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Jan-24-05 | | weirdoid: I cannot resist the temptation of putting this quote here - in fact this is my favourite Duchamp quote about anything at all: Chess players are madmen of a certain quality, the way the artist is supposed to be, and isn't, in general. I quote it verbatim from http://www.chessville.com/misc/Quot... . You could find many chess related quotes there. |
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Jan-24-05 | | suenteus po 147: <weirdoid> If it was really quoted verbatim, I'm guessing it would be in french. |
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Jan-26-05 | | weirdoid: <suenteus po 147> Please don't be a stickler like that. Back when I was a young man, er, a little kid, my mom used to correct me like that when I said something not strictly correct, but you know, you are too young to have been my mother. Ooops ... I hope I am not offending any ladies here. But who cares, the two ladies closest to me (my mom + little sister) are funniest when annoyed anyway. |
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Jan-27-05 | | suenteus po 147: <weirdoid> I apologize. I was in "English professor" mode that morning. I imagine it's like kibitzing drunk for other users. |
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Jan-27-05 | | weirdoid: <suenteus po 147> No need to apologize - myself, I was just kidding with my reply as well. You know, I checked your profile and found out you are a guy, and that is why I said you are too young to have been my mom! |
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Jan-27-05 | | OneBadDog: Wasn't the battle cry for the dadaist movment "drain the canals of Venice and burn all the museums"? |
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Jan-27-05 | | acirce: You're thinking of the futurists, I think. Marinetti said that (or something very similar). |
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Jan-27-05 | | OneBadDog: Duchamp also used a urinal as a readymade. |
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Apr-07-05
 | | BishopBerkeley: Nice article (with good images) on Duchamp's Chess-related art not only shows one of his Chess set designs, but also a poster he created for the 1925 French Chess Championship: http://www.toutfait.com/issues/issu... The Chess set is not only aesthetically pleasing (to me), but it looks quite playable. The poster is also elegant. (Did Duchamp participate in the 1925 tournament?) Many worthwhile images here.
From the article:
Marcel Duchamp's obsession with chess, for which he professed to "quit" making art in the early 1920s, has been meticulously documented by critics and historians. Virtually all of the principal studies of Duchamp's career make reference to his lifelong association with the game, from his early drawings and paintings to his pursuit of the French Chess Championship. However, despite the abundance of literature concerning Duchamp's many chess-related activities, scholars have, for the most part, neglected to regard the history of the game as a potential resource for imagery in Duchamp's work. One segment of the history of chess, the evolution and symbolism of the individual chess pieces, may have been particularly appealing to Duchamp. In fact, one of the chief elements of Duchamp's monumental The Bride Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors, Even or The Large Glass of 1915-23 (Fig. 1), namely the Nine Malic Molds, appears to have been derived from chess-piece history. [end quote]
This is the main page of Tout-Fait, the Marcel Duchamp Studies Online Journal: http://www.toutfait.com/
(: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
Nihil obstat. |
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Apr-29-05 | | pubs r us: I just want to point out that Duchamp's urninal was recently selected as the most influential work of art of the 20th century in a poll of artists. http://lefttochance.com/node/289 |
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May-04-05 | | vonKrolock: This Duchamp quote <"Chess pieces are the block alphabet, which shapes thoughts; and these thoughts, although making a visual design on the chessboard, express their beauty abstractly, like a poem."
Marcel Duchamp> Must sounds delightfull in the French original |
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May-23-05 | | Benzol: Man Ray wrote about Duchamp's marriage in 1927 - "Duchamp spent most of the one week they lived together studying chess problems, and his bride, in desperate retaliation, got up one night when he was asleep and glued the chess pieces to the board. They were divorced three months later". |
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Jul-28-05 | | duchamp64: Happy Birthday Marcel! Your silence is deafening "with hidden noise." |
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Dec-06-05 | | BaranDuin: <In 1925 he had his chances to become the French chess champion of France.> It seems quite logical to me that the french champion is French. |
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Dec-06-05 | | square dance: well, it could always be some random uzbek. |
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Dec-06-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Yes, to become champion of "random uzbekistan" :) |
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Jan-05-06 | | sucaba: His oeuvre still provokes some people:
<Duchamp's urinal artwork vandalized in Paris>,
see http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/nation... |
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Jan-05-06 | | mack: Well that's a shame that is, I love my Duchamp I do. Seems a bit odd that the same man would have attacked Fountain twice. |
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Mar-22-06
 | | BishopBerkeley: Hell hath no fury...
"From his early thirties, Duchamp abandoned art for chess as a truly obsessive addict. Man Ray commented on Duchamp's marriage to Lydie Levassor-Sarrazin in 1927: 'Duchamp spent most of the one week they lived together studying chess problems, and his bride, in desperate retaliation, got up one night when he was asleep and glued the chess pieces to the board. They were divorced three months later.' "Another friend, Roche, remarked: 'He needed a good chess game just as a baby needs his bottle.'" [the above passage is quoted in the interesting book, "The 64-Square Looking Glass: The Great Game of Chess in World Literature," edited by Burt Hochberg (p. 21-22): http://tinyurl.com/pc6m3 . The work of which it is an excerpt is "The Poetry of Chess" by Andrew Waterman. Mr. Waterman, in turn, is quoting Pierre Cabanne's "Dialogues with Marcel Duchamp" who, in turn, is quoting Man Ray. (Aren't primary sources wonderful?!?) ] But is poor Duchamp sitting in front of his sadly static Chessboard as pitiable a husband as this poor fellow? [From a book dated 1813, bearing the name of François André Philidor , from the chapter titled "Anecdotes"] "Ferdinand, Count of Flanders,
Having been accustomed to amuse himself at Chess with his wife, and being constantly beaten by her, a mutual hatred took place; which came to such an height, that when the count was taken prisoner at Bovines, she suffered him to remain a long time in prison, though she could easily have procured his release...." Alas, poor Count! Condemned to sit there and Count the days... You may view the anecdote, along with a nice biographical bit on Philidor at: http://batgirl.atspace.com/ChessAne...
(: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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May-05-06
 | | offramp: <mack: Well that's a shame that is, I love my Duchamp I do. Seems a bit odd that the same man would have attacked Fountain twice.> Perhaps he was trying to get his 1-franc piece back. |
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Jun-09-06
 | | BishopBerkeley: Nice Photograph of Duchamp sitting in front of a chess set designed by Max Ernst, 1968 [simply click the photo for a larger version]: http://www.toutfait.com/issues/issu... (: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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Jun-09-06
 | | BishopBerkeley: Here's a nice Escher-esque Chessboard:
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Illus... (: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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Jul-28-06 | | duchamp64: Happy Birthday!! Your "Opposition" has long been reconciled. |
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Jul-28-06 | | BIDMONFA: Marcel Duchamp DUCHAMP, Marcel
http://www.bidmonfa.com/duchamp_mar...
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Jul-29-06 | | PhilFeeley: You should have the "Marcel Duchamp plays chess with a naked model in the Pasadena Art museum" photo instead!
http://chessedinburgh.co.uk/chandle... |
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