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| May-28-12 | | Karpova: Ignored correction:
Previous: Rubinstein vs Alekhine, 1922 See my post on the game page.
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Ignored correction:
Previous: Bogoljubov vs Rubinstein, 1925 See my post there, Helms' column offers additional moves. -----
Duplicates:
Previous: Rubinstein vs Tylor, 1929 D&M: Rubinstein vs Tylor, 1929 The D&M version makes more sense to me since the annotator (J. H. Blake on p. 277 of the 1929 'BCM') comments on 8...Rb8. Instead 8...Re8 makes no sense and the rook moves to d8 4 moves later. Rb8 is also consistent with Black's later play on the queenswing (e. g. have a look at the Nb6 after 32.Qc2). -----
Ignored correction:
Previous: Rubinstein vs Colle, 1929 I trust D&M here with 17.Rxc4 instead of 17.Bxc4 since the latter (and cg.com version) allows 17...Bxg2 (see my post there). -----
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Previous: Rubinstein vs Spielmann, 1930 According to D&M, Akiva lost on time after 39...Qxd7 (Analysis by Romanovsky starts with 40.Bxd7 cxb2 etc.) -----
Ignored correction:
Previous: Rubinstein vs Alekhine, 1926 I know that there was quite a discussion going on but D&M got the 35 move version and provide commentary by Alekhine from 'Deutsche Schachzeitung' 1926 (see <Calli>'s post who says that 'Shakhmaty' 1926 gave the 33 move version). If someone has access to the 'Deutsche Schachzeitung' from 1926, maybe we could settle the argument. -----
Ignored correction:
Previous: Pirc vs Rubinstein, 1929 D&M have them agree to a draw after 53.Kh3 and provide the game with annotations from Pirc from 'Sto Izbranih Partij'. I don't see why they should have played on to bare kings so probably the rest was merely analysis to show that Black can't win even though he's a pawn up. -----
Do you at <chessgames.com> have the overview over duplicates or rejected differing versions because I don't and therefore may miss some of them. |
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| May-28-12 | | Karpova: Another consultation game with mixed up names:
White: Isaac Kashdan, Israel Albert Horowitz and Leonard B Meyer Leonard B Kashdan Isaac / Horowitz vs Rubinstein, 1928 |
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| May-28-12 | | Karpova: Wrong player:
White: V Teichmann (amateur chessplayer. Richard the Fifth died in 1925). Teichmann vs Rubinstein, 1931
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Duplicate
Previous: Yates vs Rubinstein, 1926 7...0-0 8...d6
D&M: Yates vs Rubinstein, 1926 7...d6 8...0-0
D&M provide Tartakower's annotations from '500 Master Games of Chess' - what's the game score like in there? |
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| May-29-12 | | twinlark: <CG Librarian>
Are you still there? It seems to be nearly 4 months since your last communication. |
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| May-29-12 | | Benzol: How many correction slips are outstanding at this time? |
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| May-29-12 | | crawfb5: <twinlark: <CG Librarian> Are you still there? It seems to be nearly 4 months since your last communication.> <twinlark>, <CGL> is on site more often than she posts: <CG Librarian
Member since May-07-11 · Last seen May-29-12> |
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May-30-12
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Seems like a good moment for the <CG Librarian> to pop in and let the people know how long the current backlog is. The people who work so hard to make the corrections slips and improve the database would like to know the current backlog. Time to tell them. |
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Jun-02-12
 | | CG Librarian: Hi guys. As mentioned before, I've been processing 500-1000 correction slips a month, not to mention fixing other problems I notice along the way, fixing names on new uploads, etc. The corrections queue is now under 3000, the lowest it's been in a long time, but obviously still a big backlog. I'm trying to address all new corrections as they come (while still working on the backlog) since I know a timely response is important to those of you who are taking the time to submit them. I'm still somewhat giving priority to the "easy" ones like name corrections, wrong player name in a game, missing checkmate, etc., as opposed to move corrections or wrong result, where I really want to be careful or double check the research. That's not to say they're more important, but while there's still such a backlog I think we get more results per time spent. Of course, NO corrections that are apparently "ignored" are deleted. Please don't feel like your volunteer work is unappreciated. It's amazing how much you all have been doing on bios and helping me find corrections. I think recently when you do a player search, it's noticeably better: few backward names, incomplete names, or duplicates. Part of the reason I haven't been around my forum is because I have been embarrassed/frustrated that I haven't fully kept up with new corrections. I also don't feel ready to address questions like "Which order should Chinese names be in?" until the backlog is taken care of. But I am around nearly every day (part time :)) and making progress. This weekend I'll come back and address some of what's been posted here. |
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Jun-02-12
| | jessicafischerqueen: Thanks for checking in <Librarian>, most decent of you to give us an update on how hard you are working to process the hard work members are doing to improve our website. |
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Jun-02-12
 | | Stonehenge: Thanks <Librarian> :) Here are three almost identical games against Glek. Does anyone know which is the right one? Vladimir Utemov |
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Jun-04-12
| | CG Librarian: OK, here are a few things I wanted to mention:
1. I got a copy of Chess Personalia (quite a while ago now) :) 2. The reason CG put a hyphen in Spanish double last names was so the database software didn't get confused about what the last name was (for things like the Player Directory). We have another method in place that should work now without using the hyphens. 3. About consultation games, until recently the game uploader program always got confused on the names and scrambled them. It's finally fixed, but team names need to be fixed by hand. I've done some but there are still many more. 4. I'm not handling new uploads right now, other admins are still doing it. I do try to look at the names from new uploads and new tournaments to check for duplicates, etc. Incidentally, on new uploads the computer tries to associate names it doesn't recognize with player records that it thinks are similar. Sometimes it messes up and does things like give that Rubinstein simul game to the deceased Teichmann. When you see a mistake like that on a new upload, assume it's the computer's fault and not mine, and submit a correction slip :) 5. To answer some of what's been posted, in no particular order: <qqdos> I've changed the game to correspondence and the names to Alexander Ostapenko and Yartsev. I don't think it should say "senior" unless the two Alexanders are actually father and son, right? But the bio can note that they aren't the same person. Looking at the kibitzing, I also gave the game vs Kurkin to the same Alexander Ostapenko. <Karpova> I've fixed the Teichmann and the consultation team names. I also fixed Aage Olsen. Everything else will take closer examination. <Sastre> Durarbayli is fixed. <FSR> Thanks for the game collection. I also have Game Collection: Calli's unresolved database corrections and Game Collection: Games That Need Not Be in the Database to work on :) <twinlark> Thanks for the research! I gave the Geus games to Klaas Geus and William J Geus, and changed the event and site for the Geus-Euwe games. On the last one, Chesstempo claims that Ale in Ale vs Geus, 1983 is Laszlo Ale, but he's in FIDE but not ICCF (http://www.iccf-webchess.com/Rating...) and was born in 1971, making him 10-16 when his games were played. Actually I'm not totally confident that it's Jan Geus either, since ICCF seems to indicate that he started playing in 1998: http://www.iccf-webchess.com/Player... (unless I'm misinterpreting that? and he was born in 1939, so at least he was old enough). Any more thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks everybody, for your help and patience. |
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| Jun-05-12 | | twinlark: Thanks <CGL>. Good work. I'll see what I can find about Jan Geus. |
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| Jun-05-12 | | Alien Math: <Ale vs Geus> Wat is de basis van een goed schaakpartij Masterclass 007 (English What is the basis of a good chess game) http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=... (Microsoft Word Document) 8 Ale - Geus corres NLD corres NLD, 1983
1.e4 e5 2.Pc3 Pf6 3.Lc4 Pc6 4.d3 Lb4 5.Pge2 d5 6.exd5 Pxd5 7.0-0 Le6 8.Lxd5 Lxd5 9.f4 10.Pxf4 Pe7 11.Pfxd5 Pxd5 Wit maakte het in een zet uit. Hoe? | Google translate last notes as: White made it into a move. How? Appears as same game? |
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| Jun-05-12 | | sneaky pete: In magazines of the Dutch Correspondence Chess Association from the 1980's I find several games of M.W.J. Ale (from Ede) and J. Geus (from Weesp), including (in the March 1985 edition) the 12 move game between the two. J. Geus may very well be the Jan Geus from the ICCF site. The data given there mean only that he started playing in ICCF tournaments in 1998. |
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| Jun-05-12 | | Benzol: <CG Libririan> I'm sorry but I feel the need to jump in here. You have posted that you have the collection Game Collection: Games That Need Not Be in the Database to work on. This collection compiled by <Necessary Truth's> contains games he feels shouldn't be in the database. However, at least one of these games is also in a collection of mine. If it were to be removed I feel it would diminish my collection and leave it incomplete.
I hope I'm not alone in this view. |
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| Jun-05-12 | | Karpova: Thanks, <CG Librarian>! <Benzol: I hope I'm not alone in this view.> I agree with you. <Necessary Truths> seems to simply have searched for games with 5 or less moves without differentiating enough. Some might be incomplete game scores but usually, there was probably a reason behind uploading them. What one user feels about it, should not be the most important factor deciding what to delete. |
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Jul-02-12
 | | Sastre: Andres Carlos Obregon needs to be merged with Carlos Andres Obregon. The correct name is Andres Carlos Obregon according to http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?.... |
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| Jul-13-12 | | Calli: Sent in a "Year" correction for the 16th game of the Steinitz-Lasker match. That part of my note is good - the game does need correction. However, I also made a comment about the 17th match game. Ignore it! The year of 17th game is correct. Sorry for the confusion. |
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| Jul-23-12 | | Karpova: The games from the Vienna B tournament 1921 from this page Alfred Wolf belong to a separate chessplayer from Austria called Alfred Emil Wolf (born around 1900, died 1923) - no player page for him yet. |
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| Jul-24-12 | | Benzol: <CG Librarian> Did you receive the correction slip about this game
Unzicker vs Ivkov, 1965 ? If there is ever going to be a tournament page on the Second Piatigorsky Cup Tt then this game will need to be looked at at some stage. |
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| Aug-09-12 | | twinlark: Hi <CGL>
Someone kibitzed on Alexander Areshchenko page that his photo there makes him look morose. Here's a better pic of him from Google Images that gives him a friendlier aspect: http://www.google.com.au/imgres?num... |
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Sep-08-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <CG Librarian>: The gang over at the <Biographer Bistro> has been discussing tournaments such as the Hastings series which are played over December/January. Most of these are going involve a large number of "Year" corrections; you may have seen those from the 1938/39 tournament already. In cases like this, would it be easier for you if we provided a list of games to be changed rather individual correction slips? Since the games would already be together in a collection, accessing them would not be difficult. |
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| Nov-03-12 | | Karpova: Regarding Rubinstein vs Alekhine, 1922 (see my first post from May-28, 2012) I found <Calli>'s game collection Game Collection: Meine Besten Gefälschten Partien very interesting when weighing up credibility of the tournament book against that of Alekhine. |
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| Nov-03-12 | | Karpova: Karl Pitschel is a special case. He did not participate in the 82nd German Chess Championship in 2011 nor did a namesake of his. The participant in question was FM Claus Pitschka - see http://chess-results.com/tnr51139.a... - he is already featured in the database as Klaus Pitschka and C Pitschka though his forename is indeed written Claus with C, not with K - see http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?.... |
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Nov-03-12
| | Stonehenge: Pitschka is a very unfortunate name in some languages :) |
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