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Raymond Keene
Keene 
Photograph copyright (c) 2003 Bo Zaunders
courtesy of keeneonchess.com.
 

Number of games in database: 1,909
Years covered: 1960 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2455
Highest rating achieved in database: 2510
Overall record: +1018 -180 =665 (72.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 46 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Reti System (148) 
    A04 A05 A06
 King's Indian (119) 
    E62 E80 E63 E69 E94
 English (73) 
    A15 A13 A14 A16 A12
 Nimzo Indian (72) 
    E30 E41 E42 E49 E26
 Grunfeld (53) 
    D91 D85 D79 D74 D76
 Queen's Gambit Declined (49) 
    D31 D35 D37 D30 D06
With the Black pieces:
 Robatsch (121) 
    B06
 Sicilian (113) 
    B32 B22 B25 B30 B78
 Pirc (99) 
    B09 B08 B07
 King's Indian (69) 
    E83 E73 E94 E62 E92
 French Defense (58) 
    C18 C05 C00 C02 C09
 Queen's Pawn Game (56) 
    A45 A40 A41 A50 D02
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Keene vs Miles, 1976 1-0
   S J Hutchings vs Keene, 1973 0-1
   Keene vs V Kovacevic, 1973 1-0
   Keene vs Robatsch, 1971 1-0
   Keene vs E Fielder, 1964 1-0
   Keene vs Briant, 1988 1-0
   M Basman vs Keene, 1981 0-1
   Keene vs S Kerr, 1979 1-0
   E Jimenez Zerquera vs Keene, 1974 0-1
   Keene vs J N Sugden, 1961 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Strasbourg Open (1973)
   British Championship (1971)
   Lugano Olympiad qual-1 (1968)
   Slater Young Masters (1968)
   5th Lloyds Bank Masters Open (1981)
   Capablanca Memorial-B (1974)
   Alicante (1977)
   Sydney IM (1979)
   Hanover (1976)
   Hastings 1968/69 (1968)
   Esbjerg (1981)
   Commonwealth Championship (1983)
   Stevenson Memorial (1965)
   British Championship (1982)
   Reykjavik (1976)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 46 by 0ZeR0
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 45 by 0ZeR0
   50 K Players of Yesteryear by fredthebear
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by rpn4
   ANNOTATED+ GAMES by Patca63
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by gambitfan
   ANNOTATED+ GAMES by kafkafan
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by Rickdudester
   franskfranz's 1. Nf3 by franskfranz

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KEENE: [what is this?]
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Kramnik vs Leko, 2004
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 2006
   >> 406 GAMES ANNOTATED BY KEENE

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RAYMOND KEENE
(born Jan-29-1948, 77 years old) United Kingdom

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Raymond Denis Keene won the British Chess Championship in 1971, and was the first player from England to earn a Grandmaster norm, in 1974. In 1976 he became the second Englishman (following Tony Miles) to be awarded the Grandmaster title, and he was the second British chess player to beat an incumbent World Chess Champion (following Jonathan Penrose's defeat of Mikhail Tal in 1960). He represented England in eight Chess Olympiads.

Keene retired from competitive play in 1986 at the age of thirty-eight, and is now better known as a chess organiser, columnist and author. He was involved in organising the 1986, 1993 and 2000 World Chess Championships; and the 1997, 1998 and 1999 Mind Sports Olympiads; all held in London. Keene was the chess correspondent of The Times from 1985 to November 2019, and is a prolific author, having written over 100 books on chess. He was appointed an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) for services to chess in 1985.

Keene is a controversial figure in the chess world. He has been accused of plagiarism, and his business dealings and the quality of his chess books, columns and articles have also been criticised.

Chess career
Keene won the London and British Under 18 Championships (shared with Brian Denman) in 1964, and represented England at the 1965 and 1967 World Junior Chess Championships, held in Barcelona and Jerusalem respectively. At the latter event he took the silver medal, finishing behind Julio Kaplan. He was educated at Dulwich College and Trinity College, Cambridge (where he studied modern languages and graduated with an MA). Keene wrote his first chess book whilst studying at Cambridge, and won the British Chess Championship at Blackpool 1971. As a result, he was awarded the International Master title in 1972, the first English player to achieve this since Jonathan Penrose in 1961. In 1974, Keene married Annette, the sister of International Master David S. Goodman. They have one son, Alexander, born in 1991.

Keene was the second British player to meet the necessary requirements to become a Grandmaster. He was pipped to the post by a few months by Tony Miles, the first British Grandmaster in 1976. Both he and Miles won financial prizes for this feat.

Miles and Keene were at the forefront of the English chess explosion of the next 20 years, and they were followed by other British grandmasters such as Michael Stean, John Nunn, Jon Speelman and Jonathan Mestel.

Keene represented England for nearly two decades in international team events, beginning with the 1966 Chess Olympiad in Havana at age 18. He followed with the next seven straight Olympiads: Lugano 1968, Siegen 1970, Skopje 1972, Nice 1974, Haifa 1976, Buenos Aires 1978, and La Valletta 1980. His individual performances at Lugano and Haifa merited bronze medals (although individual medals were not, in fact, awarded at Haifa) and he was undefeated in three Olympiads – these two and Siegen. His later performances, though, were less impressive, with just two draws from four games at Buenos Aires and losses in both his games at La Valletta.

He represented England four times at the Students' Olympiad (Örebro 1966, Harrachov 1967, Ybbs 1968 and Dresden 1969) and four times at the European Team Championships (Bath 1973, Moscow 1977, Skara 1980 and Plovdiv 1983). At Skara he won both a bronze medal with the team and the individual gold medal for the best score on his board.

Keene won the 1971 British championship and shared second place on three occasions, in 1968, 1970 and 1972. His tournament victories include Hastings Challengers 1966, Slater Challenge Southend 1968, Johannesburg 1973, Woolacombe 1973, Capablanca Memorial (Master Group) 1974, Alicante 1977, Sydney 1979, Dortmund 1980, Barcelona 1980, Lloyds Bank Masters 1981, Adelaide 1983 and La Valletta 1985.

Playing style
Keene's playing style tended toward the strategically original and positional. Strongly influenced by Aron Nimzowitsch and Richard Réti, he accordingly preferred hypermodern openings such as the Modern Defence, Nimzo-Indian Defence and King's Indian Defence.

Chess-related work

Organiser
Keene worked as a chess event organiser. He was the originator and organiser of the annual Staunton memorial chess tournaments, one of the few regular events for masters held in London. The Oxford Companion comments: "By a combination of ability and shrewdness, Keene has attracted considerable sponsorship and has proved himself capable of efficient and rapid organisation of chess events".p196

Keene brought Victor Korchnoi and Garry Kasparov together for their 1983 Candidates' semi-final match in London as part of the 1984 World Championship cycle; the semi-final match between Vasily Smyslov and Zoltán Ribli was also played at the same site. He organised the 1984 Russia (USSR) vs Rest of the World match in London within two weeks, enabling the event to go ahead on time after the previous plans had fallen through, described by John Nunn as "a magnificent organisational achievement at such short notice."

Keene has also been involved in organising several World Championship finals matches. He arranged for the first half of the World Chess Championship 1986 return match between Kasparov and Karpov in London. The match, however, made a loss for the British Chess Federation (BCF) and, for reasons never clarified, he resigned from his position in the BCF shortly afterwards. He organised the 1993 PCA World Championship match between Kasparov and Nigel Short in London, for which he was one of the official commentators along with Grandmasters Jonathan Speelman and Daniel King. He was the instrumental force behind 'Brain Games', which organized the World Championship match in 2000 between Kasparov and Vladimir Kramnik. Following the match, however, he retained the trophy in lieu of money he believed he was owed by the collapse of Brain Games: Kramnik did not receive it until 2008. Brain Games later collapsed in controversial circumstances.

Columnist
Keene became the chess columnist of The Spectator in March 1977. His column was terminated in September 2019, when he was replaced by Luke McShane. Following the retirement of Harry Golombek, Keene was appointed the chess correspondent of The Times in 1985. In November 2019 he was replaced by David Howell. In December 1996 he became the chess columnist of the Sunday Times. In August 2017 he was replaced by David Howell.

Television personality
Keene has appeared on television. He covered the world championships of 1981, 1985, 1986, 1990, 1993, and 1995 for BBC 2, CHANNEL 4, and Thames TV. In the "Duels of the Mind" series which aired on the UK ITV network, Keene, along with South African author and civil rights campaigner Donald Woods, discussed and analysed what Keene regarded as the twelve best chess games ever played.

Magazine editor
From 1978 to 1982, Keene was the editor of Modern Chess Theory, a magazine on openings which included contributions from the Soviet world champions Mikhail Botvinnik, Vasily Smyslov, and Mikhail Tal.

Author
Keene claims to be "the author of 140 books on chess". He was the Chess Advisor to Batsford. His early books such as Howard Staunton (1975, with R. N. Coles) often dealt with players with styles similar to his own. Aron Nimzowitsch: a Reappraisal (1974) is much admired and was revised and translated into Russian in 1986,1 with an algebraic edition published in English in 1999. In 1989, he and Nathan Divinsky wrote Warriors of the Mind, an attempt to determine the 64 best chess players of all time. The statistical methods used have not met with wide approval, but the player biographies and games were regarded by one book as providing a good overviewbut also incurred criticism for inaccuracy. Much of Keene's later work has attracted criticism for sloppiness, plagiarism and the habit of copying passages, including errors, from one book to another.

Controversies
Allegations of plagiarism
Keene has on several occasions been accused of plagiarism. In 1993 John Donaldson accused Keene of committing plagiarism in The Complete Book of Gambits (Batsford, 1992). Donaldson wrote "Just how blatant was the plagiarism? Virtually every word and variation in the four and a half pages devoted to Lisitsin's Gambit in Keene's book was stolen." After Keene refused to pay Donaldson a requested $200 for the use of his material, Keene's American publisher Henry Holt and Company ended up paying Donaldson $3,000.

In 2008, Keene was accused of plagiarising a column by Edward Winter for a piece published in The Spectator and subsequently on the website Chessville and on page 129 of his book The Official Biography of Tony Buzan. More than a third of the article was taken directly from Winter's column.

In 2013, Winter reflected on plagiarism in chess: "a particularly sordid corner of the chess world which will never be eradicated without maximum public exposure". He went on: "The latest instance is the discovery by Justin Horton that material from the first volume of Kasparov's My Great Predecessors series has been misappropriated by Raymond Keene in The Spectator."

Private Eye describes the plagiarism as involving "substantial amounts of text lifted from chess books, mainly Kasparov's but also other authors". One case involves Keene's notes to a game between Garry Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov, which he annotated for The Times on 8 December 2011 and The Spectator on 5 January 2013.

These alleged plagiarisms, which Edward Winter calls "eye-popping" are catalogued at "a convenient 'plagiarism index' which is being kept updated".

Tony Miles
In 1985, Keene received £1,178 from the BCF for being Tony Miles' second at the Interzonal in Tunis; however, he had not actually been Miles' second but accepted the money and shared it with Miles. Miles had initially agreed to this plan but eventually told the BCF about it in 1987. Two months later, Keene resigned his posts as BCF Publicity Director and FIDE delegate. Keene said that his resignation was for different reasons, and that he was "furious" at his treatment after organising numerous events from 1983 to 1987.

Brain Games Network
In 2000, Keene's former brother-in-law David Levy accused him of deceiving the directors of their company Mind Sports Olympiad Ltd (MSO) by setting up a rival company, Brain Games Network plc (BGN), without their knowledge and using £50,000 of MSO Ltd money to do so. Levy further alleged that Keene changed his story several times as to the purpose of the payment and the reasons why the new company had been set up. He complained that shares in the new company were held by Keene and an associate (Don Morris) but not by the company for which they had been supposed to be working, nor any of its directors other than themselves. Levy wrote:

As one would expect, our original investors were equally astounded at the news and extremely angry at Keene. They had by now invested £1.5 million (approximately $2.25 million at that time) partly or largely on the basis of their faith in Keene and myself. Now they had learned that one of their two key consultants, the one with money-raising skills, had been working to set up a rival company.

Nothing, however, was proven against Keene (who had swiftly paid an identical sum, i.e. £50,000 to MSO, making the subsequent explanation that this constituted a personal loan from himself) and his new company went on to organise the world championship match later that same year. (It was at this time that Private Eye started referring to him as "The Penguin", a nickname he had first acquired in 1966.)

Levy further criticised Keene for selling three of his own companies to BGN for £220,000 despite their being "virtually worthless". The three companies had between them "a total capital and reserves of only £2,300". At much the same time, according to Levy, BGN purchased a web site and two domain names from Chess and Bridge Limited. However, they made the purchase in two stages. The first of these stages was its sale to Giloberg Finance Limited, owned by Keene's associate Alan Lubin: the second was the immediate sale of the same items, by Giloberg, to BGN. The first sale was for approximately £60,000 (in fact $100,000) and the second was for £290,000, hence making Giloberg "an instant profit of approximately £230,000" and raising the question of why BGN should have paid a sum much greater than the original vendors considered the items were worth.

BGN collapsed in controversial circumstances. Shareholders were unhappy that sums amounting to at least £675,000 had been paid to directors in "fees and payments" despite the company swiftly becoming insolvent. Investors were also unhappy that Keene and Lubin had acquired 88% of the company "for a song" even though the remaining 12% had been sold for around £3 million.

During the course of the 2000 Braingames World Championship Keene was accused of heavy-handed behaviour in having journalist John Henderson removed from the press room with the assistance of bouncers.

Korchnoi
Viktor Korchnoi alleged that when acting as his second in the 1978 World Championship match, Keene broke his contract by writing a book about the match (which appeared three days after the match finished) having specifically signed an agreement "not to write, compile or help to write or compile any book during the course of the match". Korchnoi commented: "Mr Keene betrayed me. He violated the contract. It was clear that while Mr Keene was writing one book and then another, Mr Stean was doing his work for him."

Attempts to defend Keene were rebutted by Michael Stean's mother, who stated that she was in a position to know what was in Keene's contract since she herself had typed it. Keene, she claimed, had signed this despite having already negotiated a contract with Batsford to write a book about the match. She described "a premeditated and deliberate plan to deceive" and noted that Keene's conduct had come under suspicion during the match.

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. N Totton vs Keene 0-1381960Bromley tourneyE00 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Keene vs J N Sugden  1-0241960Match game 8B90 Sicilian, Najdorf
3. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261960Dulwich CollegeA12 English with b3
4. H T Jones vs Keene  0-1241960Exhibition gameC55 Two Knights Defense
5. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0191960Dulwich CollegeB98 Sicilian, Najdorf
6. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1481960MatchD22 Queen's Gambit Accepted
7. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1341960MatchD22 Queen's Gambit Accepted
8. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1311960MatchC16 French, Winawer
9. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261960Match game, ClaphamA12 English with b3
10. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0281960Match game 1, ClaphamB23 Sicilian, Closed
11. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261961MatchD47 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
12. Keene vs L Bauer  1-0271961Clapham Common CCA70 Benoni, Classical with 7.Nf3
13. S Leff vs Keene 0-1361961Clapham Common CCA20 English
14. J N Sugden vs Keene 1-0261961MatchA55 Old Indian, Main line
15. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0341961Match game 21, Dulwich CollegeA17 English
16. J Regruto vs Keene  0-1331961Clapham Common CC ChampsA47 Queen's Indian
17. T D Baldwin vs Keene  0-1351961Olympia ExhibitionC17 French, Winawer, Advance
18. G K Sandiford vs Keene 0-1271961Dulwich CollegeB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
19. A Ogus vs Keene  ½-½371961School matchC18 French, Winawer
20. G K Sandiford vs Keene  0-1521961Match, game 5B16 Caro-Kann, Bronstein-Larsen Variation
21. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0351961OlympiaA67 Benoni, Taimanov Variation
22. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1301961Match game 6, BeckenhamE40 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3
23. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0251961Match game 6, Bognor RegisD43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
24. Keene vs Orly 1-0101961Clapham Common CCB02 Alekhine's Defense
25. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1291961MatchE40 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3
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Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <ray keene: i must say i am continuing to be impressed by the very high and thoughtful standard of comment on this site...>

Absolutely - especially since many Kibitzers are writing with English as a foreign language. I am really impressed!

Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <eggman> usually it is the difference in desire to succeed. i have written a book on the nature of genius-that is genius per se-not just in chess-and the study shows that the most important feature in relative degrees of success is motivation. for example some very strong players impress me as having quite deficient strategic skills yet compensate for this by a fierce will to win.we also ranked the geniuses we had chosen and leonardo da vinci came out top.goethe and shakespeare were also very high.
Sep-23-04  francescog: <Gypsy> you are right. I did not even cite that issue because I feared it would have obscured an already obscure matter. Clearly Poincare's recurrence theorem and Boltzmann's H theorem (and Gibbs' ensembles) are fundamental. But the most important point is that we are not talking about religious beliefs! =)

I always find your comments interesting, <Gypsy>. I wonder what is your work? In many occasions you made some physics statement...

Francesco

Sep-23-04  Willem Wallekers: <I am a right-wing conservative Republican.> I don't want to know any kibitzer's political or religious views.
Sep-23-04  Marco65: <Gypsy> <francescog> It is not possible for all molecules of air in my room to go all in one direction. But it is possible that half exit from the door to my right, and half from the window on my left, although yes, this is... cough... very unlikely... cough... gasp... aaaaarrghhh!!
Sep-23-04  francescog: <Marco65> your fault, keeping both the door and the window open means looking for troubles!!

Francesco

Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  IMlday: Francescog, I only have a couple of basic Physics courses and Philosophy of Science. However when Rob Morrison--a several time Toronto champion in the 1980's-- retired from investment banking and went back to school in English lit I traded him my English texts for his Physics texts. I think there are theories and there are laws. Accepting a theory is a matter of belief, for example the theory of evolution and the theory of creationism and the theory of Sirian colonization--they are OK as theories; so is the Big Bang. But believing in a particular theory seems a matter of belief, ergo a short leap from 'religion'. (I wonder what cloned sheep Dolly would theorize re Darwin?)

My favourite Physicists are Tsung Dao Lee, Chen Ning Yang and Kerson Huang because of their open-minded attitude to the I Ching. Using the I Ching and getting Nobel prizes in Physics would seem to be contradictory, yet so it went. Pauli is also interesting because of his cooperation with C.G. Jung on synchronicity and acausal connecting principles. Bell's experiment seems to demonstrate more a conservation of spin rather than a consevation of energy. Unless everything really is made out of information. Hippies used to say: "It's all in the vibes," which leads to Michio Kaku. The return of Pythagoras' model? One thing I don't believe: that building a bigger telescope makes the universe larger or older. It seems a common error to mistake our perception/measuring ability of the universe with the thing itself. re Heraclitus, "Everything connects!".
He frequently came up on the usenet group alt.philosophy.taoism which incidentally had some great crossposts with sci.physics since both the physicists and the Taoist philosophers agreed with Heraclitus. :-) re Borges, yes, very fine. At the chess commune in Toronto in the early 1970's (that put out Chess Canada magazine) a CBC radio producer Robert Zend was a frequent visitor. As a chess player he was about 1600 but as a thinker he was easily a Grandmaster. Borges came up in a conversation. He got interested. A month later he was in Buenos Aires interviewing him for the Ideas program. Nice job eh, fly around the world interviewing people with ideas and get paid to do it! Zend's second book of poetry, "Beyond Labels" has this 'review' from Borges: "Knowing your poems I understand why you like mine." re this site: I certainly agree it is most refreshing and impressive. Perhaps there is a 'kibitzer' mentality that stretches beyond chess itself into topics like Borges or Heraclitus or entropy theories. It must be possible to imagine titles based not on chess strength but on kibbitzing strength. I made a list once of the top ten players I knew but based not on results but on how much enjoyment they got out of playing chess. Chepukaitus (sp?) made that list; but so did Tal and John Matynia and Vincent Livermore. Deep message in "Searching for Bobby Fischer": that the kid needs Vinnie's love of playing chess just as much as he needs Pandolfini's more rational 'scientific' approach. In a way the Pandolfini character (not very realistic btw) represents 'entropy' and Vinnie 'chaos theory'.. hmm.. Perspiration and inspiration?

Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: so while we are on darwin any supporters for baron cuvier out there and his theory of catastrophism? it seems to me that the darwinian evolutionists cant get round certain awkward facts -such as the meteoric explanation for the extinction of the dinosaurs which they seem to like-without letting in cuvier by the back door. but they sure as hell dont like admitting that he got into the house.as i have pointed out richard dawkins the uks leading darwinist in his latest book the ancestors tale is quite happy to explain the cretaceous mass extinctions by the device of a meteorite from outer space hitting chixculub in the yucutan peninsula, but nowhere does he give cuvier any credit-while darwin and darwinism occupy three inches worth of credits in the bibliography and index.darwinists hate cuvier but cant do without him-thats my experience-which is why i -like lawrence day i believe-regard darwinism as an interesting religious hypothesis.
Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: having just read my post re darwin the situation reminds me of one particualrly funny colin baker epsode of dr who where the cyberchief keeps bellowing "excellent" as the nefarious plans of the cyberman plod forward-meanwhile the dr is running around all over the place causing havoc and generally getting in their way at every turn. in this analogy the cybermen are the darwinists and cuvier is dr who.
Sep-23-04  francescog: <IMLday> I have tried, but I am not able to get fascinated by taoism. I know that many physicists, as you say, instead, are, but I can't see the point. I mean, it is very UN-taoistic, if I am allowed, even to worry about "the point", but the fact is that when I hear or read about it, in the end i'm not .... enriched. Which is what happens when I read Borges, to stay in topic. So <tao-vibes> don't resonate with me.

As a side note, in these days I'm preparing for a test (Ph.D. admission) and I'm restudying Huang's book, this is something which could have interested Jung and Pauli !

I don't know if there is a contradiction in winning a nobel prize while having an open attitude towards I Ching (by the way, Huang did not win one, I think). In fact physicist are men as all the other, which means that as everybody else they do errors and they are irrational (if they fall in love or if they split a relationship or become angry if someone keeps telling that Anand does not even deserve to be in the top 10 (I could not believe that someone doubted that) ). The important point is that TDLee et al. weren't referring to I Ching when they published their papers, even if I Ching themselves had been (who knows?) fundamental in their original intuition or discovery. They were able to do great science, because they proposed proofs, conjectures, falsifiable results.

To me, believing in a particular theory means: I have studied the particular hypothesis and consequences of this one, I find them to be tenable and interesting/fruitful. I decide to pursue them, looking if they give me some insight/<prediction of some well defined quantity>. If I find some difference I have a problem and there is a synthesis (Hegel?) to be made. I am ready to drop my theory. Obviously it is very difficult to be so open minded. You have to remember that your papers and books could be wrong, and this can be hard to do. But science as a whole (if this concept is defined in some sense) does it. In this sense, the Big Bang is definitely not on the same footing of a religious belief.

As a personal note, if you have studied Kaku's quantum field theory book (I don't know if he has written more popular books) you have a good physics preparation! But Bell's inequality is not a test of spin conservation. It tests a basic quantum mechanics postulate: when you measure a physical quantity, you can only compute the probability to obtain a given result, even if you knew the state of the system in the most precise possible way. This has been long debated. It was tought to be possibile to obtain a result which SEEMED probabilistic but was instead deterministic through the existence of some sort of (unknown) <hidden variables>. Bell's inequality tests the difference between <quantum mechanics> probabilistic point of view and <hidden variables> deterministic point of view. The actual realization of the experiments is very hard. As far as I know, here in Rome they are (among other things) working on a test of the Bell's inequality via the K mesons (in an accelerator called Daphne, where the ph is really written as a greek phi).

Francesco

Sep-23-04  francescog: <ray keene> I must confess that I do not know Cuvier's theories. You said <catastrophism>...?

Francesco

Sep-23-04  Morty: <Willem Wallekers><I don't want to know any kibitzer's political or religious views.> I decided to put my political orientation in my profile, and it was your choice to read it. If you don't want to know something, then make believe you never read it. Also Willem, I never mentioned my religious beliefs. And if you don't want to know what they are, then do not read the next line. If anyone else wants to know what they are, I consider myself an atheist. I know it seems a bit odd to see a far right conservative as an atheist, but it is odd because of the unfair stereotype placed upon right-wingers as being "religious fundamentalists". Also, <Mr. Keene>, were Niccolo Machiavelli or Marcus Aurelius included in your list of geniuses? I have read the three works by Machiavelli (The Prince, The Art of War, and The Discourses), and also "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius, and I believe they are two of the smartest men who have ever walked the earth. If I were to pick a list of the greatest geniuses in history, they would make my list, along with Adam Smith, Aristotle, Alexis de Tocqueville, Thomas Robert Malthus, Stephen Hawking, John Nash, and the writers of the Federalist Papers (Hamilton, Madison, and Jay).
Sep-23-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <franceskog> <morty> go to google
type in cuvier george rocky road
or even just cuvier and look for rocky road
you will get a marvellous potted biography and a schmematic of catastrophism. in my view catastrophism has half of the truth and darwinism has the other half-i just wish the darwinists wdnt claim they have 100% and then import cuvier unrecognised by the back door! it may just be that english scientists dont like to recognise the french any more-even tho when he was alive they were in awe of him.

machiavelli yes-marcus aurelius no-we are working on an update and are very happy to reconsider.i am reading marcus aurelius now as it happens.

i am fascinated by genius and success-i like to see records broken and invincible heroes striding the land-ever improving on their previous performances-when you look at what guys like goethe leonardo and shakespeare achieved it is mind boggling.when kasparov was at his best-1985-1995 his results were inspirational too.the book we wrote by the way is called buzans book of genius and its probably out of print.tony buzan the inventor of mind maps was my co author.

Sep-23-04  Willem Wallekers: <Morty>
I'm interested in chess, not in you.
Sep-23-04  Morty: <Willem> Exactly what I said before: If you don't want to know anything about me, then don't read my profile. No one is forcing you to read anyone's profile. If I am not mistaken, the profile is a way for others to gain some substance of what a person likes/dislikes (in chess and in other fields). Some people enjoy to discuss more than just chess on this site, and if you were looking for pure chess (you said <I'm interested in chess, not in you>), why did you post right in the middle of a discussion on non-chess material? I think you either have a superactive ego or a massive chip on your shoulder. So don't lecture me, when you have the choice and the freedom not to read what I have to say.
Sep-23-04  Willem Wallekers: <Morty> You should have left out the last one third of your profile. You really love yourself, don't you?
Sep-23-04
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  paulalbert: For what it's worth, I find heated somewhat personal disputes not appropriate for the site and try to limit political or other comments to matters directly pertaining to chess masters under discussion or some historical chess situation. However, I myself have started some long and interesting discussion on physics, history etc. with some chess association being the seed. One of the reasons I prefer playing chess face to face is so I actually meet my opponent and learn something about his interests outside of chess, so Morty's Bio is exactly what I would hope to see and found all of it interesting. In my efforts to promote chess over the years, one of the stereotypes to overcome is that chessplayers, particularly good ones, are unidimensional nerds, whereas for the most part the contrary is true, so I am very interested in what the site members do other than chess.

Paul Albert

Sep-23-04  Morty: <Willem Wallekers> I wouldn't say that I love myself. I figured the info contained in the last part of my profile was relevant and interesting for those like Paul Albert who like to discuss things other than chess at this site. I actually do not wish to get into a verbal fight with you Willem, but you are slowly becoming an antagonist and I will verbally defend myself when attacked. I don't appreciate it when people kick dirt in my face, when I did not do anything to deserve it. Perhaps if I was in love with myself, as you indeed said I was, I would go out and start arguments with people, for no apparent reason.
Sep-23-04  suenteus po 147: <when you look at what guys like goethe leonardo and shakespeare achieved it is mind boggling.> The really interesting thing about those three particular individuals is that their work got increasingly better the more time went on. All three men's best work is arguably their latest. One other I can think of to add is Beethoven.
Sep-23-04  Giancarlo: How about Einstein?
Sep-24-04  square dance: <morty> i enjoyed your profile.
Sep-24-04  francescog: <morthy> I am no competent to judge about many of your greatest geniuses, because in many cases they are for me almost only a name (malthus, smith...) but I wonder why you cited S. Hawking (don't misunderstand me, he certainly <is> a genius!) and not, instead, Einstein or the fathers of quantum mechanics or Maxwell??

Francesco

Sep-24-04
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  ray keene: dear friends-may i point out

1 posting guideline number 3

2 the automatic ability conferred by this sites technology to avoid postings by contributors of whose views one does not wish to become aware-simply use the technology which consists of a couple of clicks and you can avoid ever reading again contributions by any individual whose opinions you find objectionable or irrelevant.

personally i dont particularly like the use of pseudonyms on websites-i have never contributed anything anywhere anonymously-i like people to know who i am and what i do and what i stand for and for my profile to be clear and accessible-lawrence day is evidently the same. i would also like this to be the same for everyone else-however anonymity is now ingrained as part of the universal web culture so theres not much to do about it.

more interestingly <suenteus po 147> -i wd really like to know what that stands for btw!!-has hit on the fascinating observation that shakespeare goethe and leonardo all got better as they got older.ditto beethoven.

exactly the same insight struck me on two separate occasions-one -when i was studying for my cambridge degree and was taking the goethe special paper and secondly when watching shakespeares cymbeline at the national theatre about 20 years ago.

as a result i later wrote a book called The Age Heresy with tony buzan-this might be available on amazon but it might be out of print-the basic gist was-YOUR BRAIN CAN BECOME BETTER AS YOU GET OLDER !!

it used to be thought that millions of brain cells die every day

it was then as an advance realised that by using your brain actively you can create new nueronal connections

now the thinking has advanced beyond that to the insight that not only new neuronal pathways but new cells can be created by active use of the brain.

there is a lot about this in goethes faust in metaphorical form. this is still controversial ground so i have no doubt that one of the kibitzing brain surgeons will now pounce and tell me i am wrong.

nevertheless-it is my belief that we are all the victim of a grand con trick started by the bismarckian social reforms in germany in the 19th century which decreed retirement and state pension ages and therefore left active working men in the position of being forcibly retired at age 65.

in the past-distant past-age was revered and was synonymous with wisdom. where for example do the words senator and senate come from? latin senex -old man!! the senate in rome was originally conceived of as the repository of the states wisdom conserved by old men with powerful memories. now because of modern socialism age is equated-wrongly-with decrepitude forgetfulness and retirement-probably to a state run home. some of the sharpest minds i know are in the oldest bodies-games inventor alex randolph in venice-former war hero david pritchard-multi talented games player whose book on mahjjong is soon due out-prof nathan divinsky of canada-still the fide delegate--and i cd go on.

Sep-24-04
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  Gypsy: < I wonder what is your work? In many occasions you made some physics statement... Francesco > Oh, I just kibitz about physics from the position of a next-door neighbor. My training is in mathematical sciences and I would classify my work as that of a research mathematician.

Polya once explained how he became a mathematician. He said that he started a double major in physics and philosophy. But physics felt too hard and phylosophy too easy, so he quickly switched to math for that is somewhere inbetween. I definitely empathise with Polya's feelings about physics. :-))

Sep-24-04  Jesuitic Calvinist: Re online anonymity; I empathise with Ray's view on this.

However, (i) knowing the names of GMs and IMs like Ray and Lawrence Day certainly adds to the interest of the site, whereas knowing the names of those of us without those titles and whose games are not in the database would not really be of interest to anyone except our own friends and relatives, who have better things to do; and (ii) speaking for myself, I usually only kibitz very quickly in the office (which partly explains the quality of my analysis) and given my work environment I prefer to remain anonymous.

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