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Aug-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: <there are no insects so far in Daegu>
I think they only come out on odd-numbered days. |
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| Aug-26-07 | | WBP: <Dom> I see you're up. (False Austrailian accent) G'day, mate! Ive just gotten home and am off to sleep in a moment, but wanted to say 'ello. <WBP: Shagspere or Wharfinger?> Not sure what this will cost me (not quite sure what we're dealing with here), but <Wharfinger>. (Just watched <Goldfinger> the other night for the umpteenth-million time. Interesting thing: the Bond films--and all the clones thereafter--usuually sell themselves with all the usual goodies: fast cars, beautiful women, and exotic locations. <Goldfinger> has the first two, but locations? Yeah, whenever I watch that movie, I want to book the next plane to Fort Knox.) Hi <Mack> Thanks for the Carlyle stuff. I totally agree. And Carlyle's influence on other writers--notably Melville--is not really appreciated enough. (BTW: I am a gun collecter and occasionally do shoot dry rubbish, though that's all!) |
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| Aug-26-07 | | WBP: <Dom> Your post in <JoeWms> place is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time! Flinging <Subliterate solids> at one another! WIST! |
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Aug-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Bill> Thanks -- no doubt you've also seen subliterate solids in the form of essays, term papers, etc. Even runnier, perhaps. And not at all Pythagorean, as solids go. |
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Aug-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Bill & Ben>, above, should be "Flowerpot Men" and NOT "Flowerpet Men". Unless, about 50 years ago, they filmed a special edition for the young Prince Charles, with <Flowerpet Men>, designed to teach him the language of the plants. Which, it is said, he still speaks fluently, especially Tomatoese. "Hello, Little Weed, Hello ..." |
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Aug-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Shagspere or Wharfinger? > is a reference to two brilliant but little-known dramatists in 16th-17th century England. William Shagspere, an actor from Stratford, wrote some messy comedies and a couple of history plays, before creating the complex character Falstaff in Henry IV. He then began work on a tragedy ('Othello: Holy War in Venice'), but before completing it he was served with a fatwa and stabbed to death in Deptford. Some critics say that, if he'd lived, Shagspere might have been almost as good as Marlowe. Wharfinger is a Jacobean dramatist best known for The Revenger's Tragedy, about the Trystero. He also died mysteriously young. Thomas Pynchon (The Crying of Lot 49) and Emory Bortz have reconstructed certain ambiguously coded passages. |
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| Aug-26-07 | | WBP: <Dom> Thanks for the Shagspere/Wharfinger clarification (I'd forgotten the variant spellings of Shakespere--even thought the Shagspere was a Monty Python Off-Broadway revue). Still chuckling over the <subliterate solids>! |
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| Aug-26-07 | | JoeWms: Dom, I recently posted a "father knows best" subtlety to Jessica about using attention-getters in email. "Communist indoctrination" for instance. I referred to the (plural) Koreas, to suggest that the folks up north might have a technology to read mail of a Canadian alien who just landed on the lower peninsula. Their gear would be more sophisticated than CG's dirty-word finder. Jess's use of "communist" four times in a post was typical fun stuff for the lady. But it was gratuitous, n'est pas? I should write on the blackboard fifty times: "Subtlety does not work." Paranoijoe
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| Aug-26-07 | | chessmoron: Dear Paranoijoe,
She's settling in South Korea not North. So the censorship is not strict but I don't know if South Korea is doing the same as in the United States to spy on e-mails for potential "terrorist threats". |
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Aug-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: <paranoijoe & chessmoron> N Korea couldn't possibly afford the latest tracker tech, not that they'd need it to crack CG -- but it's not a question of being interested in Canadians, it's a matter of being way out of the loop. The most sophisticated keyword/alert systems (that I know of) are run by the USA/CIA (once named Echelon, but something else now) and the one in GCHQ Cheltenham in the UK. Either of these can easily pull single words from 'private' emails or cellphone/landline conversations. Stuff here is in a lower security category and barely worth bothering about. Also, they don't bother running searches on the word 'communist' anymore -- it's only of academic interest. What they like to hear is next month's code words, and I'm not about to give those away... (but take care if talking about polar bears and arctic circles... risky topic right now... A paranometer in room 47 knows I am awake. |
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| Aug-27-07 | | JoeWms: Good info, as usual.
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| Aug-27-07 | | JoeWms: <Jessica> Forget the spy story I set up to fit your "communist indoctrination" comments. <Cool the wisecracks -- until you know the territory.> A tough request, that's for sure, and you know this already. But just indulge an old fart who cares. I feel better now.
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Joe> Oh dear ... <oldfart> just happens to be next month's codeword. In the old days, you could have expected a knock on the door and a couple of polite Mormons with questions... but these days they haven't got the manpower and just use stinger missiles. Since you're legally blind, however, they may simply use a SWAT team. (It's true, btw, that it sometimes comes as a shock to North Americans to find themselves in a part of the world containing (a) communists, and (b) people who shoot communists; and the 'friendly' crossfire is no respecter of passports. But I reckon our Jessica is up to the challenge...) If offered DMZ in a nightclub, Just Say No.
This is the *only* bit of geopolitics which Nancy Reagan understood. |
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: As a West Yurpean, I'm just as baffled by the way somebody like Bill [above] -- a nice civilized academic and a leading practitioner of that echt 21st century artform, suckpoppet theater -- can casually say "I'm a gun collector". I don't think I ever SAW a gun until I was about 18, and even then it was being pointed at me by a VOPO in East Germany. Alas, my German wasn't good enough to say "Excuse me, Bitte, Meinherr, I collect guns, could I please take yours to paste in my gun album? Is there a charge?" There's a charge all right. |
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| Aug-27-07 | | mack: I've never seen a gun, and for most of the time I live in the 'hood' that is Mile End. I'm not terribly sure that guns even exist; they're probably just something Irish mothers made up to scare their kids, like 'The Man'. |
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Irish mothers> You could be right, although I'm not sure if the Hibernomatriarchal imagination runs along such lines. Back in the era when a German border guard pointed his GUN at me, I'd just come from Ireland ... a place where, to go by the world's media, there was some kind of 'war' on. Not that you'd notice. As a woman on the Dover-Ostende ferry said to me: "Northern Ireland - is that the top bit or the bottom bit?" |
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: <mack> Come to think of it, an Irish mother made <me> up to scare the kids, and it worked. Woo. |
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| Aug-27-07 | | mack: I base my entire knowledge of Irish parenting on a small passage in the Father Ted scriptbook, in which Our Graham writes: <Whenever children are being loud or generally misbehaving in a restaurant or any other public place, you'll hear the Irish parents scaring their children by pointing to the waiter/park keeper/whoever and saying, 'Here comes The Man! You've made The Man angry!'> Tell me -- is 'The Man' still common currency over there? When your super-bright niece wants to play chess with you, for example, do you tell her that The Man will beat her up if she wins? |
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: <mack> Can't say I've ever even heard that one... an ancient Linehan familial bogeyperson? Or a traditional saying in whatever part of the country that Mr Arthur M. triumphantly emerged from? Which is scary enough for any sprog. As for <The Man>, I prefer Pynchon (of course): <"We are all powerless in the massive presence of Money ... The Man has a branch office in each of our souls, and his mission in this world is Bad @#$%."> That's a misquote-from-memory: I just tried to look up the original, and couldn't find it. When I can't locate a line in Gravity's Rainbow, it's a sure sign that Larry Alzheimer is on my case. On the plus side, I peeked into a thesis on Pynchon by that McCarthy person ('The Critical Zone', 1982) and found a theory about two types of structure, the moire and the chessboard. "We move through a cosmic design of darkness and light, and in all humility I am one of the very few who can comprehend it in toto. Consider honestly therefore, young man, which side you would rather be on." - Gerhard von Goll, aka Der Springer, in Gravity's Rainbow "Chess is a highly structured exercise which may also serve as a mode of perception and a metaphor for life." "A moire, on its own, is undifferentiated, integrated, and chaotic: it is the observer who plucks it to pieces to find the structures it conceals. ... Our perceptual paranoia, engulfed in a rage to order, transforms caries into cabals, sees chessboards where there is only moire." - G. McCarthy, The Critical Zone
[I'll see what else if anything this source can throw up for your anthology... good thing I haven't written *much* about chess or you could be bombarded with inane verbosities...] *Different* inane verbosities, I mean. |
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Aug-27-07
 | | Domdaniel: <nieces> 50% of my super-bright nieces are actually Danish and thus hardwired never to misbehave. If she ever tried -- unthinkable, of course -- everyone in Copenhagen would stop what they were doing and *frown* wordlessly at her. I saw a child acting up on Stroget once. Must have been Swedish. Not a pretty sight. The *other* 50% of niecedom more than makes up for all this unnatural goodness. Although the Danish one is currently in my good books (she said that I make her think) while the Irish one has reached the poke-him-with-a-sharp-stick and-giggle-inanely phase. Even while playing chess, apparently. |
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| Aug-28-07 | | WBP: <Dom> <As a West Yurpean, I'm just as baffled by the way somebody like Bill [above] -- a nice civilized academic and a leading practitioner of that echt 21st century artform, suckpoppet theater -- can casually say "I'm a gun collector"> Yeah, the gun thing is pretty much antithetical to everything else I more or less believe in. But I do have my contraries! I have never killed (or tried to kill) anything with them; just target shoot. I do I understand the aversion many people feel toward them. And I can especially understand how one from western Europe might be baffled by someone collecting them (you guys are far more civilized and evolved than we! What's with these Americans and their guns?). When I moved here (New Mexico) from Chicago when I was 13 (1969), I moved right into a rural gun culture. All my high school friends had guns (it is a rather rural and remote area of the state) and not much was really made of it. I soon acquired a small caliber rifle. Most of my adult life I didn't have any (illegal in New York), but on moving back here, I began collecting. |
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| Aug-28-07 | | WBP: <Dom> BTW, my <(you guys are far more civilized and evolved than we!> was not intended to be sarcastic. |
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Aug-28-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Bill> Europe is actually awash with guns. It's just that the people who have them tend to be in the army, or selling crack cocaine, or both. The American system seems more democratic. Although Canada's probably best, as usual. Just think, they even *mount* their policepersons... |
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| Aug-28-07 | | WBP: <Dom> Quick note that covers both here and your note from <Eyal's>: Great stuff, great stuff (what in hell did I mean by "posers that be"?!? You're turn on that, as usual, was very good and funny).
Yeah, Canada's prety damn good (having just been there). I recall Edmund Wilson saying somewhere (his book O Canada, I'm guessing?) that if the American Founding Fathers came alive they'd recognize Canada as the country they created. Giving up on the guns; plan to start collectin Howitzers. |
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| Aug-29-07 | | mack: Chessbase has gone and got me all excited by their brief little bit on the Mexico City world championships. I know it's not how a WCC should be done, and with any luck this will be the last time, but nevertheless I hadn't thought about the fact that *the world chess championship is two weeks away*. And there's a bloody brilliant venue, too -- no crappy little sheds in Dictatorial Tinpotsia, rather a great big tower in Mexico. I'm reminded of Ray's rather romantic description of Kasparov and Anand playing their match in 'castles in the sky'. Call me a sucker, but I can't wait! |
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