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Jan-14-04 | | Benjamin Lau: f3 huh? Not the most respect way of meeting the Grunfeld... Btw, does anyone know why this is called the Grunfeld? I heard someone say that Gruenfeld came up with it, but I can't see why the opening is spelled differently than his name. |
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Jan-14-04
 | | tamar: Germans use an umlaut over the "u" to make the double vowel sound. So you see it both ways in English.
The story is that he played it against Alekhine in 1922, won, and Alekhine flung his King across the room. Alekhine vs Gruenfeld, 1922 |
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Jan-14-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Thanks tamar. |
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Feb-27-04 | | 731: well it seems to have lost a lot of popularity since the 30's anyway. |
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Mar-03-04 | | 731: who is Neo and when did he play against Grünfeld? do they mean Keanu? |
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Mar-03-04 | | HSOL: The meaning of Neo is something like new. I think this opening is called Anti-Grünfeld in Swedish. f3 is supposed to discourage the Grünfeld thrust d5. |
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Mar-03-04 | | 731: I know I was just joking, havne't you seen the matrix when neo fights grünfeld to save the world. What does swedish have to do with this defense, are you swedish or are you assuming that I am? |
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Mar-03-04 | | Lawrence: 731, we don't know if you're Swedish but your e-mail address sure is! |
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Mar-03-04 | | 731: clap clap to Lawrence, clap clap!
and yes, Hsol, it's probably called the Anti-Grünfeld in swedish, but I'm not very familiar with Grünfeld terminology. |
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Mar-03-04 | | Lawrence: 731, and you were born the last day of July? |
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Mar-03-04 | | Shadout Mapes: I thought the neo-grunfeld involved g3 by white. |
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Mar-03-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: it usually does. see d71-79 for lines with 3. g3. |
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Mar-06-04 | | 731: <law> No the 73rd day of January actually. |
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Mar-06-04 | | Lawrence: 731, well in case I miss you a week tomorrow, Happy Birthday! |
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Jun-16-04 | | artemis: Just out of curiosity, why is this called the Neo- Gruenfeld. Is the neo some play of modern in that interesting and similar defense? |
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Sep-15-04 | | refutor: the grünfeld proper involved 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 this is the neo-grünfeld because it's an attempt (with 3.g3/f3) to discourage Black from playing ...d5 and go into a King's Indian instead |
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Oct-16-04 | | morphy234: i love playing the Grunfeld as black. |
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Nov-02-04 | | aw1988: The point is 3. f3 can transpose into a KID, but this is not wise due to black's space-grabbing d5. |
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Nov-02-04 | | aw1988: Suprisingly White wins 40.0% Black wins 22.7% |
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Nov-02-04 | | aw1988: Actually, unless I'm very much mistaken... this COULD be a transposition to the nimzo indian... |
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Nov-02-04 | | holierthanthou: In nimzo the bishop is never fianchettoed to g7, also the move ..d5 is more supported, trying to control that square in particular. Playing f3 against the indian openings is often effective. It strenghtens the center, especially the critical e4-square, controls g4 and gives white good chances to possibly play on the K-side. In this system the semiopen d-file gives black good chances in the center, though. High level games with this didn't look too good for white, when looking at the results and a few games more closely. My own experience with this opening, not too many games but against pretty strong opposition, is that white should be active and play on the wings, hunting for the king aggressively, "though" the game will be double-edged. (Oh what a pity :) ) |
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Feb-22-05 | | aw1988: The Exchange variation is undoubtedly most dangerous for black. |
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Sep-27-05 | | Paul123: Jan-14-04
Benjamin Lau: f3 huh? Not the most respect way of meeting the Grunfeld... Btw, does anyone know why this is called the Grunfeld? I heard someone say that Gruenfeld came up with it, but I can't see why the opening is spelled differently than his name. "Benjamin Lau" you sound like you play the Grunfeld
In my current CA data base this var. kills black, Obviously its rep is different than its performace. ??? Or is Black is having difficulty do only to the var infrequent use??? What gives??? |
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Oct-21-05 | | Unicornio: I love to play this grunfeld, one of my favorites. |
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Oct-21-05 | | jamesmaskell: The spelling comes from the fact that normally the e isnt there but instead there is an umlaut (two dots) above the u. |
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