e6
2. Nc3 Bb4
3. Nce2 Nc6
4. c3 Be7
5. d4 d5
6. e5 b6
7. Nf4 Bb7
8. Nf3 Qd7!? (to prepare 000, position seems murky to the crap pc suggesting different moves but then ultimately giving an even evaluation with moves as played ) 9. Be2 h6 !? (not sure what is best, pc suggests ..Nh6) 10. O-O f6 (10…g5 even more interesting, fantasy line for later discussion) 11. Bd2 fxe5
12. Nxe5 Nxe5
13. dxe5 O-O-O
14. c4 dxc4
15. Be3 Qc6
after 15..Qc6 white to not mess up:
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Apr-04-09 | | chessman95: My guess is 16.Qc2 |
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Apr-04-09 | | drukenknight: I think you are right at least that is what crap pc comes up with. The guy played: 16. Bf3 Rxd1
17 BxQ RxR with check and 0-1; getting the check in first makes all the difference ...just stupid I guess but it helps you when you conceive of desperado combinations. I think there are two ways to look at it: I. My desperado is a B yours is a R, mine is less value so when it's over I will be ahead in material. II. I will grab Q you grab Q, I will get R you a R, so when that's over your B is still en prise. I dunno, maybe just a fun game?? |
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Apr-04-09 | | drukenknight: Oh I almost forgot. Here is the fantasy line with the suggestion of 10...g5: 10…..g5
11. Nh5 O-O-O
12. Qa4 Kb8
13. b3 f6
14. Bb5 a6
after 14...a6 how does it continue?
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Apr-09-09 | | drukenknight: How to spoil a nice game. Hey any of you stupid Q Indian players out there why don’t you just tell me now so I can give you the ½ and spare me the trouble of this: 1. e4 e6 still almost even, but black must play carefully in these cramped positions 2. d4 clearly the most logical to obtain a positional advantage at this pt.. 2… b6?! while the qb is notoriously slow to develop this misguide attempt cannot be recommended as black has conceded space in the center and space elsewhere cannot compensate.. 3. e5! Rarely played but a straightforward and demanding attempt to exploit the gain in space 3…Bb7 forced, unfortunately
4. Nf3!! a novelty that holds the central pawns w/ the N while gaining freedom of action for his other pieces 4… c5? A misguided attempt to open the game at inappropriate time 5. Bg5! a strong move attacking the Q.
5… Bxf3
6. Qxf3 Qxg5
7. Qxa8 Qc1+
8. Ke2 Qxb2
9. Qxb8+ Ke7
10. d5 ½ ½
final position, a sorry state of affairs:
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Jul-28-09 | | muwatalli: what are some of the best gambits for white in the french defense? i've looked at the reti gambit e4 e6 2 b3 d5 3 Bb2!? white gets equality at best unless black makes a serious blunder, the milner barry gambit, and the french wing gambit as well, the games where white gambits the f pawn do not seem all that strong to me either. i still play the milner barry gambit and french wing gambit once in awhile, but are there any other suggestions? thanks in advance. |
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Jul-28-09 | | parisattack: I think the M-B is still a good shot for White. A friend of mine had just finished a mammoth opus on it before his untimely passing in 2007. I try to keep it updated with games but no time to update the various lines. I think 1. e4, e6; 2. d4, d5; 3. e5, c5; 4. Nf3 and gambiting the 'd' pawn is also quite playable. There appear to be improvements for White in the important Keres-Hasenfuss line. "The French player is a breed apart" wrote Evans in MCO 10. I agree - You have to have a certain perspective to allow your entire kingside to get sealed off on the 3rd, 4th or 5th move of the game. |
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Dec-30-09
 | | gezafan: Here's my list of the top French players of all time. 1. Korchnoi
2. Botvinnik
3. Maroczy
4. Petrosian
5. Uhlmann
And the king of the French players is Uhlmann. |
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Dec-30-09 | | MaxxLange: <what are some of the best gambits for white in the french defense> the Milner-Barry Gambit in the Advance Variation
the old Wing Gambit with 1 e4 e6 2 Nf3 d5 3 e5 c5 4 b4!? is worth a look there's a really vicious theoretical line in the Tarrasch where White moves Nf4, gambiting d4, and then wins an exchange |
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Jan-06-10 | | ChessMasta2000: Is karpov any good in this, except caro kan with black?
What u think of winawer good for black in strategic value? French where black sacrifices pawnn white watchout for subtle strategy that turns into tactix fireworx!Can same be done with all semi openings? Give examples otherwise u dont knnow ches! |
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