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Edinburgh Chess Club
Number of games in database: 7
Years covered: 1824 to 1907
Overall record: +3 -2 =2 (57.1%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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C44 King's Pawn Game (3 games)
C20 King's Pawn Game (2 games)

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Scotland, famous for introducing the King's Pawn Game (C44) & Scotch Game (C45), includes the cities of Edinburgh, City of Aberdeen, & Dundee City.

Edinburgh chess club:

Game Collection: 1824 Edinburgh Chess Club vs London Chess Club contains details of the match

Wikipedia article: Edinburgh

Last updated: 2022-02-18 14:20:09

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Edinburgh CC vs London ½-½351824Correspondence matchC20 King's Pawn Game
2. London vs Edinburgh CC 0-1521824Correspondence matchC45 Scotch Game
3. Edinburgh CC vs London ½-½991824Correspondence matchC44 King's Pawn Game
4. Edinburgh CC vs London 0-1551825Correspondence matchC20 King's Pawn Game
5. Edinburgh CC vs London 1-0601826Correspondence matchC44 King's Pawn Game
6. Edinburgh CC vs Dundee City 0-1231862City MatchC44 King's Pawn Game
7. City of Munich vs Edinburgh CC 0-12019072-games Corr MatchC37 King's Gambit Accepted
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  Sally Simpson: Looks like Plan C.

I could not contact the bod who has all the keys and codes also I wanted to see a copy of Cochrane's 1819 treatise of the Scotch which is not at the club.

That thing of game which they have labelled Edinburgh v London may be in there as analysis or a game.

Found an old copy (1995) of Command & Conquer, played that all night.

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  Sally Simpson: ...just had an idea.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Zanzibar,

My idea worked I have found out who played that bogus game.

Keep your eye on:

Edinburgh vs London, 1820

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  Sally Simpson: The Edinburgh Club celebrates it's 200th anniversary this year.

We had a fair number of events planned but covid put the kibosh on a few.

We still plan an invite only tournament for the great, the good and the high graded. (plans are afoot)

Also, hopefully, (discussions are also taking place) a super-duper star to give a club simul.

Topalov gave the last one at the club and he was brilliant.

One thing I'm trying to organise is a meal, two pints of lager and a mince pie, in the very building they met in on the evening of 4th of November 1822. (The original minutes, which we still have, state they had a whip round for candles and money to buy chess sets. )

Here is me displaying some of the recently acquired chess club paraphernalia which is being dished out free to the members.

The club site has been updating a background on all it's members, there may be something of interest for the bio team.

That so far, is the 19th Century Members. Quite a few famous names from 1900 onwards.

I'll send the club badge to C.G. hopefully they can add it this page.

Meanwhile maybe someone could add a link to the clubs site. (thank you)

Feb-21-22  login:

Omne tulit punctum, qui miscuit utile dulci

Support for Geoff

'Thrift, thrift, Horatio! The funeral baked meats / Did coldly furnish forth the marriage tables.'

'.. This is by no means a difficult task, as some gloomy philosophers (uninitated in culinary science) have tried to make the world believe --- who seem to have delighted in persuading you, that every thing that is nice must be noxious; and that every thing that is nasty, is wholesome. ..',

from 'The cook's oracle: containing receipts for plain cookery', p. 13, 1822


Por(k)poise alternative


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  Sally Simpson: The Edinburgh Club is celebrating it's 200th Anniversary this year.

I am now the proud owner of an Edinburgh Chess Club hat. (and a jersey with the club badge on it, a mug, coaster, mouse mate, fridge magnet...)

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  MissScarlett: <Also, hopefully, (discussions are also taking place) a super-duper star to give a club simul.

Topalov gave the last one at the club and he was brilliant.>

Do you know or can you reveal how much it cost?

Many years ago on ICC I asked <leon> aka <Shirov> what his fee was and I think he said £2000. I assume that meant the whole deal and that he would arrange his own travel and accommodation, but maybe I'm being naive.

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  Sally Simpson: I'll ask about to see if I can find out what the fee was.

Would not mind having him back. A great guy, jokey, showing players where they went wrong, eyes sparkled with delight when we showed him our signed visitors book, Blackburne, Capablanca, Alekhine, Karpov...(and now him!) etc.

Sadly covid has put the mockers on a lot of events we had planned. I was to run a tournament for players rated between 1822-2022, it may yet come off but we are running out of months and have three other tournaments taking precedent.

Seriously considering getting an Edinburgh C.C. Tattoo...or maybe a green pawn but that is also the logo of I had it first, I wrote for the Hibernian fanzine in the late 70's early 80's under that name.

Chess History.
Somebody in the 1800's filled 4 massive scraps books full of newspaper chess cuttings. It looks like they come from many various sources. They are about the size of a small coffee table and thicker than a brick.

Tomorrow I am going to spend a whole day on each book, Looking forward to it. I know I'll find treasure.

Apr-03-22  Z free or die: Scans <Sally>, preserve and disseminate that history!

You might even consider asking Google to help if you lack the time/energy. Inquire with a cooperating library, or see this:


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  MissScarlett: Staunton visited the club in July 1852 upon the opening of new rooms in Princes St. and was made an honorary member:

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  Sally Simpson: To big and heavy to scan, I'll need an industrial scanner.

I'll be using a high def camera. My first task will be to look for anything with an Edinburgh mention as we re putting together a full history.

Yes Staunton help keep the club going and interest revived. We have all copies of these old magazine from that era plus dozens in foreign languages.

Re:simul fees.

I know we have a letter from Alekhine offering to do his simul, The club accepted and I'm wondering if a fee was mentioned in that letter.

Apr-05-22  Z free or die: <<Sally> To big and heavy to scan, I'll need an industrial scanner.>

Sure, agreed, but that's why I suggested teaming up with the pros - i.e. a University library or Google directly.

They use camera scanners (not flatbed), to accommodate these delicate, heavy, bulky old notebooks.

CPL digitized Miron Hazeltine's scrapbooks, and the Historical Society of Penn used to have Walter Penn Shipley's scrapbooks online. It can be done.


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  Sally Simpson: Hi Z.

I am not lugging huge books about at my age.

I'll enjoy going through them and weeding out what I want. If any genuine researcher wants to have a look then give a few days notice and we will accommodate them. Also they will not be allowed to leave the club.

I started going though the collection today.

Have discovered along with the four monster books there are 5 smaller books. Sadly not all the clippings are dated but you can get an idea of when by bracketing between given dates and what is in the clipping.

Today was a trial run, already got a loads of goodies (blog fodder) a couple of games I submitted here (screwed one up but corrected it.)

The TV people are coming up next week to film the club and speak to me (and possibly others, but mainly me....then edit me out. )

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<<SALLY>> and <<Z FREE>> and <<SCAZZ>> need to get a room lol lol

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  Sally Simpson: Here is a picture of the scrap books

Apr-07-22  Z free or die: (Tongue in cheek...)

Trouble with <CG> is too many old geezers hanging about...

<I am not lugging huge books about at my age.>

Either falling apart physically....

<<<SALLY>> and <<Z FREE>> and <<SCAZZ>> need to get a room lol lol>

... or mentally!


Apr-07-22  Z free or die: <<Sally> Here is a picture of the scrap books ...>

I appreciate that photo, nice stuff.

I am serious about trying to enlist a local university to try to get Google books involved. I know GB's cut back, but they did travel to the library sites for scanning - and why not to CC's?

But I understand it would be above and beyond the call of duty to follow up on this - regrettably. So let's move on

(But do keep us informed of your future adventures diving into the past)


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  MissScarlett: <Somebody in the 1800's filled 4 massive scraps books full of newspaper chess cuttings.>

What's the earliest cutting?

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  Sally Simpson: I do not know yet Miss S.

I was thinking of doing a quick run through to see if I could spot doublers or something like that.

But this is more fun. I do not know what I'm going to see every time I turn a page.

Priority is anything Edinburgh related for the club site but if I see anything that I know will be of interest I'll post.

The one book I have done is that small brown book third on the right. To give an idea of the scale it is about the size of an average chess book.

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  MissScarlett: But surely the cuttings are in some sort of chronological order. Just a quick scan of the front pages of the books should suffice. Or are the volumes compilations of assorted material that were made up much later?
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Miss Scarlett,

It appears they were just cuttings of anything chess from The Scotsman, Glasgow Herald, Falkirk Herald etc...A lot of it will be online, I find it easier to look at them this way, often the scans online are squiffy and blotchy.

The first book had loads of loose cut outs at the back, different diagrams, different publications, no dates. (some of the stories on the back of these cutting looked interesting. The Victorians had a wonderful way with words.) but already I've unearthed some good stuff the club site can use and other things like 'Zukertort and his dream.'

There is an undated covering note from George Page in one book but the cuttings that do have a date are a long time before he was born.

I'm thinking someone cut them out and they lay loose in the club for years. George pasted them into that one book, ran out space and put the remaining pile of loose cuttings in the back of the book. (he probably meant to do it later but went off to fight in WWII got captured, spent five years in a POW camp and forgot all about them...or something romantic like that.)

A lot stuff about Daniel Yarnton Mills who was an Edinburgh club member. I'll see if I can add to the games tally on here.

The larger books, (I've peeked, lifting one nearly threw my spine out of whack) look different and resemble some order.

I am doing the smaller ones first. Enjoying it. Spending all day alone locked in the Edinburgh chess club looking at newspaper cuttings from the 1800's whilst outside the rest of the world goes crazy. Bliss! (this will take me months)

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  Sally Simpson: The is no such chess club as The City of the Edinburgh, and there never has been. It is the Edinburgh Chess Club.

The Edinburgh Chess Club played a match v The Phoenix Chess Club (Dublin) in 1894 but fear if I submit the game it will end up as the City of Edinburg v City of Dublin which would be wrong or at the very mention of the word 'Phoenix' it may end up here Sun Phoenix (Computer)

If this was a players name it would be changed/corrected - I have submitted a correction slip.

Apr-27-22  Z free or die: <Sally> have all the games above been run under the auspices of the Edinburgh CC, and involved only players of same?

Then for sure, I'd agree 100% with you.

Places like London had buckets of different CC's, which sometimes collaborated. Perhaps I'll take a quick look and see if we have a city listing as well as CC listings there...

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Z all these games were played by the Edinburgh Chess Club.

I've not yet come across the Munich details (I'm up to 1905) but this post City of Munich vs Edinburgh, 1907 (kibitz #1) is listing a committee full of Edinburgh Chess Club Players.

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  Sally Simpson: You must agree it looks better. (Thank You) Before it was like an advert from the Scottish tourist board. 'The City of Edinburgh.'

All we need now to really smarten up the place is the club crest. (I'll see if can get a good copy of the original)

Remember if ever in Edinburgh then all chess players are welcome, pop in, say hello, sign the visitors book. In the same book as Blackburne, Capablanca, Alekhine, Karpov, Topalov....(me!).

Then play a game - following the clubs rules.

No English Opening and no London System and if you play the Scotch Gambit you get a glass of whiskey, an Edinburgh Club fridge magnet (subject to availability) and a Tam O'Shanter Baseball hat.

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