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| Dec-25-01 | | Smartypants: I love this opening, especially the lines where White castles long and storms the black fortress with his pawns.
After the manuever Bg6, g4, h4, h5, hxg6 Black has serious problems. Unfortunately White must spend some prepatory moves to make this possible; often Kb1 is necessary, as is Ng3. |
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| Dec-25-01 | | Smartypants: Why is Ng3 necessary? That seems to just leave the Knight out of play. |
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| Dec-25-01 | | Smartypants: Because, my fine feathered friend, otherwise h4 is well met with h5! |
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| May-06-04 | | rochade18: You could have said that... |
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| May-06-04 | | rochade18: ...with only one message! So the Sämisch is the KID-variation where white can castle longside? |
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| May-25-04 | | Dillinger: yes the idea is often to castle long in conjunction with an exchange of dark square bishops. |
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| Jun-14-04 | | PaulKeres: Can anyone tell me of other openings which often involve castling Queen side (or 'long')? I like the idea of O-O-O, gets boring castling K side all the time. |
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Jun-14-04
 | | Sneaky: I'm with Smartypants, this opening is the "Yugoslav Attack" for d4 players. Two other openings which usually involve O-O-O are: the fiercesome Yugoslav attack against the Sicilian, the boring Staunton Gambit (which I don't recommend--usually White plays O-O-O but with the queens off the board where's the fun?) and the much more interesting Albin Countergambit (Black castles long). |
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| Jun-14-04 | | PaulKeres: Thanks Sneaky. Where did you get that funky devil picture? Is that a members benefit? |
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Jun-14-04
| | Sneaky: Yep it's a premium thing. Membership has it's privileges! |
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Jun-14-04
 | | Gypsy: <PaulKeres: Can anyone tell me of other openings which often involve castling Queen side (or 'long')? I like the idea of O-O-O, gets boring castling K side all the time.> Castling O-O-O, with a K-side attack, is one of the two primary alternatives to minority attack in the exchange variant of QGD. |
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| Jun-14-04 | | Dillinger: It is not uncommon for white to castle long in the classical variation of the Caro Kann defense (since the h pawn advances). |
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| Jun-14-04 | | PinkPanther: <Gypsy>
The French Defense, Caro-Kann Defense, Sicilian Defense, Semi-Slav, Sometimes in the Pirc Defense, sometimes in the Queen's Gambit Declined. |
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Jun-15-04
| | Gypsy: True <PP>. (I can think of others still, e.g., Spanish Exchange, but this should be a good start.) Incidentally, what theme(s) do you have in mind in the Semi-Slav? (Just curious.) |
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| Jun-15-04 | | PinkPanther: <Gypsy>
Namely the Shirov-Shabalov gambit. |
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Jun-15-04
| | Gypsy: <Namely the Shirov-Shabalov gambit.> Thanks <PP>! Can you also give me a pointer to a key-game (or opening moves)? I am fishing for interesting ideas and this definitely perked my curiosity. |
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| Jun-15-04 | | PinkPanther: I'm not sure what you're asking for but if it's a game in which the Shirov-Shablov Gambit was played then: Kasparov vs X3D Fritz, 2003 The move 7.g4 is what constitutes the Shirov-Shabalov gambit. |
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Jun-15-04
| | Gypsy: Thanks <PP>, this does it nicely! |
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| Dec-06-05 | | Waffles: In the mainline panno: 1.d4 nf6 2.c4 g6 3.e4 d6 4.f3 0-0 5.be3 nc6 6.nge2 a6 (I think thats the order) do you guys play Nc1 or H4. H4 is more popular and more aggressive, nc1 is more positional. Any opinions? |
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| Apr-20-07 | | Richerby: Surely, Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 ought to be one of the featured games for the Saemisch variation? |
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| Apr-20-07 | | KingG: <Richerby> It is, but it's under a different ECO code: King's Indian, Samisch, Orthodox, 7.Nge2 c6 (E86) |
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| Mar-12-09 | | FiveofSwords: I play this quite a lot, I transpose the pirc/modern into it usually. I tand to take a very unusual approach which has been very sucessful for me. Rather than spending 2 moves to bring the N to c1, I simply leave my kside knight on g1 for a long time,playing h4 and g4 much mroe quickly if black castles, which also allows the queen to swing to h2 much easier.often the kside knight finds, as the game develops, that h3 becomes a better square than e2. I also often have fun with simply not castling, espceially if black is so scared of my idea with not moving my kside knight and refuses to castle, he often starts immediately trying to work on his qside counterplay rather than castle, but then the funny part is that i simply dont castle, either, and the knight on g1, protectig f3, really seems to repel any aggresive sacrirfical attemps by black to take advantage of my king in the center. |
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| Mar-13-09 | | M.D. Wilson: I love using this opening with white. Spassky was perhaps the greatest exponent of this line. |
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| Mar-13-09 | | Jim Bartle: I like the variation with Qh4 for black followed by the queen sacrice. For black that is. As white I feel totally stifled against black's perfect and complete pawn structure, even if I have captured the black queen at the cost of two minors and two pawns. |
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| Mar-13-09 | | dfelix: Chris Ward's book is a great resource in this opening, and I used to fear the KI before I learned to play a decent Saemisch. I think it's been over two years since I lost the white side of a Saemisch when black plays ..e5. The ..c5 variation is definitely a better option for black, but it's much less common at the club level since the KI aficionados tend to stick with what's familiar. |
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