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| Jun-03-13 | | 14DogKnight: Oh, is that what happened? Thank you for clearing that up! ;) |
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| Apr-19-14 | | Bartacus: Perry was indeed very strong; it's a shame his win against Browne isn't in here. I played against him in two FIDE Futurities, and he won both games effortlessly. |
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| May-21-15 | | wrap99: I knew him in the late 1970s. No trace of arrogance as I saw with other junior players who were on their way up -- he was a polite kid who was nice to everyone. I hope he is doing well and would be curious what he is up to nowadays. |
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| May-21-15 | | Howard: Me, too ! He made the cover of Chess Life and Review back in the summer of 1977 for winning the national junior high championship. The winners of the high school and also the elementary championships were also pictured. |
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May-21-15
 | | HeMateMe: "Perry Youngworth, Riverside, USA
Congratulations Judit, Ever since you broke on the international chess scene some years ago you have changed people's perception of what women can accomplish in chess. Before you, it seemed that the belief was that women could get very good, but not reach the top levels. But through enormous talent, lots of hard work, and an aggressive playing style, you have completely changed this perception. Not only are you the best female player in history, you are close to being the best player for either gender in the game right now. Good luck to you in your future tournaments and matches and I look forward to seeing you compete in the world championship someday!"Riverside Cal.? Maybe he has a Facebook page? |
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| May-21-15 | | wrap99: Some juniors of that time did well in other things after leaving chess almost completely (although some came back to it). I can think of one junior who was in prison for financial fraud; one who is bond trader; one who opened a very successful restaurant near a UC. I am open to guesses/questions about who for at least the non-criminals. I saw Perry's post to Judit, I think it dates from 2003. |
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| May-21-15 | | Howard: The bond trader might be Norman Weinstein I suspect. |
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| May-21-15 | | wrap99: Norman was not really of Perry's generation of juniors; moreover, there were many bond traders who probably started out as good chess players. Norman did have something to do with that -- I met Maxim Dlugy in an elevator at my company; he had been recruited by Weinstein in a program aimed at young masters. |
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May-21-15
| | HeMateMe: who is Weinstein? |
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May-21-15
 | | perfidious: <HMM> Norman Weinstein was quite a strong player. USCF sent Norman, as well as Art Bisguier, to our school in Burlington, Vermont in 1974-75, where they gave simuls. Was quite a treat. In the seventies, Norman often played at Lone Pine and usually scored solidly; had opportunities been more plentiful, or certainly had he chosen to play full-time in Europe, he should have made GM.
'Twas well-nigh impossible to make the title on this side of the Atlantic in those days. |
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May-21-15
| | HeMateMe: Not too many folks in Vermont. You had enough serious chess players to warrant a high level simul appearance? Impressive. |
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May-21-15
| | perfidious: <HMM> Starting in 1972, there was a thriving club in Burlington, fuelled by one at the junior high in town. Four of us youngsters comprised the side which won the National HS team event in 1977 in Cleveland. Our third board beat top seed Yasser Seirawan in the event; his team (Garfield HS of Seattle) was a contender. In the last round, I beat one of the lower boards from Garfield in a crucial match as all four of us won to come from behind. |
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May-21-15
 | | cwcarlson: He has a FB page: https://www.facebook.com/perry.youn.... Pretty sure this is his since once of his friends (John Dodge) has two mutual chess friends with me. I last saw PW at the 1979 American Open. I also wonder what he's up to nowadays, maybe he'll pull a Jim Tarjan and come out of retirement! |
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| Jun-23-18 | | wrap99: Here's a blast from the past: https://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/15/... I would like to mention Caissanist said about dozens of strong teens of Perry's era who could have become GMs "easily" -- I think very few people become one easily and how many players who dedicated their lives to the game became IMs but not GMs. |
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| Jun-23-18 | | Howard: No doubt I'm not the only one who remembers Perry Youngworth. He got his picture in CL&R back in early 1975, as I recall, when he was only about 13. And, like I mentioned earlier on this page, he made the cover back in the summer of 1977. |
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| Dec-08-20 | | rhgin: I attended UC Riverside in the 80's and as a freshman in 1980-1981 I would go play video games in "The Commons" which was sort of a campus community center. The hottest game at the time was Missile Command. I remember playing it several hours a day. There was often the same band of players waiting to play. We'd play 2 player games. The winner keeps on playing. Among those diehard players was a guy named Perry. He was a great Missile Command player. I had heard rumors that he was a great chess tournament player but never decided to find out more. After recently watching Netflix's The Queens Gambit (I thoroughly enjoyed it), I was curious about the guy I played video games back in college. And lo and behold I stumbled upon this site mentioning Perry Youngworth. Apparently he was a fantastic chess player. I found a pic with Perry on the cover of CL&R in Aug. 1977 and without a doubt it is the same guy. As previously mentioned he was a super nice and polite young man with a very down to earth manner. And to say it again he was a superb Missile Command player. I hope he is doing great and I wish I could connect with him to ask him what he thought of The Queen's Gambit. ;-) |
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| Dec-21-23 | | Caissanist: <wrap99> I was referring to the fact that, as <perfidious> said, in those days you could only get norms in closed tournaments and had to play a certain percentage of foreigners, which very few American tournaments gave you the opportunity to do. Youngworth was IM strength at least but he apparently never traveled to (or lived in) Europe, so he had few norm opportunities. |
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Dec-22-23
 | | FSR: I hadn't thought about Perry Youngworth for a long time. One of those young American players for whom it seemed like the chess world was his oyster in the late seventies and early eighties. Probably like so many others, he realized there was little money in chess and went for some more lucrative career. The same could be said of me, though of course I couldn't hold a candle to Youngworth as a player. |
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Dec-22-23
| | FSR: I can't quite believe it, but reportedly Perry Youngworth won the 1979 American Open just two years after winning the U.S. Junior High School Championship. Both of those achievements are recorded in https://new.uschess.org/sites/defau... among other sources. |
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Dec-22-23
| | perfidious: <FSR>, either the very first kibitz here is inaccurate or the information on the website is. Then again, it lists all the Original Life Masters and I am missing, although I earned that back in the mid 1980s. |
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Dec-22-23
| | FSR: <perfidious> The kibitzer referred to Youngworth winning the Amateur Section of the American Open at age 12, presumably in 1974. He also won the whole shebang five years later. https://americanopen.org/gallery/pa... |
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Dec-22-23
| | FSR: <perfidious: . . . it lists all the Original Life Masters and I am missing, although I earned that back in the mid 1980s.> My congratulations on winning that august title, which as we know from certain Floridians ranks well above any awarded by FIDE. Many a GM cries himself to sleep at night in sorrow over lacking that much more prestigious title. |
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Dec-22-23
| | perfidious: <FSR>, them Eye emms and Gee emms think they know what they's about; I'm here ta tell ya, me and that <AJ> don't see eye to eye on much, but he's right about the Ell Emm title. It's the nuts! |
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Dec-22-23
| | FSR: <perfidious> Some people say that Magnus Carlsen gave up the world championship so he could concentrate on achieving the Original Life Master title. World champions are a dime a dozen - there have been 17 undisputed world champions - but no world champion except Fischer has been an Original Life Master. That probably explains why many consider Fischer the GOAT. |
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Dec-23-23
| | perfidious: <FSR: <perfidious> Some people say that Magnus Carlsen gave up the world championship so he could concentrate on achieving the Original Life Master title....> He has all the fame and fortune a grandmaster could ever want; Carlsen has made forays into poker, but the <real> glory is nailing down OLM. <....World champions are a dime a dozen - there have been 17 undisputed world champions - but no world champion except Fischer has been an Original Life Master. That probably explains why many consider Fischer the GOAT.> Do not recall whether I have ever seen <joshie> post of this in one of his innumerable paeans to Fischer, but it would indeed explain a great deal. |
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