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| Mar-18-07 | | DP12: The East Bay Boys--- Bhat, Pruess and Friedel will all, God willing, likely be GMs soon. All of the famous really young players (Robson) are quite promising, but it seems they have a long way to go. Was Caruana born in the US? |
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| Mar-18-07 | | MaxxLange: GM Tal Shaked is not active anymore, correct? |
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| Mar-19-07 | | geraldo8187: <maxxlange> that is correct. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | James Bowman: <Joshka> I think Finegold is either a GM now or one GM norm away and he was born in Michigan I think. He is also active and should have been a GM a long time ago. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | whiskeyrebel: Ben Finegold was born in 1969. He needs one GM norm. I can't blame Waitzkin for pursuing another interest. If he earned a GM title many of you would gripe if he didn't reach 2700 level or wear the right shirt to please you. Shaked chess wise is only to be found in the middle of the night on ICC from what I can tell ( didn't we lose him to college? ). There's a good crop of young talent coming up. I'm not too worried. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | whiskeyrebel: I'm quite happy following the many titled players who are here by choice of their own or their parents. We're the melting pot, Daddy; that's our schtick. Lot's of folks ( including myself ) were born in places within U.S. borders and without that didn't seem to really impact their lives much. I welcome them all who play chess. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | Tomlinsky: <Joshka: He is still only 30, if he were to tackle chess again and become a GM, he'd be the only native born, active GM in the United States under 40. If he chooses to not come back, does anyone out there have any idea who could break this barrior here in the United States? Darn, I realize chess has really taken a nose dive from the popular Fischer era, but it would be nice to have at least one player in a country of 300,000,000> It isn't all that surprising really is it? I mean, out of that same figure, 300,000,000, it's hard enough to get someone in the White House with more than a couple of brain cells. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | RookFile: The GM mountain is tough one to climb.
Waitzkin was a pretty strong player, but he's an even better marketer. Who else among American players is mentioned in the same sentence as Bobby Fischer? When in reality, Bobby Fischer at age 15 was stronger than Waitzkin has ever been in his whole life. Well, good for Waitzkin for marketing himself well and getting whatever he can get. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | micartouse: You'd think reading some of the posts here that Josh Waitzkin is sitting around depressed eating Doritos and watching CSI reruns saying "I could've been a contender". The guy has won World Championships for crying out loud! Okay, it's not chess but martial arts. Big deal, the guy has achieved mastery in chess and absolutely dominated in Tai Chi Chuan. Seriously, that's totally amazing. We can't really call him a quitter if he became a world champion in something, otherwise we risk sounding demented. He continued to try his best in something he felt more comfortable in. Two different fields he achieved more than most of us could ever dream. I think that rocks and I hope he doesn't go back to chess but picks up the oboe or something. :) |
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| Mar-19-07 | | MaxxLange: <whiskeyrebel>last I heard of Shaked, he graduated Stanford and went to work for Google. 5-7(?) years ago? Good for him - I hope he makes big bank at Google. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | MaxxLange: <micartouse>I couldn't agree more. He had that darn movie hanging around his neck...he took a journey of intellectual growth into the Oriental languages and philosophy in school, after being in the chess cooker since age 6, and it led him to the martial arts. He has a book coming out soon (note: I am not a shill for his books) about the philosophy and practice of competition in a week or so, it should be an interesting read. I presume he is comparing his chess experiences to Tai Chi in the book, etc. |
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| Mar-27-07 | | DP12: It can't be denied that training and chess opportunities in the US are pretty limited. The country is so big and there are so few and also very expensive really strong tournaments. The American prodigies are commoners in Europe, China and India. |
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| Apr-15-07 | | vesivialvy93: Waitzkin's martial art is a no-contact fighting... like no-contact football ect... Waitzkin will play chess again the day chess will be play with no checkmate but only moving pieces in a beautiful style where the blunders will not be count....with deep relaxing breath after every pawns moves . |
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| Apr-16-07 | | vonKrolock: <Waitzkin will play chess again the day chess will be play with no checkmate but only moving pieces in a beautiful style> Perhaps he should consider the possibility of embrace Solving Chess |
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| May-01-07 | | geraldo8187: Waitzkin talks about quitting chess in this youtube video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MMBGUlOx... |
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| May-01-07 | | CapablancaRuyLopez: No doubt that Josh had tremendous pressure!!!Everybody expected him to win against every opponent!!He reason for leaving chess in my opinion is understandable!!!Im the type of person that would want Josh back playing chess to see what he could do against players such as Magnus Carlsen, Topalov, Kramnik, Shirov, Short, and other Top GMs! |
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| May-01-07 | | PizzatheHut: Basically what I heard him say in the video was "The pressure was too much, I pussed out". |
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| May-01-07 | | AVA: <MaxxLange> Tal Shaked is more active than you may think...he will probably return to chess in the next couple of years |
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| May-01-07 | | geraldo8187: <Capa> Waitzkin would first have to get to GM status. He had enough trouble in his heyday against American FMs and IMs. To compare him to any of those people you name is quite ridiculous. <Ava> Do you know something that we don't? |
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| May-02-07 | | vesivialvy93: <geraldo8187> thx for the video !
I think Waitzkin is right and this was very hard for him to play with the pressure all the time against oponents who plays all to their best against him only to say "hey i beat the little genius in the movie " and the fact that he failed to become a GM was a nightmare for him over time ...and i think without the pressure maybe he would have been a GM , not a super GM for sure ! not good enough to play with Carlsen ,topalov , Kramnik , Shirov ect...even after 10 years of training !
...as i said previously his stupid father can be proud of himself now...
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| May-10-07 | | Knight13: http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTn... Seems like after he stopped improving he quit serious chess! |
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| May-10-07 | | argishti: bring him back. someone. anyone. |
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| May-12-07 | | Knight13: <...as i said previously his stupid father can be proud of himself now...> I agree. His father destroyed his chess life.
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| May-16-07 | | pazzed paun: Josh book is out and has already been given some reviews |
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| Jun-01-07 | | realbrob: Well, after all the guy is 31 and I suppose he hasn't forgotten how to play chess yet, so he might always decide to come back. I think he played well and that he can be a GM, how strong.. Nobody can tell. I wonder whether his oriental philosophy about being in harmony with everything wasn't a disadvantage in serious chess competition.. I mean, think of Bobby Fischer or Garry Kasparov himself, they weren't so much in harmony with their opponents, were they? |
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