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|May-19-15|| ||TheFocus: <If a poor musician had come upon him ... The extreme kindheartedness and absence of Philidor knew no resistance to the appeal for charity, and precluded all discrimination of means. He gave whatever he could lay his hands on - coat, hat, shoes ...> (on Philidor) - George Allen.|
|May-22-15|| ||zanzibar: Uh, I thought <CG> only used ascii-characters in the player names, right?!|
|Aug-23-15|| ||TheFocus: Philidor once said: "Pawns are the soul of chess."
He also said: "Fish eyes are the windows to the sole."
|Oct-25-15|| ||keypusher: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/22/are-...|
Composer, master, securities fraudster?
|Oct-27-15|| ||keypusher: Affiliates of Philidor involved in the case have names like Isolani and Lucena, some of which are accused of concealing their relationship to Philidor. This is where a little chess erudition would come in handy.|
|Feb-26-16|| ||ketchuplover: He belongs in the world chess hall of fame imo. Should have been the first member too.|
|Apr-11-16|| ||RookFile: I played over some of his games, and think he was stronger than Steinitz.|
|Sep-07-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Philidor, who once said, "I have a Pawn stuck to the sole of my shoe."|
|May-03-17|| ||bobmeadley: Philidor's games in his 1749 first edition are considered by many to be unreal games. Or 'manufactured' for his book. There are only 9 and the Aleppo Gambit game looks like one between Philidor and Stamma.
But this is my speculation. Does anyone have any proof either way?|
|May-03-17|| ||Petrosianic: <bobmeadley>: <Does anyone have any proof either way?>|
Of course not. You can't speculate blindly about something centuries later, and then expect to find proof of the speculation. If there were proof, the matter would have been settled long ago and the speculation would never have happened at all.
|May-03-17|| ||Sally Simpson: In 'Analyse du jeu des Échecs' 1749, Philidor <analysed> 9 openings.|
|May-27-17|| ||bobmeadley: To Petrosianic. Von der Lasa stated in his Supplement in Allen that the 1749 games were manufactured and as we have no early Philidor games would it not be a good thing if those games were given a 21st century examination? There are many finds today in many fields that change views of the past surely?|
|Jun-07-17|| ||mifralu: Rousseau -- Philidor (played in Paris at the Café Procope)
click for larger view
Jean-Jacques Rousseau announced mate in nine moves!
<1. fxg6+ Kh8 2. g7+ Kg8 3. gxf8=Q+ Kxf8 4. Qg7+ Ke8 5.Nxd6+ Rxd6 6. Qg8+ Kd7 7. Qxf7+ Kd8 8. Qc7+ Ke8 9. Qe7# 1-0>
|Jul-26-17|| ||zanzibar: Is it because he's French that he's fuppofed to be peft Chefs-player in the World?|
|Jul-26-17|| ||zanzibar: <jnpope> it would be nice if you used forward-slashes in your FEN (from the game above)!|
|Jul-26-17|| ||zanzibar: <jnpope>, ah, I see you noted the forward/backwards slash issue - still, adding an extra space is easier to undo.|
(When, oh when, is <CG> going to get a verbatim mode).
As for chess programs which can play over such games - with weird castling - my Q-side/K-side program allows you to play it over by hand (not by reading in the PGN however).
I'm not sure how useful that is, but it does allow one to play over the game on a computer screen (sans engine at the moment).
|Sep-07-17|| ||ketchuplover: Happy birthday young man. All chess games played today begin with your opening imo.|
|Sep-07-17|| ||The Kings Domain: The true father of modern Chess.|
|Jan-26-18|| ||Kaspablanca: His name was Francois Andre Danican, Danican was his last name whereas Philidor was his nickname.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||offramp: <Kaspablanca: His name was Francois Andre Danican, Danican was his last name whereas Philidor was his nickname.>|
Yes. It is from the French <Philo d'or> which means <lover of gold>. He really liked gold, apparently.
|May-26-18|| ||zanzibar: What's in a name? (golden put-ons or otherwise...)|
You have, of course, heard of the great French chess-player, Philidor. He got his Italian name in a curious way. In the Chapel Royal at Versailles there was an orchestra of musicians that took part in the religious services. Among them was an Italian named Philidor. It happened that this man fell ill and died, and his place was supplied by a Frenchman named Danican. One morning the king, Louis XIV., on passing the orchestra on his way to his seat in the chapel, mistook Danican for Philidor, and nodding to him said, "I am glad to see you back in your place, Philidor!" Now it was a point of etiquette in the French court not to allow the king to make a mistake. When he was a child, he said one day, "Portez mon carrosse!" He ought to have said, "ma carrosse," since the word is of the feminine gender, but the polite French at once adopted the royal infant's change of gender, and the word remains to this day masculine. In like manner Danican became Philidor, and to this odd circumstance the great chess master is indebted for his name.
The ante-room to the Royal Chapel was occupied by the musicians in the intervals of the services, and being so near the sacred precinct they were not allowed to play games of chance, but chess was allowed. The boy Philidor frequently accompanied his father to the chapel, and was fond of watching the chess, and soon became himself a good player. One of the most skilful chess-players among the musicians was a man named Legalle, who frequently played with young Philidor. Now the only game of Legalle's that has been preserved is one in which he gives the odds of the Q R; ...
tBOP v13 N642 (May 2, 1891) 495/527 (17)
Of course this story of the origin is slightly at odds with CW, but has anybody traced the sourcing of the CW?
(I have, maybe will post it later to possibly compare notes)
I do like this story though.
|May-26-18|| ||zanzibar: Oh, and a word about the source:
<By Prof. Tomlinson, F.R.S.
[Professor Charles Tomliiison, F.R.S., who is now the oldest writer in chess living, for he was born in London on November 27, 1808, and among whose works his "Amusements in Chess" (London, 1845) is unsurpassed by any other book of the kind, has forwarded us the following capital short article.]>
|May-26-18|| ||zanzibar: What's in a name (II)?
And lest you begin wondering what F.R.S. adds to a name...
|Apr-17-19|| ||offramp: Philidor wrote music for Masonic rituals.
The first performance of his <Carmen Saeculare> was performed at Freemasons' Hall in London in 1779.
He was a member of the renowned Parisian Lodge <Les Neuf Soeurs>. This Lodge had an allied society for musicians, called the <Société Apollonienne.>
|Apr-17-19|| ||ChessHigherCat: Lots of good stuff about Philidor as a "coffee-shop player" in Diderot's "Le Neveu de Rameau". The last sentence will teach us all some valuable new information:|
<If the weather is too cold or too rainy, I take refuge in the Regency Café. I like to watch the games of chess. The best chess players in the world are in Paris, and the best players in Paris are in the Regency Café. Here, in Rey's establishment, they battle it out--Legal the Profound, Philidor the Subtle, Mayot the Solid. One sees the most surprising moves and hears the stupidest remarks. For one can be an intelligent man and a great chess player, like Legal, but one can also be a great chess player and a fool, like Foubert and Mayot.>
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