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Nov-03-05
 | | tpstar: <TheAlchemist> I was surprised it wasn't more negative (so to speak) since White gets 2N&P versus Q. I'm guessing White's space advantage on the Kingside gives compensation, plus the advanced Pf6, also Black's lack of development. The above shows one huge drawback of computer analysis = no human would play 15 ... b6 and then play 16 ... b5, therefore you could omit #2 altogether. I do think 14 ... Bf8 is better than 14 ... Bd8 by defending the g7 entry point (especially since you planned 15. Rhg1), but also allowing ... 0-0-0 if desired. I'd be concerned that Black's Queenside Pawn storm would trump any attack you might get against Black's King, and the Queen is a potent attacker over there. Good luck with it. =) |
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| Dec-30-05 | | BaranDuin: Lately I was able to do an interesting piece sacrifice after 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6 6 Bg5 e6
7 f4 Be7 8 Qf3 Qc7 9 0-0-0 Nbd7 10.g4 b5 11.Bxf6 Nxf6 12.g5 Nd7 13.f5 Pc5 (The first new move for me, I was prepared for Bxg5+) 14. h4 (Probably f6 was better) b4 
click for larger view(Pushing away the knight and slowing white 's attack considerably it seemed to me, but after 5 minutes of thought(it was a rapid game) I found : ... fxe6 15. bxc3 I lost the game because I played badly (The fact that my opponent outrated me with more than 500 points played also a role). |
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| Dec-30-05 | | azaris: <BaranDuin> I suppose Black can't be allowed to pry open the b-file, so White must continue with 16. Qxf7+ Kd8 17. b3 Nxe4 18. Bg2 Bb7 19. Bxe4 Bxe4 20. Qxg7 Re8. I'm not sure if there is enough comp. |
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| Dec-30-05 | | JustAFish: <RonB52734> If it's any consolation, I played the exact same game during my trevails with the Najdorf about a year ago. |
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| Dec-30-05 | | BaranDuin: <Azaris> I played Qxf7+ but now i think exf7+ is better. After for example ... Kf8 17.Qxc3 Kxf7 18. Bc4+ Ke8 19. Bd5 Bb7 20. Bxb7 Qxb7 21. Nf5... White has a very goed position. |
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| Dec-30-05 | | AdrianP: <Baranduin> I'm not sure about Kxf7 in your line, allowing White to develop the attack with tempo. I think Black needs to leave the pawn there for the time being to provide some protection for his king. |
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| Feb-22-06 | | waddayaplay: Play qxf7 Qxg7, bh3, and what can black do?
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Apr-06-06
 | | WTHarvey: Here is a collection of puzzles taken from miniatures of the Najdorf, Main Line (ECO B99): http://www.wtharvey.com/b99.html |
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| Nov-10-06 | | soughzin: Can anyone with a little experience in this line help explain the differences in the 7th move options for black? I've looked into b5 already and see the unique motives there but I'm wondering about Be7,Nbd7 and Qc7. Thanks |
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| Nov-11-06 | | Kean: good question. i dont know about b5, but i like qc7 for it switches the q, from the file of the white rook down there to the c-file. there she fortifies e5 & c4. then b5 could be played, bb7 and the bishop has a good diagonal, straight to the white q; nb6-c4 & the kt is supported by the q & b5. also the q is eyeing c2 & now any rook can go to c8, strengthening the pressure along the file. hey the najdorf is great! |
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| Nov-11-06 | | Stanley Yee: Look up "Mastering the Najdorf" by Arizmendi & Moreno on Amazon.com which favours 7...Qc7 or 7...Nbd7 as they both cover the e5 square, although there is certainly nothing wrong with the solid 7...Be7. Read the book reviews. There is so much material out there on the Najdorf that a repertoire book is about all the memory can handle, and this book is excellent. |
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| Dec-26-06 | | AdrianP: <Soughzin>
A quick summary:-
(1) 7. ...Qb6 is the poisoned pawn, which is the main reason why most White players have moved onto 6. Be3 rather than 6. Bg5. It's been more or less analysed to a draw. See Vallejo Pons v Kasparov, Linares 2004 1/2-1/2 for one of the main lines. Both sides really need to know their stuff to avoid losing - as a generalisation, White needs to keep sacrificing material and Black needs to keep finding only moves. (2) 7. ...b5 is the Polugaevsky variation which is just as hair-raising as the poisoned pawn. There has been no 'refutation' of 7. ...b5, but its popularity has dropped off. (3) 7. ...Be7 is the (old) main line, followed by 8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 and then either 10. g4 or 10. Bd3. There's a huge amount of theory including lots of interesting sacs and still some new ideas, but Black seems to hold his own. (4) 7. ...Nbd7 is similar to 7. ...Be7 and can transpose. It's a favourite of Gelfand's and the main point is to control e5 asap and maybe save a tempo if the bishop is more comfortable staying on f8. Again, there's lots of theory. Gelfand beat off Carlsen, Radjabov and Nakamura in succession in recent times in this line. 7. ...Qc7 is also OK and tends to transpose.
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Mar-18-07
 | | TheAlchemist: It's a few months old now, I forgot to post it back then, here's my only attempt so far, which failed miserably. I tried to fight, tried with some tricks, but I was playing against a much better opponent, who played superbly: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O Nbd7 10.Bd3 h6 11.Bh4 g5 12.fxg5 Ne5 13.gxf6 Nxf3 14.gxf3 Bf8 15.Rhg1 (<Azarov-Predojevic, Torino 2006 went: 15.f4 Bd7 16.f5 O-O-O 17.Kb1 Kb8 18.fxe6 fxe6 19.Rhg1 Bc8 20.e5 dxe5 21.Nf3 Bc5 22.Rg7 Qb6 23.f7 Bb4 24.Nd2 Bxc3 25. Nc4 e4 26.Nxb6 Bxg7 27.Bxd8 Rxd8 1/2-1/2, while Brenjo-Ardeleanu, Backa Palanka 2002, went: 15.Rhg1 Bd7 16.f4 Qc5 17.Nce2 O-O-O 18.Rg7 e5 19.Nf5 Bxf5 20.exf5 Qe3+ 21.Kb1 exf4 22.Bc4 Qh3 23.Bf2 Qxf5 24.Bd5 Kb8 25.Rxf7 1-0>) Bd7 16.f4 Qc5 17.Be2 b5 18.a3 Rb8 19.f5 (<I think this was the critical moment for me in the game. Here, I considered 19.Rg3, 19.Rd3, 19.Kb1 or 19.Rg2 as well, but in the end I went for the wildest one. It was a hard decision, maybe I went wrong, but other moves probably don't help in the long run.>) b4 20.axb4 Qxb4 21.Nxe6 Bxe6 22.fxe6 fxe6 23.f7+ Kd7 24.Bxa6 Rh7 25.Rgf1 Qxb2+ 26.Kd2 Qb4 27.Bd3 (<I think it was around here that I was getting desperate, but I decided to try and hold on, come what may>) Bg7 28.Bf6 Bxf6 29.Rxf6 Rf8 30.Rb1 Qd4 31.Rb7+ Kc8 32.Rc7+ Kb8 33.Rf1 Qe5 34.Nb5 Rg7 35.Rc6 Kb7 36.Rc7+ Kb6 0-1 |
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Apr-21-07
| | TheAlchemist: I just finished this, again I perished in style :-)
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O Nbd7 10.Bd3 h6 11.Bh4 g5 12.fxg5 Ne5 13.gxf6 Nxf3 14.gxf3 Bf8 15.Rhg1 Bd7 16.f4 d5 17.e5 O-O-O 18.Be2 Kb8 19.Bh5 Bc8 20.Rd3 Rh7 21.a3 Bd7 22.f5 exf5 23.Nxd5 Qc5 24.Ne7 Ba4 25.Bd1 Bxe7 26.fxe7 Rc8 27.Bf6 Re8 28.Rg2 Rxe7 29.Bxe7 Qxe7 30.Nxf5 Qxe5 31.Rg8+ Ka7 32.Nd6 Bd7 33.Bf3 Rg7 34.Rxg7 Qxg7 35.Bxb7 Qg1+ 36.Rd1 Qxh2 0-1 Perhaps I should give up, but I'm not, maybe only players that are very good play the h6-g5 line. |
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| Mar-09-10 | | rapidcitychess: What about the Goteborg? Instead of Qc7 you play h6 followed by g5. It is a blasting Kingside gambit! How do you play this line? |
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| Mar-09-10 | | Shams: <rapidcitychess> very carefully. |
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| Mar-10-10 | | rapidcitychess: <Shams>
The main lines and strategies would be much more useful. |
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| Mar-10-10 | | Shams: <rapidcitychess> Sure, I understand. I think you'll find people can be quite helpful. I know a little bit about the line and would be happy to share. But Mohammed's gotta come to the mountain, you know? You've been a member for five weeks and I don't know how serious you are. Best to do a little work and then ask a question that shows you've given at least a modicum of thought. The basic ideas behind the Gothenburg are quite simple, and can be found on many webpages and, likely, youtube videos. Post some lines (with FEN diagrams if you please) and specific questions and we'll be happy to help. Sound good? Then we know you're for real. |
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| Mar-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: <Shams> Sure.
<1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6 6 Bg5 e6 7 f4 Be7 8 Qf4 Nbd7 9 O-O-O h6 10 Bh4 g5!?>
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| Mar-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: The Questions are : What are the main lines? What compensation does black have? How does white deal with this? |
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| Mar-11-10 | | Shams: <rapidcitychess><(Sidenote I am a Christian)> I'll refrain from further aphorisms drawn from the Saracens, how about that? I think that you have confused two similar lines in the Najdorf. The FEN you have shown looks more typical of a Browne variation, though usually the moves Bd3 and …Qc7 are thrown in before black expands on the kingside. From your diagram 11.fxg5 is met by …Ne5 hitting the queen; next black's Nf6 will usually hop to g4 and black plays to recover his pawn on g5. The variations are very complicated and I'm not au courant enough to say much more. The famous Gothenburg line involves a quicker …h6 and …g5 where the after fxg5 black's king knight drops back to d7, still exploiting the pin on the g5 pawn but from another angle. Obviously the d7 square must not be occupied by the queen knight for the king knight to drop back there. Anyway, the difference is that in this position: 
click for larger viewWhite can (and, if he wants any advantage, should) snap right away here: 11. Nxe6 fxe6 12.Qh5+ Kf8. On the day of the famous "massacre" (USSR v. Argentina, WTC 1955) Najdorf had prepared this crazy line as a surprise weapon against the Soviets. I think three of the Soviet boards played right into it. All reached above position, at which point two of them left the boards, not to return until they saw how Kotov, their best opening theoretician, handled the position. After a long think here: 
click for larger view…Kotov banged out 13.Bb5! And his compatriots followed suit. Black was crushed on all boards. But years later Bobby found 13…Rh7! and it's a game again. As far as I know black is still just hanging on here. Good luck, you'll learn a lot about defense holding that. So, why 13.Bb5!<?> Well, clearly the bishop is immune from immediate capture due to the threat of 14.0-0 mating, but why put it en prise to begin with? The answer is to eventually trade a knight on d7. Black's kingside defense demands at least one knight. |
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| Mar-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: <Shams>
Thank you.
Still, if white keeps going with Gxh6 what then? |
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| Mar-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: Whoops! |
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| Mar-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: Why Bxe6? |
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| Mar-11-10 | | Shams: I'm confused. A move isn't a move unless it has a move number next to it. Come on now, you should put in more work than your interlocutor. :) |
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