That is insane! You do not know what Free Will is! There would be no Eternal Paradise or Heaven if Hitler was allowed! The Free Will that God gave us all is to either accept Jesus Christ as our God & Saviour or reject him. There is no point to believing in God if you can have tortured and killed at least 6 million Jews and get Eternal Paradise?! Did you ever read the part in The Bible of weeping and gnashing of teeth in the fire? Here is the passage, [But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out (Luke 13:27-28).]

Actually, it's the exact opposite. You can't comprehend Hitler ever making it to Heaven because you think of Jesus in human terms. How could any human pardon Hitler? It's not logical. Suppose Hitler was reborn as your daughter? Would you want your own daughter to burn in hell forever? Would you even recognize Hitler? Suppose Hitler was your mother? Hitler would no longer be Hitler would she? What we see is less than 1% of the big picture. Jesus knows the whole story.

<<<<<Travis Bickle>>>> That is insane! You do not know what Free Will is! There would be no Eternal Paradise or Heaven if Hitler was allowed!>

Calm down mate. Your ok :) You may recall I mentioned something about reincarnation and working through our misdeeds. I don't believe that Hitler went to Heaven when he died. You may also recall me mentioning that for the first 4 or 5 centuries AD universal salvation and reincarnation were major parts of Christian belief.

Why's that? The evidence is easy to find. Try researching some of the names that I posted. Here are a few links to get you started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=ez...

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Prev...

http://www.tentmaker.org/tracts/Uni...

http://www.tentmaker.org/tracts/Uni...

http://www.tentmaker.org/ScholarsCo...

http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/univ...

http://www.near-death.com/experienc...

http://www.romancatholicism.org/ori...

<<<<<OhioChessFan>>>> Regardless, what matters is not what people believe, but what God says.>

That's the exact opposite of what you said before.

<<<<<TCE>>>> Would you believe it if God did appear to you?

<OhioChessFan> No.>

<<<<<TCE>>>> I understand now why the Bible is so important to you.>

All you have to go on is what other people believe because all you believe is what other people have written. In the end it's not what is written in any book or other people's experiences that matter. There is only one way to find God.

All I can say at this time is that I couldn't find any support in Scripture for reincarnation or universal salvation--not if my life depended on it, not if I could earn a million dollars for doing it.

Heh heh it was actually me who decided that the H should stand for heretic :D

<<<<<playground player>>>> Come to think of it, <The Chess Heretic> is a terrific handle--somebody ought to use it. Maybe somebody who always plays the Damiano Defense, the Grob, or some other funky opening.>

Trouble is it doesn't really suit me. My style of play has become very classical and orthodox ... at least as far as the opening is concerned. I even consider much of the mainstream hyper-modern stuff to be suspect. The one notable exception being my fondness of The Noteboom :)

<<<<<playground player>>>> I believe I have a duty to defend orthodox doctrine--not that I would expect to persuade you, but for the sake of whoever else might be reading.>

There was a time when you wouldn't have had to persuade me. I was raised a Lutheran. I used to judge the crap out of people. It caused me great distress that the world was not the way I thought it should be. One of my favorite attack verses was

<<Isaiah 5:20> Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!>

I used to use it on gays, feminists, Pro-lifers, liberals, anybody who I thought deserved it (it worked well on chess heretics to). I got to the point where I realized that all I was doing was bringing woe unto myself. I realized just how true passages like

<<<<<Luke 6:37>>>> Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven>

<<<<<Matthew 7:1-2>>>> Do not judge, or you too will be judged. <2> For in the same way as you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.>

are. I essentially chose hell for myself rather than Heaven. What we do unto others we do unto ourselves because in spirit there is no difference. Now, this has become one of my favorite anti-attack verses.

<<<<<Romans 11:33-34>>>> O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! <34> For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counselor?>

Judgment is God's job. It was never intended for us. We can't possibly know what a fair judgment is because we see only the tip of the iceberg. Jesus was able to forgive those who were crucifying him and so many Christians cannot forgive those who have done nothing to them.

I can go into local churches and hear the preacher on the one hand tell me not to judge, and on the other hand tell me that those who do not subscribe to his brand of Christianity will burn forever in hell. Such hypocrisy is ultimately what led me to investigate Jesus' message on my own.

The scripture is actually full of such examples, but as always interpretation is key. Have a look at <1 Corinthians 15> with an open mind. There are several key passages.

<<<<<18>>>> Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.>

Everybody is Christ, but most have fallen asleep and forgotten it.

<<<<<19>>>> If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.>

Reincarnation

<<<<<20>>>> But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.>

The "firstfruits" refers to what we were before we fell asleep. We were Christ.

<<<<<21-23>>>> For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. <22> For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. <23> But each one in his own turn:>

The second coming or the day that we remember that we are Christ is different for everybody. The word "all" is key there.

<<<<<25-26>>>> For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. <26> The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.>

No one will be dead at the end because there will be no death. There will be no hell, no suffering, no sleep, no death. All will be awake in Christ.

<<<<<30-31>>>> And why do we stand in jeopardy every hour? I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.>

Every moment or "hour" of the day we choose between life or death. Every time we choose and evil thought we die because we have chosen death or hell. We have separated our self from God. Every time we choose a thought that is of Christ we are alive in Christ. We have chosen Heaven. Our resurrection is constant. The idea is to make it permanent.

<<<<<45>>>> And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.>

All men are Adam are they not? For what it's worth I also believe that this all fully applies to women as well.

<<<<<50-55>>>> Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. <51> Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— <52> in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. <53> For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. <54> So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
<55> “ O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?>

Pretty self explanatory I would think. If hades is defeated then nobody will be lost in it. There will be no hades. If nobody is dead then all are alive.

<<<<<56>>>> The sting of death is sin,>

<<<<<Galatians 3:28>>>> There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.>

There is no difference between men and women in spirit.