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|Dec-16-13|| ||MarkFinan: There's some really questionable moves by Karpov throughout this game and he gets soundly and slowly thrashed, but I don't understand 25.kxQ?? I would have thought QxQ was better, although it's of course already over by then. I always liked Kasparov out of any other chess player until Carlsen came along, but id be very surprised if Carlsen is WCC for the same length of time Kasparov was. |
|Mar-02-14|| ||john barleycorn: << Mar-02-14
Premium Chessgames Member by courtesy of John Barleycorn>< LIFE Master AJ>: http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...|
My web page, now completely redone, even the broken links have been fixed.>>
Yes, it is re-done and why not improved?
The name is Saemisch not Samisch.
12.cxb5 was a mistake according to Anand who commented this game. 12.c5 could have been a test for Sxe5.
White actually played 25.Qe4???? in great time trouble. the story was told here already:
<Mar-26-11 azax: I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this, but there's a cool story that goes along with this game too. Karpov had something on the scale of 1 minute on his clock after move 24, and when Kasparov played ...cxd1, he shouted "Queen!" No queen was at hand, so the arbiter ran to get one on Kaspy's time. He hit the clock, and Karpov immediately slammed down Qxe4 (Garry then pointed out that he was in check, and responded with "From what? It might be a bishop on d1."). The clocks were paused, a hissy fit was thrown, and Karpov got an extra two minutes (much good it did him). The entire thing could've been avoided, of course, by 24. ...cxd1(R)+!>
|Apr-28-14|| ||Eusebius: It's a wonderful story. "From what? It might be a bishop on d1". Hahaha. Excellent. Chess history is full of amusing stories.|
|Nov-28-14|| ||MarkFinan: I think this comment belongs to this game? I stole the comment from some anon on social media, if you're reading this mate I apologise.. But you obviously copy and pasted it so I'm not that sorry. ;) I'll post the photo of Kasparov looking shocked when there was no queen to use when he promoted a pawn. His expression is classic Kaspy. |
<<<An unusual situation occurred in a 1993 game between Anatoly Karpov and Garry Kasparov. Karpov was in serious time trouble, with one minute to make 16 moves. In this position, Kasparov captured the rook on d1 with the pawn on c2, and said "Queen!", indicating that the promoted piece was a queen. However, no queen was immediately available. It took some time for the arbiter to come up with a black queen. Kasparov said that if he had been attentive, he would have promoted to a rook, which was available. Kasparov's clock was running while the arbiter was getting a queen, so he started Karpov's clock. Karpov immediately played 25.Qxe4 and Kasparov told him that he was in check. Karpov replied "From what? It might be a bishop on d1." The clocks were stopped. The arbiter found a black queen, the game was backed up to the position after 24...cxd1=Q+, and Karpov was given an extra two minutes on his clock because of Kasparov's illegal move (since starting the opponent's clock signified the completion of his move, which was not possible without a piece to promote to). Kasparov disputes that he made an illegal move. Kasparov soon won the game, however (Kasparov 2010:332).>>>
|Nov-28-14|| ||MarkFinan: https://twitter.com/chessienda/stat...|
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This is the picture that paints the picture!? There wasn't a queen around (? How does that happen? I used to turn a rook upside down!) for Kasparov to promote, thats why Kasparov, the greatest chess player of all time, looks a bit erm....perplexed! A great moment in chess history from Kasparov, Karpov.....Anand and Henry Kissinger! ✌
|Nov-28-14|| ||john barleycorn: Yes. no spare queens there. Don't know the fat guy on the left (besides Anand).
Maybe Kissinger's double for low budget events. Just wondering why the "supersmart" Kasparov did not check the table and the standard material before the game.|
|Nov-29-14|| ||Tabanus: Picture from this game:
|Jun-22-15|| ||RookFile: Karpov was right about the promotion. Making the move correctly was Kaparov's problem. The fact that another queen was not instantly available should have been his problem, not Karpov's.|
|Jul-05-15|| ||SpiritedReposte: More like rated X! Just nasty play from Kasparov.|
|Sep-06-15|| ||whiteshark: <14...b4!> When playing dxe5? it was rumoured that Karpov missed this. Kasparov was more to the point: <"Did he expect me to resign?"> !!|
|Sep-06-15|| ||whiteshark: <Notagm: How about 18Qxb4, not only winning a pawn, but more importantly, putting the Queen on a better square>|
The tactical justification of the second pawn sacrifice is based on hard-to see- moves, <18...c5! 19.Bxc5 Nxc5!>
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which is a -again- puzzle in itself.
|Sep-16-15|| ||Rookiepawn: <Notagm: How about 18Qxb4, not only winning a pawn, but more importantly, putting the Queen on a better square>|
The problem seems to be the lost of control on e3, a jump of the BN there would threaten too many things: the WR on e1 and c2. That's why W tries to get rid of it first with 18. h3.
|Feb-27-16|| ||yurikvelo: 14.f4? - decisive Karpov mistake.
15.Nb1? only shortened lose
full game multiPV: http://pastebin.com/5q9bhvXv
<How about 18Qxb4, not only winning a pawn, but more importantly, putting the Queen on a better square>
18. .. Ne3! and white cannot prevent Nc2+ "fork":
19. Rd2 Nc2+ 20. Rxc2 Rxc2
Black have R vs NP.
Furthemore black force exchange of black Bishop (at a6) for white Rook h1. Estimated is +M39
|Dec-02-17|| ||Saniyat24: One of the best puns, for sure...!|
|Dec-02-17|| ||Saniyat24: ha ha 19.Qg1...only Karpov can think of this...!|
|Dec-02-17|| ||Howard: For the record, Inside Chess stated back in 1989 that Karpov knew "how to use the first rank better than anyone--past or present".|
Whether his 19.Qg1 move is a valid example of that, may be debatable though. But I can recall at least several instances of Karpov making a strong first-rank move.
Game 9 of Karpov-Spassky is a very typical example! Remember how he retreated a knight to b1 in that game ?!
|Dec-02-17|| ||MissScarlett: How about L Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993?|
|Dec-02-17|| ||Howard: You may be overlooking one little thing...it was Christiansen who effectively utilized the first rank in that game---it certainly wasn't Karpov!|
|Dec-02-17|| ||MissScarlett: You may be overlooking one little thing - irony.|
|Dec-20-17|| ||Penguincw: Interesting event in this game, and it turned into a <cg> Holiday Puzzle clue:|
< " ... In this game Kasparov intended to play 24...cxd1=Q+ — but without a second queen handy, he pointed to the black pawn and said "Ferz!" (Russian for the queen chess piece). According to some accounts, Karpov then cheekily played QxN, pointing to the pawn and saying "Slon!" (Russian for elephant, i.e. bishop). The clocks were stopped, and an arbiter quickly located a second queen. Karpov was given an extra two minutes as Kasparov's play was a technical infraction, but Kasparov won in a few more moves." >
|Dec-21-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Kasparov's play was not an infraction, though. It just makes clear that the FIDE are a bunch of jerks for not supplying a second Queen during a WCC.|
Let's say Brasil plays the final against Germany, and they have to wait for a second ball for a while, when something happens to the ball in play.
It's completely ridiculous.
|Dec-21-17|| ||Olavi: <WorstPlayerEver: It just makes clear that the FIDE are a bunch of jerks for not supplying a second Queen during a WCC.>|
When did the FIDE do that?
|Dec-21-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <Olavi>
I was kidding. Karpov had muffled the second Queen just after he realized what was going to happen.
|Dec-21-17|| ||Olavi: That's better ;-)|
|Sep-07-18|| ||Caleb554: leka: I think you are not correct in your comparison of today's crop of players to that of older generations.|
Radjabov beat Kasparov when he was 15 or 16. Carlsen drew with Kasparov and was seriously pressing him in a rapid game when he was 13. Computers have bought a lot more new possibilities into chess and the current generation of players are strongest ever because of that.
Carlsen,Giri, Caruana, So, Nakamura, Grischuk, Karjakin etc became grandmasters at a very young age ranging from 12-15. They were beating grand-masters before they got into their teens. Computers have made it possible to learn all the chess theory and strategy very very quickly. Something one got after decades of serious study is now readily accessible to all. In that sense Capa, Kasparov or Lasker or not stronger than today's players.
Even if they study and work very hard, I think they all would be rated in between 2750-2800, and it all depends on over the board play. It is not because they are not talented, but because chess players today, can see and understand 100's of positions within a few hours, can try many different opening ideas. In the good old days, people studied a position for lot more hours and days.
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