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| Oct-03-15 | | sydbarrett: Haha, I'm being honest when I say that Karjakin losing two games in a row doesn't hurt me. It disappointed me when I first saw it, but I was top 3 and in close range up to the last day. I'm happy about this first season. ;-)
With that said, GO KARJAKIN! see you in 6 hours :D |
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| Oct-03-15 | | sydbarrett: I didn't wake up in time to see Karjakin lose game 2 live by the way. :D If I can wake up in time, I'll gladly relish watching Karjakin as he wins game 3. I bet a buttload EVEN MORE on Karjakin tonight. I don't know if being in top 10 or not matters, and I don't really care. NUMBER ONE, bAbY! :D Top o' the world, Ma! TOP OF THE WORLD!!! |
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| Oct-03-15 | | sydbarrett: lol @ Freddy!
I just read your other comment.
That lucky foresighted soul who bet $2 on "white-black-draw" is none other than ME! LMAO who else do you think would be that genius?? I've outwitted you in a hundred different ways all summer. But that $700 gain is chump change. I'm no small-minded fool like you, Freddy boy. I got $1000s on Karjakin, baby, and I love it that way! |
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Oct-03-15
 | | FSR: <Syd> I guarantee you that I would have bet on White-Black-Draw (and considerably more than C$2) if only CG.com had been operational at the time I was trying to bet. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: I'm all in, Mark. I trust you're happy. |
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| Oct-03-15 | | MarkFinan: <pitapino: So basically you can spend a month in the cellar and still get 5000 from the shark while someone in the top 20 can only get 1500?> I saved that money up! I borrowed on days I didn't even bet (or couldn't!) losing $90 a day, in preparation for "Operation comeback" 😂 and just to be fair I'm going to put it all on the most unlikely results so I don't place top 10. I don't want to take your place Pitapino but then I read this and realised you're cheating really... <pitapino: <Sore loser, lol.>
Maybe I am. But I'm also a leg winner>
Which leg? The leg under your other handle because this one wasn't even created until August. So Pitaboy, ALL your cb's should be split evenly between the rest of us, you've basically admitted that you're complaining because you're bad at cheating!? |
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| Oct-03-15 | | MarkFinan: <FSR: I'm all in, Mark. I trust you're happy> No, I want to see you in the championship leg. I'm all in because I don't really want to place top 10 as I've already qualified. But good luck today. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: Thanks, Mark. I'm shocked to see you saying something kind to me for once. Or do you just mean that you want me in the Championship Leg because you intend to humiliate me there? |
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| Oct-03-15 | | MarkFinan: I don't really want to embarrass you Fred, I only play. I want to <beat> you in the next leg, a bit of banter and it makes it more interesting, that's all. I think this has been a good leg, I'm just glad I didn't have to qualify. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: I bet it all, plus another 2,540 from the Loanshark. (I tried to bet 400 more at the last minute, but was too late.) A lot of bets struck me as being very attractive. We'll see whether my judgment is vindicated. I just hope to hell that Karjakin doesn't blunder again and lose; if he does I'll lose a fortune and probably won't qualify. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: 1...c5! All right! I had a little bit on that one. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: I think the worst scenario for me will be if Svidler underpromotes a pawn, then plays 48.Ke4 discovered check (becoming "King of the Hill" and administering his third check), whereupon Karjakin resigns. I will thereby become the first player ever to plummet from fourth place to last in the standings on the final day of the leg. |
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| Oct-03-15 | | MarkFinan: <FSR: 1...c5! All right!> I would normally have bet on ..c5 but I just put 1000 on ..e5 instead. After yesterday I realised that I really could qualify so apart from that bet they're all longshots really. I'd have liked to win a leg but I had no chance after losing 5k in one day.. It's the next leg that's the important one, or is it the "fall leg" now Pengerz? It's only 12 week to Xmas so I don't know. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: <MarkFinan> Say what? The total bet on 1...e5 is only 200. World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Black's First Move Or are you talking about an earlier bet? |
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| Oct-03-15 | | MarkFinan: I just checked and you're right. I could have sworn I put 1k on that bet but I just won something instead, lol. It must have been the short draw that I laid on a straight 1000. But even if that were to pay I put large amounts on Karjakin and he isn't going to win. Do you realise I've bet on Karjakin from day one, every game ,and I still didn't win anything until yesterday!? If I thought I could have disrupted Switch and Darth Chebly at the top I would have put on wagers I thought were going to win, but there's no point taking someone's seat at the table when you already have your own. Good luck Fred and I honestly hope you qualify, you did exactly what I did in my qualifying leg last time around by going all in, I doubt someone in 10th would have ended up with 6k though. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: Thanks, Mark. I didn't just go all in on principle. I did it because a lot of the bets looked very attractive to me, e.g. betting on Karjakin in the "Draw No Bet" seems like a no-brainer because if Karjakin ever gets in trouble he'll just offer a draw, which Svidler will take because he wins the tournament with it. We saw that in his second game against Topalov, where Svidler took a draw even though he had calculated that he was winning. But no doubt it would have been safer to bet less and just try to qualify. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: A very profitable day!
PROJECTED PAYOUT: 4,480 (5:4)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Draw No Bet Karjakin 2000c$ PROJECTED PAYOUT: 1,730 (3:4)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Three Check
NONE 1000c$
PROJECTED PAYOUT: 1,480 (1:2)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin King of the Hill NONE 1000c$ PROJECTED PAYOUT: 406 (6:1)
World Cup R7,G3: End of the World
NO 60c$
PROJECTED PAYOUT: 326 (11:2)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Moves
35 or fewer
50c$
PROJECTED PAYOUT: 264 (1:3)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Short Draw
NO
200c$
PROJECTED PAYOUT: 114 (7:4)
World Cup R7,G3: Svidler - Karjakin Black's First Move
1...c5 40c$ |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: I do feel for Svidler, though. The poor guy was dead winning several different ways. Of course it's a lot easier with the engine telling you what to do. |
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Oct-03-15
 | | Penguincw: Wow, I am shocked. I wake up, check the Live Games page, and Karjakin has won, so you know what that means: the Summer 2015 leg continues! It ain't over 'til it's over. Wow, no words. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: Note that the Pick Three had no winner. "Select All That Apply" might not have a winner either, if tomorrow's game is decisive. |
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Oct-03-15
| | Penguincw: Yeah, I'm just surprised Karjakin won.
And then I see this dinosaur: World Cup R7: Pick Three. The winning line is WBB. Just one <tiny> problem: there are no chessbucks on the winning line. The simplest option is for the Bookie to keep all the money, but that wouldn't really be fair. I believe it's the case that if no chessbucks are placed on the winning P3, 2 out of 3 lines pay. So, the winning lines here would be: WBD, WDB
Yeah, just 2 lines, since there were <also> no money placed on WWB, WBW, BBB, DBB and of course, WBB. I'm going to leave it for a bit and see if someone comes by and checks my work. :) I'm going to need some help in making this historic decision. |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: I would have thought that if no one picks the winning line, everyone loses and the house pockets all the money. Whoever heard of winning at the racetrack by <almost> picking the winning trifecta? |
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Oct-03-15
| | FSR: And if you want to talk about fairness, I guarantee you that if CG.com had been up I would have gone and put money down on all those orphan lines. So should I get the prize? That would be ridiculous, but no more so than awarding it to the people who <almost> got it right. You don't bet on the one winning line, you don't win. That is the only sensible result in my book. |
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Oct-03-15
| | Penguincw: < FSR: I would have thought that if no one picks the winning line, everyone loses and the house pockets all the money. Whoever heard of winning at the racetrack by <almost> picking the winning trifecta? > That would most certainly be the simplest option, but I think it was mentioned (sometime during the 375+ page history of this forum), that 2 out of 3 would pay. It nearly happened earlier this leg: CCC/UJC: Canada - U.S. Relations (luckily I dodged a bullet, but it has come back to hit me). I do understand why you want the bookie to keep all the money. ;) |
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| Oct-03-15 | | gauer: Who'd've thougtht that back on Chessgames Bookie chessforum that not many were talking about these 5:1 or 35:1 favourites to go almost all the way to a 23,009 juiced World Cup: WINNER ticket, nearly 1 month later?! With things like payday coming around, even if not just once or twice per month, sure does help a player recover when they've made a typo in a ticket purchase or two early on. But one real lesson (#372) to follow is: to watch out how much you're paying into things like the chessbookie's interest juice, ticket interest skimming off of the sucker/fish-tank tickets (tickets with perhaps avoidable odds, or a low total juice pool), or seeing how soon a ticket can be cashed, relative to one's worth and/or funds. User: SwitchingQuylthulg as bookiewas great in past for sometimes placing 2-3 rounds of bets and pay-outs per <day> in previous rounds. But User: Penguincw has also done awesome this time by predicting approximately how many tickets he'd offer in a given day (thanks! - it's nice to have a bit of a calendar schedule to go by - knowing that a leg would finish on a World Cup or Olympiad series of bids). Good job on your first stint as a loan-shark, etc. Are you guys able to control the floor and ceiling bets to something other than around 2-5 (for most starting floors) through 200-300 (for most ceiling) floor-ceiling wagers? It might be a way to slow a guy down placing a huge wager on a "no-draw"/refund ticket when he has a huge load on a 2nd 3-way similar players ticket, but without the "no-draw"-refunds. Perhaps one needs to count <how much> a player is losing, relative to the: interest/day and ticket-taking-juice they place on all bets. Thinking of the lesson a different way: compute your (payday funds)+(starting funds)+(winnings) is a much better place to watch as you try to finish, rather than hoping to merely clear 0 or 2000 or 1000 total funds, and watch that, relative to your outstanding unpaid tickets, comparing it to your relative worth. 3000 this leg tends to put some of the top runners in the top-10 list (maybe call that one #373 for another freebie). Thanks, bookies, for a bunch of fun in the recently improved legs with this payday management system! |
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