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| Oct-23-12 | | truefriends: <OCF> I just finished filling up my profil with all the info i can generate that could be useful in current discusssions. Just a lot of analysis from a few lesser used engines for example. You can leave "CRITTER ANALYSIS" on the sticky if you want (or come up with something better ofcourse), but maybe you can at least give the kibitzers a hint there is more to find when you make your next post on the main forum? Many thanks in advance! |
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| Oct-24-12 | | OneArmedScissor: Nietzsche's great insight was that every interpretation is in fact an interpretation of an interpretation. This is where the relationship between philosophy and history lies, not in a direct philosophy of action deriving from historical experience, nor a faith in history leading ideology down the progressive path, but rather over the fundamental interpretations of ideas which are determined through the class struggle. The failure to defend the experiences of socialism is the greatest failure of the 1st world left, this is not an attempt to seek truth, but simply a capitulation to the interpretation of history by the bourgeoisie. Ironically, this is strongest from the so called "post-modern" left, who think they reject truth, but in fact capitulate to bourgeois truth. |
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Oct-24-12
 | | OhioChessFan: I agree about the infinite regression of interpretations, though some fundamental truths are innately recognized. |
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Oct-24-12
| | OhioChessFan: There <has> to be a great headline for this story: <Baseball Hall of Famer Carlton Fisk was arrested and charged with DUI Monday night in Illinois, TMZ.com reports.Fisk, 64, allegedly drove his F-150 truck into the middle a (sic) corn field in New Lenox, Ill., the website reports, citing law enforcement officials. Police recevied a call about the indcident around 7:20 p.m. CT. When they arrived, officers say they found Fisk asleep behind the wheel of the truck. They found an open vodka bottle in the vehicle, TMZ says. > http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/sto... Putting on thinking cap.... |
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Oct-24-12
| | OhioChessFan: "Absolut Idiot"
"Funny Stoli With a Twist" |
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Oct-24-12
| | OhioChessFan: "Catcher in the Corn" |
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Oct-24-12
| | OhioChessFan: *** Hosting 19. g5 *** |
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| Oct-24-12 | | hms123: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 1.5a w32: 24 ply
1.  (-0.27): 19...hxg5 20.a6 b6 21.fxg5 Rh8 22.Ng3 Nf8 23.Bf4 Kg8 24.Qf2 Qe8 25.b4 Rc8 26.Qd2 Bh5 27.Nxh5 Qxh5 28.Be2 Qh7 29.Bg3 Ng6 2. = (-0.06): 19...Bh5 20.Qf2 hxg5 21.fxg5 Rh8 22.Ng3 Kg8 23.Nxh5 Qxh5 24.Be2 Qh4 25.Qxh4 Rxh4 26.Bd2 c5 27.Be1 Rh8 28.a6 b6 29.Rc1 Nf8 30.Bf2 3. = (0.12): 19...Rac8 20.gxh6 gxh6 21.Qf2 Rg8 22.Ng3 c5 23.a6 b6 24.Bb5 Bh4 25.Qe2 cxd4 26.cxd4 Nb8 27.Qe3 Nc6 28.Bd2 Qd7 29.Rac1 Be7 4. = (0.12): 19...Rh8 20.gxh6 Kxh6 21.c4 Kh7 22.Ng3 a6 23.Be2 Rab8 24.Be3 dxc4 25.Qxc4 Kg8 26.Rac1 Rh6 27.Kg2 Bh7 28.Bh5 5. = (0.13): 19...a6 20.gxh6 gxh6 21.c4 Rg8 22.Qg2 Bh5 23.Ng3 Bh4 24.Ra3 Rg7 25.Qf2 Rag8 26.Bd2 Bg4 27.Rb3 Nf8 28.cxd5 cxd5 29.Bb4 Be7 (hms123, 24.10.2012) |
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| Oct-26-12 | | capafan: Just noticed that 19...Kh8 is not even on <hms123>'s list, but some have mentioned it anyway... 19.h3 Kh8 20.Ne3 Bh7 21.gxf5 exf5 22.Rg2 b5
(22...g6 23.c4)
23.axb6 Nxb6 24.Qe2 g5 25.Nf1
White looks good either way here, so maybe 19...Kh8 is not so good. |
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Oct-26-12
| | OhioChessFan: Thanks <capa> I guess people feel we're almost at 19..any 20. Ne3 |
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| Oct-27-12 | | DcGentle: Repost:
Here there is a new line with <19. h3 Kh8 20. Ne3 Bh7>: 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 Kh8 20. Ne3 Bh7 
click for larger view21. gxf5 exf5 22. c4 g5 23. cxd5 gxf4 24. Ng2 Qxd5 25. Bc4 Qf3 26. Qc3 Qxc3 27. bxc3 f3 28. Nf4 b5 29. Ba2 f2 30. Rf1 Bh4 31. Be3 Rfb8 32. Kg2 b4 33. cxb4 Rxb4 34. Rfb1 Rab8 35. Rxb4 Rxb4 36. Rc1 Ra4 37. Bf7 Kg7 38. Rxc6 Kxf7 39. Rxh6 Bg8 40. Rxh4 f1=Q+ 41. Kxf1 
click for larger viewThe white pawns will decide the day. |
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| Oct-28-12 | | adhitthana: <OhioChessFan: Thanks <capa> I guess people feel we're almost at 19..any 20. Ne3> I don't doubt that may happen but there seems little posted analysis of <19...Rc8 20.Ne3>
On what basis would we play <20.Ne3> in response to 19...Rc8 There has been talk that 20.Ne3 does not appear in computer analysis because computers dont see the value in it. Whether that is true I can't say.
Perhaps on that basis the only analysis in the tree is after forcing several moves then letting Rybka examine it. This then gives a strong score for white. But I'm not sure that analysis is necessarily solid |
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| Oct-28-12 | | adhitthana: I've been looking at 19...Rac8. 20.Ng3 c5 21.Be3 cxd4 22.Bxd4 Bc5.
black looks fine and might possibly think about a win.
click for larger viewWith 19...Rac8. <20.Ne3> c5 21.gxf5 Bxf5 22.Nxf5 exf5 23.Be3
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And white is looking to double rooks on the g file.
Improvements for black? |
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| Oct-28-12 | | adhitthana: <MikeB20> has pointed out that I missed 19...Rc8 20.Ne3 c5"
21.gxf5 Bxf5 22. Bxf5+ exf5 23. Qg2 is strong for black. So it seems <Rac8> followed <c5> is not a worry for us. :) |
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Oct-28-12
 | | chancho: Zapp
It Doesn't Really Matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuzy... |
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| Oct-30-12 | | DcGentle: Repost:
Here there is a possible mainline against 20... a6:
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 b5 20. Ne3 a6 
click for larger view21. Bd2 Kh8 22. gxf5 Bxf5 23. Nxf5 exf5 24. Rg2 g6 25. Rag1 Rg8 26. b3 Qe6 27. c4 Raf8 28. cxb5 cxb5 29. Rc1 Nb8 30. Qc7 Rc8 31. Qb6 Qxb6 32. axb6 Rxc1+ 33. Bxc1 Rc8 34. Bd2 Kh7 35. Ba5 Nd7 36. Rc2 Rxc2 37. Bxc2 Kg7 38. b7 Kf7 39. Kg2 Ba3 40. Kf3 Bc1 41. Bc7 Bb2 42. b8=Q Nxb8 43. Bxb8 Bxd4 44. Bd6 Bb2 45. Bc5 
click for larger viewWhite have a surplus bishop, so their bishop pair can easily deal with Black's 2 surplus pawns. |
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| Oct-30-12 | | Travis Bickle: <OhioChessFan> Elvis when you were young you sure were cool! That's Alright Mama
http://youtu.be/yWgprZu4Hk4 |
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| Oct-31-12 | | capafan: if 20...Rab8:
The engines suggest the same 21.gxf5 lines as it does against other 20...Rxx moves. If we then assume 21.gxf5 is similarly unsatisfactory as against 20...Rae8, then we proceed in a the same manner as <imag>'s recommended line against 20...Rae8 (assumes Black refuses to take with fxg4): 21.Bd2 Kh8 22.Rg2 Bh7 23.gxf5 exf5
leading to this analysis:
from AT: node 11118
<imag> Houdini 2: (to be replaced by deeper analysis) [+1.11] d=30 24.b3 Rb8 25.Rc1 c5 26.Rcg1 g6 27.Be2 Rfd8 28.Bf3 Nf8 29.dxc5 Bxc5 30.b4 Be7 31.Qa2 Bg8 32.Nc2 a6 33.Be3 By playing 20...Rab8, Black may save a tempo in the above line which shows the Black rook moving from Re8 to Rb8 on move 24.. As the Black rook is already on b8 in this line, the extra tempo may allow Black to play 24.g6 before White can prepare c4. We need to determine if we can avoid giving Black the extra tempo or whether the extra tempo is meaningful. 
click for larger viewAfter 20....Rab8 21.Bd2 Kh8 22.Rg2 Bh7 23.gxf5 exf5 24.b3 Stockfish 2.3.1 recommends: 24....g6
I will explore this deeper. |
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| Oct-31-12 | | DcGentle: Repost:
Here there is an interesting line against <20... Rab8>. Note the subtleties of queenside threats and kingside attack that are at White's disposal here. Very important is the diagonal d1 - h5. Black cannot hold because he cannot defend pawn d5 and prevent the advance of the h-pawn simultaneously. 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 b5 20. Ne3 Rab8 
click for larger view21. Bd2 Kh8 22. gxf5 Bxf5 23. Nxf5 exf5 24. Rg2 g6 25. Rag1 Rg8 26. h4 h5 27. Be1 a6 28. Be2 Qh7 29. Qd1 Qh6 30. Bd3 Qh7 31. b3 Rbc8 32. c4 Qf7 33. Be2 Rcd8 34. Bf3 Nf8 35. cxd5 cxd5 36. Bxh5 Qh7 37. Bf3 Ne6 38. Bg3 Qh6 39. Rh2 Qf8 40. Qd3 Qf7 41. Rc1 Qe8 42. Bf2 Rg7 43. Be3 Rh7 44. h5 g5 45. fxg5 Nxg5 46. Bxg5 Bxg5 47. Rg1 Qe7 48. Rh3 Rf7 49. h6 Rff8 50. Rh5 Bf4 51. h7
click for larger viewwith the threat 52. Rg8+ and quick checkmate.
I also looked at <27... c5>: The line <27... c5 28. Be2 c4 29. Bf3 Rbd8 30. Qe2 Nf8 31. Bxh5 Rg7 32. Qe3 a6 33. Qh3 Qe6 34. Bf3> will give White a great game as well. |
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| Nov-09-12 | | OneArmedScissor: <OhioChessFan>
Can you look at my game and tell me what's up? I'm playing the black side of a Sicilian. 1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 d6
3. Bc4 Nc6
4. Nc3 e6
5. d3 a6
6. O-O b5
7. Bb3 Na5
8. Bf4 Nxb3
9. axb3 Bb7
10. Re1 Nf6
11. e5 dxe5
12. Nxe5 Be7
13. Qd2 O-O
14. Ne2 Qd5
15. Nf3 Rfd8
16. Ng3 Qc6
17. Qe2 Nd5
18. Bd2 Bf6
19. Rab1 Nb4
20. Bxb4 cxb4
21. Ne4 Kh8
22. Qe3 Rac8
23. Re2 a5
24. Kf1 Rd5
25. Qf4 Rf5
26. Qg3 a4
27. bxa4 bxa4
28. Nh4 Be5
29. Qh3 Rf4
30. f3 a3
31. bxa3 bxa3
32. c4 Qa6
33. Ra2 Rxc4
34. Ng6+ fxg6
35. Ng5 Rc1+
36. Rxc1 Qxd3+
37. Kg1 Bd4+
38. Kh1 h6
39. Nxe6 Rxf3
40. Qg4 Rf1+
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Nov-09-12
| | OhioChessFan: I didn't like the 14. Ne2 idea. While that did open the d5 square for your Queen, I didn't like 14..Qd5. Bxf3 is not a bad move at any point, if you can't keep the Bishop pair, at least put a hurting on White's Pawn structure, and the Queen is sort of in the way there. 17...Nd5 was a nice centralization, and maybe the point of Qd5. I'd have gone with 22...Qxc2. A Pawn is a Pawn. But building up on the c file was all right too. Pretty obvious your plan was to push and push the Queenside Pawns. Okay, tired tonight, bad day at work, letting Fritz take over. White missed 25. Nxf6 gxf6 26. Qh6, and it's really messy. You kept to your theme of pushing the Queenside Pawns, and White panicked a bit with 33. Ra2. (33. Ng5 immediately with the same threats as the game, but your Rook isn't sitting on c4) 37. Kg1 was questionable (37. Re2) Hard to see, I sure didn't see it at first, maybe that's a sign of my lack of skills, but 39..Qe3 would have been better for you, and 40. Qg4 was a losing blunder (gxf3 and White is okay). |
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| Nov-10-12 | | DcGentle: Not always it makes up a long line to mate if pieces are exchanged: 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 b5 20. Ne3 fxg4 21. hxg4 Bxd3 22. Qxd3+ Kg8 23. b4 g5 
click for larger view24. f5 Qh7 25. Rf1 Bd8 26. Qd1 Re8 27. Ra2 Bc7 28. Rh2 Nxe5 29. dxe5 Bxe5 30. Rh3 Bxc3 31. Nxd5 cxd5 32. Rxc3 Rf8 33. Rh3 Qg7 34. fxe6 Rae8 35. Rhf3 Rxf3 36. Qxf3 Rf8 37. Qe2 Rxf1+ 38. Qxf1 Qf8 39. Qf5 Qxf5 40. gxf5 d4 41. a6 d3 42. f6 h5 
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The white pawn roller rules, because it's more advanced! And both pawns will queen. (Of course bishop c1 helps as well.) 43. Be3 d2 44. Bxd2 h4 45. f7+ Kg7 46. Bxg5 Kg6 47. f8=Q Kxg5 48. e7 h3 49. e8=Q h2 50. Qe3+ Kh5 51. Qf5+ Kh4 52. Qe1# |
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| Nov-11-12 | | DcGentle: Repost:
Well, a nice try is <23... c5>, but not really dangerous: 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 b5 20. Ne3 fxg4 21. hxg4 Bxd3 22. Qxd3+ Kg8 23. b4 c5 
click for larger view24. Bd2 c4 25. Qe2 Rad8 26. Raf1 Nb8 27. Rg2 Nc6 28. g5 hxg5 29. f5 Qe8 30. Qg4 a6 31. Rh2 Bf6 32. Qh3 exf5 33. Nxf5 Nxe5 34. Qh7+ Kf7 35. Nxg7 Qc6 36. Nh5+ Ke8 37. dxe5 Rd7 38. Nxf6+ Kd8 39. Nxd7 Rxf1+ 40. Kg2 d4+ 41. Kxf1 Qf3+ 42. Rf2 Qd3+ 43. Qxd3 cxd3 44. Rf7 Kc7 45. Nb6+ Kd8 46. e6 dxc3 47. Bxg5+ Ke8 48. Nd5 d2 49. Nc7# 1-0 
click for larger viewThe shorter the games, the nicer. This is not a pure mate, but a rare one.
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| Nov-12-12 | | DcGentle: Repost:
Here there is a line with <24. Rf1 h5?!>. As we have seen in another line, also here the hero pawn a5 is promoted to a queen. Notice the queen sac in move 37. 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nf3 e6 5. Be2 Nd7 6. O-O Bg6 7. a4 Ne7 8. a5 Nf5 9. c3 h6 10. Nbd2 Be7 11. g4 Nh4 12. Nxh4 Bxh4 13. f4 f5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. Kh1 Qe8 16. Qc2 Kh7 17. Rg1 Be7 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. h3 b5 20. Ne3 fxg4 21. hxg4 Bxd3 22. Qxd3+ Kg8 23. b4 Bd8 24. Rf1 h5 
click for larger view25. Ra2 h4 26. f5 Bg5 27. fxe6 Qxe6 28. Nf5 Bxc1 29. Rxc1 Rae8 30. Rf1 g5 31. Raf2 a6 32. Kh2 Kh8 33. Qd2 Rg8 34. Kh3 Ref8 35. Nd6 Rxf2 36. Qxf2 Rf8 37. Qxf8+ Nxf8 38. Rxf8+ Kg7 39. Rf6 Qd7 40. Nf5+ Kg8 41. e6 Qd8 42. Rg6+ Kh7 43. e7 Qe8 44. Re6 Kg8 45. Nd6 Qb8 46. Rf6 Kg7 47. e8=Q Qxe8 48. Nxe8+ Kh7 49. Rxc6 Kg8 50. Rxa6 Kf7 51. Rh6 Kg8 52. a6 Kf7 53. a7 Kf8 54. a8=Q Kf7 55. Qa7+ Kxe8 56. Rh8# 1-0 
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| Nov-12-12 | | truefriends: Just opened my forum... Let the fun begin!
Ofcourse id like to volunteer to host a forum on the next move! |
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