| Feb-21-08 | | Knight13: Poor guy... Got smashed by the best players of his day and only one draw against Minchkwitz. |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: Somehow I have the sneaking suspicion that the H. in von Schütz stands for Herr. Can anybody confirm or dissuade?
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: If it's the same guy who played Zukertort in 1869 this 1868 issue has another such game, plus a problem one may reasonably was composed by the same guy: NBS v5 (1868) p288 #539
<A. v. Schütz in Barmen> https://books.google.com/books?id=4... Suggesting a first name of A.
Note - there is a Prof. v. Schütz (#65) in the Barmen 1905 tournament - could he have carried on that long? https://images.chesscomfiles.com/up... . |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: In 1875 there is a Herr v. Schütz who's president of Lunenburg (Lüneburg) CC. https://books.google.com/books?id=J... |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: And in 1874 a A. v. Schütz shows up in Berlin.
Not a hair (or Herr?) seen of H. Schütz.
I think Z-base will go with A. v. Schütz, but it would be nice to get a little more biographical data on the guy. (I personally doubt he was at 1905 Barmen - that is likely a different v. Schütz) |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: Oh wait, there is at least one H. v. Schütz, DSZ v25 (1870) p124 G2922 (vs Cordel): https://books.google.com/books?id=E... The plot thickens, or not? |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: I made a mistake, he's #69 in the Barmen photo. |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: There is a Heinrich Schütz mentioned in connection with the Vienna Chess Club, circa 1900: https://books.google.com/books?id=v... That might lead to some confusion.
Of course, Schütz is a very common name, and there are DSZ's with two Dr. v. Schütz's, one from Essen, the other from Munich, circa 1905: https://books.google.com/books?id=5... A difficult problem to sort out, especially since the periodicals offer little help keeping them straight. . |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: After a bit of wandering in the dark woods, not quite aimlessly but also, I found a good source confirming my initial hunch: < o. Schütz , Gymnafiallehrer aus Lüneburg, > = <O. Schütz, gymnasium teacher from Lüneburg,> https://books.google.com/books?id=7... <Illustrirte Zeitung V77 N 1993 Sept 10, 1881 p227> It's either Oscar or (more likely) Oskar - I've seen both in German sources. This confirmation is only for <Berlin (1881)>, I'm unsure of who played Zukertort. Somebody better tell Tim Harding he got the wrong Schütz as Blackburne's opponent! (Unless the H. was intended to represent Herr that is) There are many Schütz's floating around - I haven't fully sorted them all out. |
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 | | Tabanus: https://www.delcampe.de/de/sammlero..., the inventor of the pocket chess set? |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: Tim Harding can sleep tonight - I had to download the volume's PDF to get a readable version - and it turns out o. Schütz is really just a misread on the part of the OCR - it's really v. Schütz. I suppose I should have been clued in because it was "o. Schütz" and not "O. Schütz", but still.... There is no evidence that H. v. Schütz was the player's name, at least thus far in my research in the original German sources. Does anybody have the Berlin 1881 tournament book? (I think one exists, but I could be wrong) |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: Alternatively, can we track the Lüneberg player's move to Dresden, if he is indeed Oskar? (PS- interesting find <Tab>) |
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| Jul-08-17 | | zanzibar: EDOchess puts H. v. Schütz at Barmen (1905).
http://www.edochess.ca/players/p435...
But the German literature (what I could find) gives that Schütz only as Prof. v. Schütz (Essen). Again, no H. |
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| Jul-29-17 | | Eagle41257: Mikhail Yudovich Sr. writes in his book about Chigorin (1985) on page 37: "<M. Schuetz> - 1.5 points". |
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