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City of Edinburgh
Number of games in database: 7
Years covered: 1824 to 1907
Overall record: +3 -2 =2 (57.1%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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C44 King's Pawn Game (3 games)
C20 King's Pawn Game (2 games)

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Scotland, famous for introducing the King's Pawn Game (C44) & Scotch Game (C45), includes the cities of Edinburgh, City of Aberdeen, & Dundee City.

Game Collection: 1824 Edinburgh Chess Club vs London Chess Club contains details of the match

Wikipedia article: Edinburgh

 page 1 of 1; 7 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Edinburgh vs London 1-0601824Correspondence matchC44 King's Pawn Game
2. Edinburgh vs London 0-1551824Correspondence matchC20 King's Pawn Game
3. Edinburgh vs London ½-½991824Correspondence matchC44 King's Pawn Game
4. London vs Edinburgh 0-1521824Correspondence matchC45 Scotch Game
5. Edinburgh vs London ½-½351824Correspondence matchC20 King's Pawn Game
6. Edinburgh vs Dundee City 0-1231862City MatchC44 King's Pawn Game
7. City of Munich vs Edinburgh 0-12019072-games Corr MatchC37 King's Gambit Accepted
  REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2) | Edinburgh wins | Edinburgh loses  

Kibitzer's Corner
May-02-09  Dredge Rivers: If it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!
Jul-13-15  zanzibar: There is an interesting note about the Scotch Gambit:

<The match saw the first recorded use of the Scotch Gambit, which strangely enough was first used by the London players. Edinburgh liked it so much that after fierce discussion they adopted it themselves and used it to great effect in two games.

The moves were published in a number of newspapers and drew considerable public attention and not a little controversy when in one of the games the London club attempted to retract a poor move in a critical position, even applying unsuccessfully to the Postmaster for the return of the letter. The Postmaster having refused, the Edinburgh club took the stance that a move once posted was the equivalent of a piece having been released and the move thus completed, and the game was eventually won by Edinburgh. Such was the passion generated that there were still heated letters being written to the chess journals on the subject in 1850. Needless to say the two clubs' versions of events differ somewhat in the match books produced afterwards, which we still have in our library. We also have the original letters with their wax seals, which carried the moves between the two capitals.

The match went on for 4 years, during which time 5 games were played with the two drawn games not counting, two being won by Edinburgh, and one by London. As the winners of the match, Edinburgh took possession of the promised trophy which was promptly christened the Scot's Gambit Cup, and which still holds pride of place in our trophy cabinet.>

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The claim that the first game is from 1820, or even officially connected with the ECC is suspect given this:

<Only two years after its formation the club took part in the first ever correspondence match between two clubs, when in 1824 it had the temerity to challenge the established and powerful London Chess Club.>

(Same source as above)

Clearly implying the ECC was established in 1822.

In fact we be more explicit:

<The Edinburgh Chess Club was established in 1822, its first meeting taking place in the North British Hotel in Princes St. It started with 31 members, a figure that had risen to 50 within 2 years, and the following years they were discussing the purchase of a house to serve as permanent clubrooms. In fact they had to wait another 97 years before that wish would come true.>

So what is the story behind that first (presumably mislabeled) game?

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Zanzibar,

The 1820 game is a fake. I sent in a correction slip in June 2014.

The club still has the minutes of the very first meeting on the 4th November 1822.

They organised a whip round to pay for the hotel room, candles, the purchase of some chess pieces and to reimburse the lad who placed the advert adverting starting up a chess club in an Edinburgh Newspaper.

Every now and then I search the old Edinburgh newspaper archives looking for this advert but so far have not found it.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi zanzibar:

There is an address on the picture here.

I'll check it out on Tuesday.

May-22-16  zanzibar: <Sally> It's funny, but I forgot about the posts above that the other game was likely bogus - even the one I contributed!

Now I understand why you wanted to move the discussion.

OK, it might be a spot of fun to find out. Looking forward to hearing about your findings.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Zanzibar,

Plan A failed. The club had a tournament running on Tuesday (last night) I'll try and get there tonight. This will be Plan B.

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  Sally Simpson: Looks like Plan C.

I could not contact the bod who has all the keys and codes also I wanted to see a copy of Cochrane's 1819 treatise of the Scotch which is not at the club.

That thing of game which they have labelled Edinburgh v London may be in there as analysis or a game.

Found an old copy (1995) of Command & Conquer, played that all night.

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  Sally Simpson: ...just had an idea.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Zanzibar,

My idea worked I have found out who played that bogus game.

Keep your eye on:

Edinburgh vs London, 1820

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