It starts with his analysis of the godless, Marxist convention featuring, among other people, Michelle Obama.

heh heh

Look at some of these comments.

"I don't even wanna see Mike oboma face again and I dont care what he think's"

"worshipping at the size 14 feet of "michelle" obama"

"suprising youtube allowing comments on big mike the female impersonator"

"Since when did Micheal Obama love the country?? Just fits her lieing hating attitude toward Americans."

"STOP CALLING HIM,A HER!"

"I see Michael is still spending loads of money on transition medicine."

"Mike Obummer believes his own lies. A total narcissist."

<<Optimal>, my thinking going into this kind of dialogue is that I realize almost no one will agree with me at first. It's too shocking. It's too much, too quickly....>>

Still sounds like forbidden fruit.

Being too shocking, giving too much, too quickly, never seemed to concern you on Rogoff forum 1.0

My guess is, nothing you say will be as shocking as my own various thoughts that I've contemplated most of my life.

Look at some of these comments.>

And here I thought it was my 15 minutes of fame finally kicking in. Well...

<Do you see my disagreements with <diceman> and <optimal play>? > Correct. Although are any of those actually liberal?

<Liberals are on the left here. They are in rebellion against God, therefore they want to normalize all things antichristian. They seek liberty from God first and foremost. > Got it. You see liberalism as an anti-Christian movement, rather than a political philosophy.

I would say that liberalism is liberty from anything oppressing the individual; most importantly <the state>, of course religion comes into play as well but only if this is an oppressive factor.

That's different because the debate there was about God and it was to the godless, the wicked, the libs. My assumption there is that they <know> that God exists and choose to deny it, and that is how I operated, according to my audience.

This is different because unlike the godless libs, I do not think you most of the people here <know I'm right about democracy> and are only denying it. I think they believe in democracy, so it requires a different approach.

The other point is that one's thoughts on democracy is not a matter of soul and death. This is not doing God's work, as it were.

With this it's different because it's shocks conservatives to hear another conservative Christian denounce democracy.

One must adjust persuasion techniques depending on the audience.

Ask them if they are liberals.

But, you just said it was close to an echo chamber. Just because these posters aren't libs doesn't mean it's an echo chamber, as you can see from our recent discussions.

< You see liberalism as an anti-Christian movement, rather than a political philosophy>

I see no need for those to be mutually exclusive.

Movements are grounded on a philosophy.

Liberalism is the science and art of justifying sin. That's what lies at the very bottom of it. From there we have other support structures in service of that aim, such as postmodernism, which seeks to deny that truth exists. This is philosophical support for liberalism. Nihilism and later, existentialism is a search for meaning and an attempt to overcome the absurdity of life sans God. It too is a philosophical support for liberalism.

The main oppressor in the liberal worldview is God and His right way. If the state creates laws for a moral society based on Christian values, then liberalism considers this oppression, because it's forcing things to be God's way, and liberals want to be liberated from God (I argue that Satan is the first liberal), so they view such moral laws as oppressive.

The liberal says, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law." God wants us to be righteous and not be like animals, subject to our passions and lusts, but to overcome that and be like God, or strive to be like God.

The liberal says, "I don't want to do that. Who says that that's right anyways?"

And the answer is, "God. Read His word and be righteous". So the liberals says, "I want to have homo sex and God doesn't like it, so, I don't believe God exists. How do you like that?"

Then the smart libs go to college, study philosophy, and write books attempting to justify their lusts, passions and sin by coming up with arguments that take God out of the picture, thus giving humankind the green light to indulge in their passions.

Liberalism, and all of its supporting philosophies, attempts to justify greed, lust, covetousness, murder, adultery and gluttony. It attempts to eliminate the shame associated with these sins.

Conservatism, as I see it, accepts that God exists and the conservative's worldview is based on the logical consequences of this starting point. The conservative seeks a world in which was is right is given preference over our passions, where justice (meaning a moral society) is greater than self satisfaction, indulgence and the scratching of one's own itches.

The conservative's worldview is in line with truth and reality, therefore commonsense is on his side. The liberal's worldview is outside of truth (just ask a postmodern!) and reality, therefore common sense is often against him. Therefore, it is easy to defend the conservative worldview and impossible to defend the liberal worldview. In every case, the liberal worldview necessarily ends up being a self-refuting one.

Given the fundamental difference here between conservatism and liberalism, it follows that conservatism sets out to create a world of law, order, morality, love and godliness.

Let the Lurking Reader see.

This will allow me to post if I want and people can comment on that too, but the Free Speech Zone will function as a sort of lounge, or symposium if you like, where any topic goes, just like Other Page used to be.

I'm not sure if I'll post much as I'm not really trying to start a website or blog that needs to be kept fresh with new content all the time, although that would be fun, but my main focus is to create a place that is <TRULY CENSOR FREE>.

I will not allow porn and etc, to be placed there of course. This is a free speech zone for discussion of politics, philosophy, religion, society, culture and the arts.

You have to register an account to post comments. First comment must be approved by the admin but then your comments are published as soon as you post them.

Registering an account makes you a member. Members get a profile page. You are also able to follow your favorite posters, just like on this site.

I just finished making it https so it's secure.

The <LIBS> will be lurking there, no doubt, secretly reading everything, hating every minute of it, yet powerless to escape its siren call.

heh

I made this site for the Elite Posters to have a place to speak freely, without the girls being able to censor them. It won't be fun to post there unless there are at least a few people that become regulars.

Therefore, I invite <Keyser>, <diceman>, <gezafan>, <ohio>, <troller>, <optimal play>, <tga>, <mort>, <bobsterman>, and the <libs> who are not on my ignore list.

The way I see it is the Other Page is dying, especially now that the conservative posters aren't putting up with the censorship over there (making the place NOZZLE'S PLAYPEN now) and it's drying up. We have a good crew of Elite Posters but the group could die out due to CG no longer being a free speech zone, now that Daniel has passed.

Before we all end up drifting our separate ways, I figured to make this website so that we can get used to posting there and not have to worry about what happens here.

This is a good site for chess, but many of us spend 99% of our time here on politics and all that's related to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSh...

<The Book Club: Brave New World by Aldous Huxley with Sen. Ted Cruz>

The host and Cruz raise some interesting points about the book, a couple of which I touched on in my review, and some I hadn't thought of.

Big Pawn chessforum (kibitz #3689)

Looks good.

If enough people post there it should be interesting.

Of course if your forum here continues as is without interference or erasure from the female admins, then there may not be any need for another forum, which would only duplicate what we're doing now, but in any event it's good to have a backup.

<The way I see it is the Other Page is dying, especially now that the conservative posters aren't putting up with the censorship over there>

Prompted by your remark I just went over to have a look at Nozzle's playpen and on the current page read this:

<Aug-18-20 Premium Chessgames Member al wazir: Participation lately by right-wing kibitzers has been shockingly low>

Well ... how about that?

They miss us!

Too bad for them.

Now that they're left to wallow in their own squalor with nobody intelligent to talk to, they finally begin to appreciate the value that we brought to that forum.

Too late now.

They didn't know what they had till it was gone, i.e. intelligent, thought-provoking, interesting, insightful commentary.

Now who do they have to talk to? Nozzle the Parrot, Larry the Idiot, Perf the Poker Player, and the other brain-dead, gibberish-spewing retards.

Well, they can blame Nozzle and the female admins for that.

Indeed.

<Now who do they have to talk to? Nozzle the Parrot, Larry the Idiot, Perf the Poker Player, and the other brain-dead, gibberish-spewing retards.

Well, they can blame Nozzle and the female admins for that.>

Spot on!

The coddling, political correctness and censorship make it uninteresting to post at the Other Page and, having took a look at it yesterday, we aren't missing anything at all.

The libs have quit fighting back. They gave up. That coupled with the censorship and coddling of the beta males makes it too boring to post there.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/19/poli...

The big deal is that Trump tweeted congrats to her. The libs see this as unthinkable because of her views on Nazis, uh, er, I mean Muzzies.

<Loomer is one of the most high-profile figures of this movement -- and one of its most controversial. She has described Islam as a "cancer on humanity" and said that Muslim candidates should not be allowed to hold office in America. She has called herself a "proud Islamophobe." That behavior has led to Loomer being banned from Twitter, Facebook and Instagram -- not to mention ride-sharing services Uber and Lyft. (She tweeted in 2018 that "someone needs to create a non Islamic form of Uber or Lyft because I never want to support another Islamic immigrant driver.")>

We love you Laura!

Here's Trump's tweet.

<Trump rewarded that support with a tweet touting Loomer's win on Tuesday night. "Great going Laura," he wrote. "You have a great chance against a Pelosi puppet!">

That district is heavily Democrat, so I think the chances are slim, but the president supports her big time. Here's what the libs are saying.

<CNN's Andrew Kaczynski noted just how stunning a presidential endorsement for Loomer should be. "Remarkable to see a president endorse a candidate who said Muslims shouldn't have be allowed to hold public office and called Islam 'a cancer on humanity,'" he tweeted. "In a normal administration this would be a huge story but it will barely get mentioned.">

Why is it okay to say that Nazis are a cancer on humanity but not okay to say that Muzzies are a cancer on humanity?

Is it because Muzzies are mostly colored people?

<Police Investigate Shootings in Brooklyn, Manhattan as Weekend Gun Violence Continues Into Workweek>

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/0...

<It has been a violent and deadly weekend for New York City.

The NYPD says seven people were killed and 51 injured in shootings since Friday.>

Libs shooting libs. Lib local government failing as only a lib government can. Libs are soft on crime, therefore they get more crime. Libs are immoral, therefore they are shooting each other.

Why not just make Chicago a gun free zone?

heh heh heh

Lib IDIOTS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2O...

"Even the police are scared what the Dems will be like in office. With this endorsement good night Dems."

"As an Australian,I've been following and supporting Trump before he became president. Come November, he will win by a historic landslide, the biggest in American history. The reason for my theory is the push to defund the police by the left/blm/antifa. Any sane American (that's the majority), does not want that to happen as community safety is a priority for their family. Without law and order, there will be anarchy, a free for all if you will. But don't be complacent, get out there and vote this Nov! (I'd vote for Trump too if I could) TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸"

"Not tired of Trump winning yet. Keep 'em coming"

"Love seeing demotards ignore everything he has done. Shows how salty the miserable bastards are"

"If they weren't so dangerous the Democrats would be the biggest joke in the world"

"It’s called ‘Project Fear’ we experienced it here in the U.K. for 4 years, Doom and gloom, all negativity. it was going to be Catastrophic if the people didn’t vote for the extreme Left. God help us all if these extremists ever get into power, they are destroying law and order and family life. Trump is the only man who can turn this around, the world needs saving and Donald Trump is the man to do it!"

"BLM and Antifa will cost the Democrats victory in the election."

"The only thing unifying the left now is hatred of Trump. They’ve got a chronic case of TDS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2O...

Excellent news indeed! I hadn't heard about this yet, but then again, I'm not much tuned into the news.

<Optimal>, something that strikes me as interesting is that judging by the video you shared, it seems as though people in Australia follow the US election almost as closely as we do. The host on the video knew all about Cuomo being a socialist and all the details. I see from the comments that Aussies are into the election! They have Trump 2020 in their comments and things like that. If they didn't say they were Australian, I would think they were Americans.

The Aussies commenting on this video, and the host himself, seem to not only follow American politics closely, but they also seem to be emotionally invested, or perhaps I could say passionately invested, in the cultural struggle that underlies the political struggle.

Australians who are interested in our own politics tend to have an interest in world affairs, in particular U.S. politics, due to American influence and the fact you are our major ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xz...

"Reparations is just code for "I'm too lazy to work so gimme free stuff"."