Mar-31-23 | | stone free or die: <Stonehenge> found this: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial... |
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Mar-31-23
 | | MissScarlett: <Good name in man and woman, dear my lord,
Is the immediate jewel of their souls. Who steals my purse steals trash;
'tis something, nothing; Twas mine, 'tis his, and has been slave to thousands; But he that filches from me my good name
Robs me of that which not enriches him, And makes me poor indeed.> |
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Mar-31-23
 | | MissScarlett: On the Shakespeare authorship question, is it a case of stealing a man's good name, or restoring his true one? Another candidate: https://sirthomasnorth.com/ |
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: I think it unfortunate that his Japanese heritage is almost overlooked, buried in a middle name that is actually his first name, and the one he used in both games <CG> currently has of his. His last name was well enough exploited for a pun on <CG> however. Another misfortune. |
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Apr-01-23 | | SChesshevsky: < think it unfortunate that his Japanese heritage is almost overlooked...> Believe it was a sacrifice Frank felt he needed to make. Seems coming over at a relatively old age of around 30 years, guessing he took on his American name early on. Especially given he married an American early on as well. It was probably vitally important that he fit in. And if that meant jettisoning his historic culture, so be it. Probably not the only sacrifice his birth nationality forced. Guessing after 1941, he wasn't very welcome at chess clubs or tournaments. Necessitating only play through mail. A situation that may have lasted until at least 1960. Frank almost certainly had a very interesting life. Wonder if there's any chess playing descendants who view and can expand on the bio? |
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Apr-01-23
 | | keypusher: <Believe it was a sacrifice Frank felt he needed to make. Seems coming over at a relatively old age of around 30 years, guessing he took on his American name early on. Especially given he married an American early on as well. It was probably vitally important that he fit in. And if that meant jettisoning his historic culture, so be it.> It was pretty routine for immigrants, including Europeans, to "Americanize" their names at that time. And yes, people leaving their natal country and moving to a different one usually felt that it was not only necessary, but meritorious to adopt the culture of their new country. That was certainly my grandfather's opinion. <Probably not the only sacrifice his birth nationality forced. Guessing after 1941, he wasn't very welcome at chess clubs or tournaments. Necessitating only play through mail. A situation that may have lasted until at least 1960.> 1960? I'm sorry, but your statement is @#$%* nuts. |
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Apr-01-23
 | | keypusher: < MissScarlett: On the Shakespeare authorship question, is it a case of stealing a man's good name, or restoring his true one?
Another candidate: https://sirthomasnorth.com/> Less ludicrous than Oxenford, still utterly absurd. |
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Apr-01-23
 | | MissScarlett: Oxford would likely have been familiar with North's translations. |
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Apr-01-23
 | | keypusher: <MissScarlett: Oxford would likely have been familiar with North's translations.> Not too familiar, or Oxenford might have learned to spell. |
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: Koshiro?! I don't think so.
What's the source for that?
His Japanese name, according to the 1930 + 1940 census forms I looked at was more like Kotaro. . |
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Apr-01-23
 | | Stonehenge: <born Dec-15-1887> <Frank K. Ouchi, 75 [sic]> 1891 on his gravestone. |
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Apr-01-23
 | | Stonehenge: <FamilySearch>: Name Events Relationships
Frank K Ouchi
Principal
United States Census, 1920
Census 1920
New York City, New York, United States
Birth 1891
Japan
SpousesRosalind Ouchi
Kataro Ouchi
Principal
United States Census, 1930
Census 1930
Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey, United States
Birth 1893
Japan
SpousesRosalind R Ouchi
ChildrenFrank Ouchi, Harry Ouchi, Constance Ouchi Kotero Ouchi
Principal
United States Census, 1940
Census 1940
Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey, United States
Birth 1887
Japan
SpousesRosalind Ouchi
ChildrenFrank Ouchi, Harry Ouchi, Constance Ouchi Kotaro Ouchi
Groom
New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1938 Marriage 10 July 1919
Bronx, New York, United States
Birth 1891
Japan
ParentsAnagober, Muses Ouchi
SpousesRosalind R. Leach |
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Apr-01-23
 | | jnpope: It is interesting that the gravestone has 1891 on it (although the site shows the 1887 date). Perhaps some family updating of the record after doing some genealogical research?
Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
<Name: Frank Ouchi
State of Issue: Pennsylvania
Date of Birth: Thursday December 15, 1887
Date of Death: May 1967
Est. Age at Death: 79 years, 5 months>
Family Tree Record: https://www.ancestry.com/search/?na...
<Spouse: Rosalinda Ruth Leach
Father: Magobei Ouchi
Mother: Masu
Children: Frank Kotaro
Birth: 15 Dec 1887 Mito, Ibaraki, Japan
Death: 3 May 1967 Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey, USA
Residence: Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey, USA>
The 1940 Census lists him as "Ouchi, Katero", 53 years of age (which makes his YOB 1887).
The 1930 Census lists him as "Ouchi, Kataro" 37 years of age (making his YOB 1893). Year of immigration to the US is listed as 1907.
The 1920 Census lists gives "Ouchi, Frank K.", age 29 (making his YOB 1891). Year of immigrating to the US is listed as 1914.
The last one blows-up my theory that he adopted "Frank" later in life. |
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: The 1920 census is new to me.
I wonder why ancestry missed it (or maybe I did?). |
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: Also, what about the 1950 census?
I believe the census works on a 72-year seal, with the 1950 census becoming public in April of 2022. . |
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Apr-01-23
 | | jnpope: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewe... Koshiro Ouchi, age 19yr 9mo, born Ibaraki, departed Yokohma, Japan, on August 13th, 1907 aboard the S.S. Minnesota.
This would make his year/month of birth December 1887. |
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: RE: Kishiro
But Ouchi is such a common name, what connects this man (Koshiro) to the Ouchi who lived in Bogota NJ (and seems to have led a long and happy life!). |
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Apr-01-23
 | | jnpope: New Jersey Death Index lists him as "Ouchi Frank K".
The Federal (SSDI) has him as Frank Ouchi, the state of New Jersey has him as Frank K. Ouchi, at this point I'm presuming that he had legally added Frank to his name as nicknames usually don't get added to your government records (criminal records as aliases sure, but added to your Social Security file? It would be very bizarre).
And with that I think I've exhausted my interest on Frank K. Ouchi.
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Apr-01-23 | | stone free or die: Issei -
Our chess player was an <Issei>, i.e. a first generation Japanese born ex-pat who migrated to N. America. It's a Japanese word, as noted in this wiki page: <The first members of the issei emigrated not directly to the mainland United States, but to Hawaii. These emigrants—the first of whom arrived on board the steamship City of Tokio in February 1885—were common laborers escaping hard times in Japan to work in Hawai'i. Their immigration was subsidized by the Hawaiian government, as cheap labor was needed for important commodity crops, especially its sugar plantations. Numerous Japanese eventually settled in Hawaii.[6] Emigration of Japanese directly to the mainland began in 1885, when "student-laborers" landed on the West Coast of the United States.[7] The earliest of these emigrated to San Francisco. Their numbers continually increased in the late 1880s and early 1890s. Their purpose in moving to America was to gain advanced knowledge and experience to develop the modern society at home. Both students and laborers were attracted by the image of the United States as a country that welcomed foreigners. When they first arrived in the U.S., they had not intended to live there permanently, but rather to learn from Americans and to take that knowledge back home. While they encountered discrimination, they also made opportunities, and many settled in California, and later in Washington and Oregon as well as Alaska (to a lesser degree).> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei
If one wonders why <K. Ouchi> might not have naturalized, despite leading almost an entire lifetime in the USA, paying taxes and raising children, well, he might have wanted to, but we don't know. We do know that discriminatory laws in the US prevented him from doing so for many years, even before WW2. I don't think <K. Ouchi> was interned during WW2, but I don't know. It's clear that he was a family man, married to an US citizen, and well integrated into the communty (a shopholder in 1930, and a respected member and office holder of his local chess club). But this section, describing some aspects of Japanese internment, talks about immigration and citizenship laws briefly (and introduces the term Issei): <Most Japanese Americans interned during World War II were held in facilities run by the War Relocation Authority (WRA) and Wartime Civilian Control Agency (WCCA) described in previous chapters. However, other facilities were also used to imprison Japanese Americans during the war. In all, over 7,000 Japanese Americans and Japanese from Latin America were held in internment camps run by the Department of Justice and the U.S. Army. Eight of these facilities were visited for this project. After the attack on Pearl Harbor and prior to Executive Order 9066 on February 19, 1942, about 4,000 individuals from all over the U.S. were detained by the FBI. Over half of these were Japanese immigrants who were long-term U.S. residents denied U.S. citizenship by discriminatory laws. These Issei, now classified as "enemy aliens," were first sent to temporary detention stations, then transferred to locations known generally as "Justice Department Camps." The camps were run by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, part of the Department of Justice. After hearings, most of the Issei were then sent to U.S. Army internment camps where they remained through May 1943. After that time the internees were returned to Department of Justice control for the duration of the war. Published literature provides few details about the Japanese American experiences at these facilities. Weglyn (1976:176) notes that most of the U.S. Army and Department of Justice internment camps were considered temporary, and even a complete listing of the camps and internees is not available. > http://npshistory.com/series/anthro... |
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