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|Jul-31-10|| ||vonKrolock: Some of his Operas: "Blaise le Savetier" (1759), "Emelinde Princesse de Norvège" (<"peut-être l'un des chefs-d'œuvre de Philidor"> according to Le Scribe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLJv...|
"Le Soldat magicien" (1760), "Le Jardin et son seigneur" (1761),
"Le Maréchal ferrant" (1761) with the 'Trio des Ânes' (the donkey's trio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50B9... ,
the Aria 'Oui, je suis expert' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQh... ,
Recitativo and Aria 'Brillant dans mon emploi' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9wu...
<nota bene: in that channel, it seems that André, Philidor's father, and his son are confounded - author is François-André, the son>
"Le Sorder"(1762), "Le Sorcier" (1764) , "Tom Jones" (1765) after H. Fielding's novel,
"Sancho Pança, Gouverneur dans l'Isle de Baratariais" (1762), performed in the USA (Wahington), in 2010. With Darren Perry (as Sancho Pança), Elizabeth Calleo (Thérèse), etc, the Opera Lafayette Orchestra conducted by Ryan Brown.
Chessical talk by Bruce Pandolfini before one of the performances http://www.chesscafe.com/skittles/s...
|Aug-03-10|| ||vonKrolock: better reading <<ERN->> <<"E<<rn>>elinde, princesse de Norvège">> (Paris 1767, reprise in Versailles 1773)
some other titles:
"L'Amant déguisé, ou Le Jardinier supposé" (1769) ; "L'Huître et les plaideurs, ou Le Tribunal de la chicane" (1759) etc
Amongst his favorite colaborators, were librettista Michel Jean Sedaine (1719-1797), and prima-donna Marie-Thérèse Laruette (1744-1837)
|Aug-03-10|| ||vonKrolock: Some rewiews of the American "Sancho Pança" : the W. P. (by Anne Midgette) <..."a simple but adroit piece of work, with strong ensembles interspersed with set solo arias, and pat verse songs juxtaposed with rambling humorous monologues.".> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...|
Tim Smith, 'The Baltimore Sun' <"The score reflects the composer's gift for charming melodic lines and colorful orchestration, not to mention occasionally vivid harmonic turns. Every now and then, the quality of the music really was striking, even -- dare I say? -- almost evocative of Mozart. "> http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/ent...
Charles Downey, from 'Ionarts', quotes a contemporary criticism: <"on July 15, 1762 -- within days of hearing the premiere -- Baron von Grimm noted in his Correspondance littéraire with Diderot..."> ... <"A poet who could not make something of the governorship of Sancho Pança should be strangled. M. Poinsinet did not know how to provide situations to the composer either. Except for the scene with the coward who fights with Sancho, dying of fear just like him, I hardly see anything in it that merits the name of situation; and worse, most of the airs do not have much effect. M. Philidor spent a lot on harmony and noise, and not much on melody or musical ideas. He repeated himself in several places; in others he borrowed bits from On ne s'avise jamais de tout and even Annette et Lubin. In a word, this new work by M. Philidor will not hold up to the reputation of Le maréchal ferrant."> http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2010/05...
|Aug-07-10|| ||vonKrolock: Rating list (avant-la-lettre) of the most popular Comic Operas'
composers (public performances in Paris between 1771 and 1780) 1
Grétry 1.222 (17); Monsigny 661 (10); 3 Duni 461 (10); 4 <Philidor>
with 458 performances of (11) different titles, then follow Dezède 160
(8), Martini 139 (3), Gossec 102 (2) etc
Ranking, also for the period 1771-80 , of the most performed operas:
1 "Le Déserteur" (Monsigny) 154; 2 "Lucile" (Grétry) 142; 3 "Le Roi et
le Fermier" (Monsigny) 141; 4 "Rose et Collas" (Monsigny) 133; "Zémire
et Azor" (Grétry) 128; <<"om Jones">> <(hilido)> 124; then
follow works by Sacchini, Duni , Martini with his "L'Amoureux de 15
Ans" from 1771 with 102 etc
Next to "Tom Jones" (here an extract from an English
performance with Brian Burrows etc)
Philidor's most popular operas were "Le Maréchal Ferrant" and "Le
Sorcier" with sixty performances each. His success was quite standing,
was the only title retired from the repertoire was "Le Jardinier de
Sidon", while his last work to appear in that period, "Les Femmes
Vengées", had forty-six presentations since 1775
"Ernelinde" was a 'serious' opera, and regarded by the critics as an
invasion attempt by the Italian style - but nonetheless studied and
copied, by Philidor's rivals, for it's novelties. More specificly, the
ambitious Grétry, was caught, in post-mortem analysis, borrowing <sic
'unashamedly' - op. cit.> from both Monsigny and Philidor
(account based in researches by David Charlton in his important work
"Grétry & the Growth of Opéra-Comique (CUP 1986)
|Aug-22-10|| ||vonKrolock: <"Le Diable à quatre, ou La double métamorphose"> text by Michel-Jean Sedaine, was composed partly by Philidor, and the remaining by Jean-Louis Laruette, and staged in 1756. ( <!!> Therefore before 'Blaise')|
further titles not quoted in the above posts:
<"Le Quiproquo, ou Le volage fixé"> 1760; <"Le Bûcheron, ou Les trois souhaits"> 1763; <"Les Fêtes de la paix "> 1763; <"Le Tonnelier"> 1765; <"La Nouvelles École des femmes "> 1770;
< "Le Bon Fils"> 1773; <"Zémire et Mélide"> 1773
<"Protogène"> 1779 (unfinished score available);
<"Persée"> 1780 this one is a 'lyrical tragedy', performed in Paris, at the Académie Royale de Musique in 1780;
<"Thémistocle"> , also a tragedy, 1785;
<"L'Amitié au village"> comedy 1785;
<" La Belle Esclave, ou Valcour et Zéïla"> Philidor music for this 'comédie en prose'>presented in 1787 Paris, in the Théâtre du Comte de Beaujolais, where also wa presented <"Le Mari comme il les faudrait tous, ou La nouvelle école des maris"> in 1788
Philidor's last Opera, <"Bélisaire"> with libretto by Bertin d'Antilly, staged posthumously in October 3th 1796, was finished by composer Henry Berton.
(source for this post so far: operone.de)
<"Carmen Saeculare">, with texts in Latin by Horace, is a profane 'Oratorio'. Presented first in London, in 1779, and then in Paris, in 1780
caution <?!> with the title 'Le Sorder' - found just in one amateur french source: more details?!
|Aug-31-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Evidently there were several generations of composers in the Philidor family, like the Bachs, but not at that level. Danican was the original family name, the name Philidor was given to one of FAP's ancestors by Louis XIII in the 17th century.|
|Dec-27-10|| ||myschkin: . . .
"Philidor and the Café de la Régence Chess Masters"
"Crescendo of the virtuoso"
(P.1, Ch.1, 17ff, by Paul Metzner, 1998)
|Jan-29-11|| ||chancho: François-André Danican Philidor - Pavane pour la petite guaire |
Starts at 0:11...
|Jan-29-11|| ||Xeroxx: He hasn't been playing much lately.|
|Feb-22-11|| ||SirChrislov: More Philidor games:
|Jun-24-11|| ||vonKrolock: <"Tom Jones" (here an extract from an English performance with Brian Burrows> correct link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8NL... and the Aria <"Ô toi qui ne peux m'entendre"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8SO...|
Further pair of arias from Philidor sung by the same C. Eda-Pierre
<"Tout dormait"> From "Mélide ou le navigateur " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ct...
and the comical <"De la Coquette volage"> from "Les Femmes vengées" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9EY...
...but that <"Pavane pour la petite guaire">, so typically Seventeenth-century music - is by an older Philidor, for sure
|Aug-25-11|| ||whiteshark: Quote of the Day
< Skittles are the social glasses of chess - indulged in too freely they lead to inebriation, and weaken the consistent effort necessary to build up a strong game. >
-- André Philidor
|Sep-01-11|| ||sfm: When asked about the greatest player of all time Larsen said something like: "Philidor! As I can think of no better way to evaluate that question, than to look at how much the greatest player of the time was ahead of their contemporaries".|
|Sep-07-12|| ||rapidcitychess: Years beyond his time...
Happy birthday, if you can hear me.
|Sep-07-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: WC Philidor, today you are remembered!
|Oct-31-12|| ||Conrad93: I don't think he years beyond his time, more like generations. His ideas are astoundingly modern.|
|May-21-13|| ||Expendable Asset: You can still obtain a copy of Philidor's book <Analysis of the Game of Chess> here: http://www.amazon.com/Analysis-Ches....|
Book description: <This is an EXACT reproduction of a book published before 1923. This IS NOT an OCR'd book with strange characters, introduced typographical errors, and jumbled words. This book may have occasional imperfections such as missing or blurred pages, poor pictures, errant marks, etc. that were either part of the original artifact, or were introduced by the scanning process. We believe this work is culturally important, and despite the imperfections, have elected to bring it back into print as part of our continuing commitment to the preservation of printed works worldwide. We appreciate your understanding of the imperfections in the preservation process, and hope you enjoy this valuable book.>
|May-21-13|| ||ketchuplover: Happy birthday and RIP or vice-versa.|
|May-21-13|| ||brankat: <ketchuplover> <Happy birthday and RIP or vice-versa.> Apparently neither :-)|
FRANçOIS ANDRé PHILIDOR
(born Sep-07-1726, died Aug-31-1795) France
|Sep-07-13|| ||brankat: Today is the day.|
|Sep-07-13|| ||twinlark: <Conrad> Finally something to agree with! Indeed Philidor was ridiculously ahead of his time. The first deep thinker of the game.|
|Sep-07-13|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. To one of the best players who ever lived.|
|Jan-23-14|| ||Karpova: A question:
In his article on Philidor's Blindfold play on pages 202-206 of the July-August 1912 'Wiener Schachzeitung', Krejcik annotates these three games from a blindfold Simul:
J Bruehl vs Philidor, 1783
T Bowdler vs Philidor, 1783
Maseres vs Philidor, 1783
The games are introduced (p. 203) by a quote from the <London News-Papers vom 8. Mai 1785> and the first sentence reads <Gestern hat Philidor im Schach-Klub in der St. Jamesstreet [...].> which says that Philidor gave a 3-player blindfold Simul yesterday, i. e. May 7, 1785.
Now, the three games here are all dated 1783, only the one against Maseres more detailed as May 8, 1783.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C... has May 9, 1783, but without a source.
Von Mauvillon ('Anweisung zur Erlernung des Schach-Spiels, mit besonderer Rücksicht auf diejenigen, denen das Spiel durchaus unbekannt ist', 1827) has May 8, 1785: http://books.google.de/books?id=7iU...
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibit... has 1783, but the date May 8 appears questionable (perhaps Philidor drawing Brühl, beating Jennings and Erskine) and May 26 as the Brühl-Bowdler-Mazieres(Maseres) display according to the 'Whitehall Evening Post'.
<SBC> got a two-game blindfold Simul on May 8, 1783, against Brühl and Bowdler (and possibly Atwood): http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Phil... giving the very Brühl game.
So my question: Is 1783 or 1785 correct and what about the exact date? Is it May 8 only because of a newspaper of that day? I wouldn't be surprised if 1785 was a typo or Krejcik followed an incorrect, earlier source, but want to bring up this issue. In my opinion, it seems as if these games were played in May 1783. But the day may not be that clear.
|Jan-23-14|| ||thomastonk: <Karpova> I've the "Whitehall Evening Post" of May 27 - 29 (!?), 1783 before me. The text is:|
"Monday, at the Chess Club in St.James's street, Mr. Philidor performed one of those wonderful exhibitions for which he is so much celebrated. He played at the same time three different games without seeing either of the tables. His opponents were Compte Bruhl and Dr. Browdler (the two best players in London) and Mr. Mazieres. He defeated Compte Bruhl in an hour and twenty minutes, and Mr. Mazieres in two hours. Dr. Browdler reduced his game to a drawn battle in an hour and three quarters. [...]"
(I've left out the text that you can find in the kibitzer issue.)
There are no game scores.
The same article appeared in the "Morning Herald and Daily Advertiser" (London) on May 28, 1783.
|Jan-23-14|| ||Karpova: <thomastonk>
Thank you very much! As the 'Whitehall Evening Post' you quoted refers to Monday, it establishes the date of the 3-player blindfold Simul as May 26, 1783 - as this is the date of Monday of that week according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Grea...
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