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Jul-18-08
 | | Annie K.: Hey, look who's back! =) |
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Jul-19-08
 | | Stonehenge: <Bookie> First round
Evgeny Alekseev - Etienne Bacrot
Magnus Carlsen - Yannick Pelletier
Leinier Dominguez - Alexander Onischuk
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| Jul-20-08 | | technical draw: Hi, <Annie K> Just taking a short break from the nut house! |
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Jul-20-08
| | Annie K.: By popular request? ;) |
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| Jul-20-08 | | redribbon3700: I am pretty sure I bet on a draw in the first round in the Onischuk but was not given my winnings. Chessbookie, I am not sure if I am alone? |
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| Jul-21-08 | | technical draw: <Annie K> You got it backwards. The VA hospital is the nuthouse. I take a break from them by coming to chessgames.com......TD |
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Jul-21-08
| | Annie K.: ...and I'm up about 600 today. Just loose change, but at least that silly losing trend ended... about time! ;) <TD> nope, didn't get it backwards, that's what I meant! :p Glad to see you, anyhoo. :)
Where is that hospital btw?
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| Jul-21-08 | | redribbon3700: Chessbookie Just let me know what you decision is regarding the Onischuk game? |
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| Jul-22-08 | | technical draw: <Annie K> I guess you're right. There are a lot of strange people that post here! The location of my hospital is part of my anonymity.....TD |
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| Jul-22-08 | | technical draw: Sire has been a member here since '04 and he has not kibitzed much. Now he's on top of the leader board. Way to go Sire!
Sorry Mal but second place is OK too..TD |
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Jul-22-08
 | | Chessgames Bookie: <redribbon3700> Our records show that you didn't make any bets for the Onischuk game but you did make a draw-bet on Biel Rd 1: Carlsen-Pelletier which you lost. Perhaps you mistakenly placed your bet on the wrong game." |
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| Jul-22-08 | | wolfmaster: <Chessgames Bookie> I just wanted to suggest a possible betting event that would probably be labeled as "exotic in the extreme." The betting would be on how many pawns a player would have at the end of the game. Separate contests would be created for each player in the game. For example, if Kramnik were White against Topalov, and he won and had three pawns and a rook left and Topalov had one pawn and a rook left,anyone who bet on Kramnik having three pawns at the end would win x number of chessbucks. So, it would look like this (say this was a round in their world championship match): WCC Rd. 9: Kramnik vs Topalov Kramnik Pawns Left
Then, the choices would be:
None,
1-2,
3-4,
5-6,
7-8
Just thought of something like that.
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| Jul-22-08 | | redribbon3700: Thank you Chessbookie that is exactly what I did. |
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| Jul-23-08 | | wolfmaster: Another possibility would be to create a long term contest based around the 3 supertournaments (Linares, Dortmund, and Corus) and create a Perfecta, i.e. picking the winner of each tournament. So, if someone thought that Anand would win Linares, Kramnik would win Dortmund, and Anand would win Corus, he would wager Chessbucks on the ticket Anand-Kramnik-Anand (the order would be Linares winner-Dortmund winner-Corus winner). |
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Jul-24-08
| | Chessgames Bookie: <wolfmaster> We have put up a bet along the lines you suggested. Biel Rd 6: Bacrot vs Alekseev: Pieces Left |
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| Jul-24-08 | | technical draw: The loan shark won't give me anymore money, not like in the good old days when I could get thousands. Can you talk to him for me and let me have just C$1,000? |
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Jul-24-08
| | Annie K.: I don't like the "number of pawns/pieces left" idea. The bets here usually require a combination of luck and skill to do well - familiarity with the players and their statistics, histories and interactions, etc. - or require doing some research to look these things up. That means there is usually an educational component to playing this game. But something like that is just dumb luck, and cheapens the value of doing well at the game. The only practical consideration that might apply to this bet is probably "Will these two settle for a quick draw, or battle it out?", and we already have the Under/Over bets to cover that question. |
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| Jul-24-08 | | acirce: Personally I do like the exotic bets of this kind, weird as they are. I think they're fun and would like to see more of them, although of course they should remain a minority. I don't have any good suggestions right now myself though. |
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| Jul-24-08 | | wolfmaster: <Annie K.> No one said you had to bet on it. |
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Jul-24-08
| | Annie K.: <acirce> There are exotics that are also more luck than anything else, yet not necessarily this worthless. I recall that starting position bet in the Fischerandom game, for example - it made people do some work to figure out the statistical probabilities of the possible positions. A bet like that, where doing some actual thinking and calculating will improve your chances, counts as a worthwhile one IMO - though still preferably kept to a minority as you said. I could think of loads of exotics if you want... ;) say, "What color square will Carlsen's King be on at the end of the game?" A bet like that is still obviously mostly a matter of luck, yet there are lots of factors the consideration of which will improve your chances. For example, in a game where Carlsen is White, it would be helpful to be able to figure out that "Black" should be a heavy favorite, since that's the square color the White King will be on after castling Kingside, and that's where it is most likely to stay until the endgame - unless he should castle Queenside and move on to b1 afterwards, which would not be an uncommon move in itself, but Queenside castling doesn't usually result from 1.d4 openings, which is what Carlsen plays most these days.... so there are quite a few actually chess and player-related considerations to think through in an exotic bet like that - and still it's all up in the air, should the game reach the endgame stage when the Kings get moving and could end up anywhere. Something like that might be fun. I still don't recommend doing it, at least not often. ;p |
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Jul-25-08
| | Stonehenge: <Annie> I think you still have to think a bit before betting on <pieces left>. For example, if you think both players will be satisfied with a short draw, then placing a bet in the 21-32 range makes sense. If you know both players have to win, then placing a bet in the 2-12 range makes sense. Anyway, I hope one day we can bet on this Chess-Boxing stuff you sometimes see. How many <teeth left> would be interesting :) |
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Jul-25-08
| | Annie K.: ... Comeback Mal strikes again! ;)
Note re. my previous post, against Bacrot Carlsen <did> play 0-0-0 after opening 1.d4, so even that far nothing is really certain, nevertheless his K <still> ended up on a dark square by the end of the game anyway. :p <Stonehenge> already covered that, see my before-last post. Nevermind, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V: <The only practical consideration that might apply to this bet is probably "Will these two settle for a quick draw, or battle it out?", and we already have the Under/Over bets to cover that question.> PS - <How many <teeth left> would be interesting :)> You're a dentist? ;p |
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| Jul-25-08 | | technical draw: It's nice to see some good buddies on the leader board. No it's not. I want to be there myself! I'm just a little jealous that's all.. Where's the nearest bridge? |
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| Jul-26-08 | | malthrope: <technical draw: It's nice to see some good buddies on the leader board. No it's not. I want to be there myself! I'm just a little jealous that's all.. Where's the nearest bridge?> and...
<Annie K.: ... Comeback Mal strikes again! ;)> Thank You <TD> and <Annie> :^) Well, it was just a lucky guess based on the probabilities (the bet before last) to take me over the top... ;) As for all the new esoteric bets - I'll keep my <eye> on them! ~lol~ 'Good Luck' betting everyone! :)) My Best, - Mal PS: As if the <tension> wasn't enough at the International Chess Festival in Biel - the 'Grand Prix' in Sochi is coming right up. Should be fabulous! ;) |
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Jul-26-08
| | Stonehenge: Biel Rd 6: Bacrot vs Alekseev: Pieces Left
I counted 18 pieces, not 5-8. |
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