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 | | OhioChessFan: <"Best" relative to the rest of the species > Why? (That's the cue for a self serving answer)
<Anyway, most if not all of the things you mention are trade-offs. Being fertile the entire lifespan costs much more energy, besides which conceiving babies at either a young or old age is much more risky to the health. Same thing for being multiply pregnant at the same time or producing twins/triplets/etc. Sexual reproduction has the obvious advantage of producing much more diversity than asexual reproduction, besides which only in extreme cases there would not be a fertile male around.> Yes, of course, and if I held your position, I'd say much the same thing. But deep down I'd know such is mostly ex post facto rationalization of that which I could not have predicted. |
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| Aug-13-10 | | The Chess Express: <<<<<Travis Bickle>>>> I think your smoking too much funny cigarettes.> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl... :D |
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| Aug-13-10 | | The Chess Express: woe ... that flavius josephus is great stuff ... |
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Aug-13-10
 | | OhioChessFan: Josephus is great, though I think <alpha> was referring to his listing as "recent". |
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Aug-13-10
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Aug-14-10
 | | OhioChessFan: Luke 13:1-5 There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And Jesus answered and said to them, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. "Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." This is some pretty straight forward language from Jesus. I am at a loss how it can possibly be reconciled with reincarnation or universalism. In context, what does "you will...perish" mean? They knew they were going to physically die. |
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| Aug-14-10 | | cormier: http://www.usccb.org/nab/081410.shtml |
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| Aug-14-10 | | cormier: Children were brought to Jesus
that he might lay his hands on them and pray.
The disciples rebuked them, but Jesus said,
“Let the children come to me, and do not prevent them;
for the Kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”
After he placed his hands on them, he went away. |
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| Aug-14-10 | | The Chess Express: <<<<<OhioChessFan>>>> This is some pretty straight forward language from Jesus. I am at a loss how it can possibly be reconciled with reincarnation or universalism. In context, what does "you will...perish" mean? They knew they were going to physically die.> ---
<<<<<Matthew 8:22>>>>
But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.> Again, pretty straight forward stuff. Death is a spiritual condition nothing more. It matters not whether we have a physical body. <<<<<1 Corinthians 15:51>>>> Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,> Death is a type of spiritual sleep since it is temporary and causes us to forget what our true reality is. <<<<<Romans 13:11>>>> And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.> We can probably all agree that Jesus did not come to save the world from physical death. People's bodies still pass away regardless of what they believe. Jesus came to waken us from spiritual sleep. |
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| Aug-14-10 | | playground player: <The Chess Express> Believe it or not, there are a few scholars who never bought into universal salvation (never mind what you do or what you believe) and reincarnation. Just to name a few:
St. Augustine
St. Athanasius
St. Anselm
St. Thomas Aquinas
Martin Luther
John Calvin
And just a few moderns, like Cornelius van Til, Abraham Kuyper, R.J. Rushdoony, Gresham Machen, R.C. Sproul, Albert Mohler... For the sake of anyone who is new to Christianity, and is not getting much out of you and I butting heads, I urge this course-- Forget the scholars (on both sides of the issue): read the Bible regularly, and intently, and let God's word speak for itself. <whatthefat> As the work of sinful and imperfect men, "science" can never be the source of ultimate truth. Let's not entrust our souls to Darwin, Kinsey, or the Klimate Change Gang at East Anglia University. Science is a tool for learning about nature, nothing more. To treat it as anything more than a tool is to worship an idol. |
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| Aug-14-10 | | cormier: true Science is the Spiritual-Key to serenity calm peace of our soul ..... tks |
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| Aug-15-10 | | The Chess Express: "The torture of a bad conscience is the hell of a living soul." John Calvin |
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| Aug-15-10 | | The Chess Express: “Hell is paved with priests' skulls”
Saint John Chrysostom |
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| Aug-15-10 | | Travis Bickle: <The Chess Express: <<<<<Travis Bickle>>>> I think your smoking too much funny cigarettes.> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...;
HAHAHAHA!!!!! |
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| Aug-15-10 | | cormier: http://www.usccb.org/nab/081510a.sh... |
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| Aug-15-10 | | cormier: http://www.usccb.org/nab/081510b.sh... |
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| Aug-15-10 | | cormier: <it's our acadian national festival ..... tks> |
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| Aug-15-10 | | cormier: http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro... methane time bomb ... |
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| Aug-16-10 | | cormier: http://www.usccb.org/nab/081610.shtml |
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| Aug-16-10 | | whatthefat: <playgroundplayer: <whatthefat> As the work of sinful and imperfect men, "science" can never be the source of ultimate truth.> It doesn't claim to be. I refer you back to my last comment: "You may need to invest some time in first unlearning what you think science is, and then learning what science actually is." <Science is a tool for learning about nature, nothing more. To treat it as anything more than a tool is to worship an idol.> I have never said otherwise. In fact I have said the same thing repeatedly, almost verbatim. Open your ears. |
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| Aug-16-10 | | playground player: <whatthefat> Sorry if I misunderstood you, but your attitude gets in the way of your message. When I said "'It works for me' is no substitute for truth," I could've sworn you suggested I go out and enrol in a science course (you presume, of course, that everyone who doesn't have your open-mouthed reverence for science can't have studied it)... Now see what you've done? Now you've got me showing an attitude! What do you say to a truce? |
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| Aug-16-10 | | whatthefat: <playground player: When I said "'It works for me' is no substitute for truth," I could've sworn you suggested I go out and enrol in a science course (you presume, of course, that everyone who doesn't have your open-mouthed reverence for science can't have studied it)... Now see what you've done? Now you've got me showing an attitude!> You and I seem to be at odds on how one goes about attaining the truth. I play by the rules of logical deduction and the scientific method. I think ideas should be tested in a repeatable and rigorous manner before they are accepted. Within that framework I also accept that nothing can ever be proven. I also accept that there are many truths in this life which are simply unattainable by this or any other method, such as: "Why does the universe exist?", "Why are there 2 types of electric charge and not 3?", "Where was I before I was born?", "Are people and animals other than myself conscious?" That's not a problem for me. It puzzles and fascinates me, but I'm not going to embrace some man-made fairy tale just because I'd like to fill those gaps. It's clearly a very human tendency to try to clear up that confusion, as evidenced by the many mythologies designed to answer just those questions, from the ancients to the beliefs of modern day tribes. By contrast, you are willing to accept the unverifiable claims of a single book as the absolute truth. Now that's fine, I don't have a problem with that in itself. Believe whatever you want to believe. Maybe there's no God at all, I can't prove that either. My problem comes when you try to present that as more than a matter of faith, or somehow superior to that of somebody who decides to believe another book, like the Quran. I do have a tendency to go on the attack against you, and the reason is that you have a tendency to harp on about the moral destitution of modern society, on the basis of behaviors that don't happen to fit within your narrow definition of what is moral. I find that arrogant, and it gets my goat. |
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| Aug-16-10 | | The Chess Express: <whatthefat> That's just the way religious fanaticism has always been. If one is willing to believe that God will burn those in hell forever who don't meet a certain criteria then it becomes all but impossible not to project that attitude onto others. What's the point of taking it personally? They have to change on their own. When it comes to religion and spirituality I never believe anything unless it produces real tangible evidence in the way of positive changes in my life. When I believed the way <playground player> does I was miserable. When I finally rejected the monster that certain places in the Bible describe as "god" I was happy. For me that's all the evidence I need. One of the main purposes of religion is to improve ones life. That's something too many Christians forget because of all the guilt they have and wish to inflict on others. <<<<<John 10:10>>>> The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.> |
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| Aug-17-10 | | cormier: http://www.usccb.org/nab/081710.shtml |
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| Aug-17-10 | | cormier: 'Israel has 8 days to strike Iran'
Jerusalem Post - ý1 hour agoý
By JPOST.COM STAFF Former US envoy to the UN John Bolton said Monday that if Israel wants to prevent Iran from acquiring a working nuclear plant, than a military strike must be launched against the Bushehr nuclear power facility within the next eight ... (nc) russia is fueling iran for it's nuke plant .... USA is selling 20 F35 STEALT to israel ..... unrespoabilities of computer driven governments, EU AND UN hiding in the dark, as if not knowing who's gonna fry??? |
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