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   Sep-27-08 rinus chessforum (replies)
 
rinus: Hi all, This is not Rinus. I am his son and I have very sad news. On August 17 he died suddenly and completely unexpected. We (my brother, sister and I) have heard many stories about this chess-forum and he enjoyed playing the game and the forum. Regards, Ate
 
   Aug-17-08 The World vs G Timmerman, 2007 (replies)
 
rinus: Although: She was nifty, shifty; she looked about fifty! I woulda run away, but I was on my own. She told me, later, she was a machine-operator. She said I like the way I held the microphone. And then I said Hi., like a spider to a fly; A-jump right ahead in my web.
 
   Aug-14-08 kutztown46 chessforum (replies)
 
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   Aug-14-08 T J Craig vs T Turgut, 2006
 
rinus: Slid back. After <39...Bg7> Tom James Craig - Dr. Tansel Turgut, ICCF 2006 [DIAGRAM] Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (21-ply): 1. (-0.80): 40.Rf2 Kh8 41.Rxg7 Rxg7 42.Qxf4 Qxf2+ 43.Qxf2 Nxf2 44.Kxf2 Ra7 45.Bxd5 Kg7 46.Bf3 Ra4 47.Ke3 Rxa3+ 48.Kf4 Kf6 49.h4 Rd3 50.d5 Rd4+ 51.Kg3 Kg6
 
   Aug-13-08 Karpova chessforum (replies)
 
rinus: <Karpova> Just checked your poll for a reason; I just read the first part of <whatthefat>'s annotations on the game. I couldn't figure out his vote (<8.Qb3> or <8.d5>), and that's a good thing. He's neutral and objective in his observations! But curious as ...
 
   Aug-11-08 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
rinus: <YouRang> That will be a quick <38.h4>-vote. <CG> Will the voting be open in the Nickel game?
 
   Aug-11-08 Gert Timmerman (replies)
 
rinus: Gert Jan, het was waarlijk een opgave om tegen je te spelen. Bedankt!
 
   Aug-01-08 mckmck chessforum (replies)
 
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   Jul-30-08 twinlark chessforum (replies)
 
rinus: Latro ergo sum.
 
   Jul-27-08 RandomVisitor chessforum (replies)
 
rinus: <RV> FYI Wat een schat, <die> Gert Jan What a really nice guy, <that> Gert Jan If GMT were female then <darling> instead of <really nice guy> would be acceptable. The usage of <die> (or <that> in English) makes it totally clear, that NOT THE ...
 
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Jun-07-08
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  rinus: After <17.Bc3>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 <17. Bc3> Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (25-ply):

1. (0.80): 17...Qb3 18.a4 Qb6 19.a5 Qa7 20.Bd4 b6 21.axb6 Rxb6 22.Rac1 c5 23.Rxc4 Qb8 24.Nxc5 Nxe5 25.Bxe5 Qxe5 26.Nd3 Qb8 27.Ne5 Qxe5 28.Rxc8+ Ke7 29.f4 h5 30.Qh4+ g5 31.fxe5 gxh4 32.Rc7+ Ke8 33.Bc6+

2. (0.92): 17...Qb5 18.a4 Qb6 19.a5 Qa7 20.Bd4 b6 21.axb6 Rxb6 22.Rac1 c5 23.Rxc4 Qb8 24.Nxc5 Nxe5 25.Bxe5 Qxe5 26.Nd3 Qb8 27.Ne5 Qxe5 28.Rxc8+ Ke7 29.f4 Qe3+ 30.Kh1 f6 31.Rc7+ Ke8 32.Bf3 a5 33.Bc6+

3. (1.56): 17...Qc2 18.a4 b5 19.Rd2 Qb3 20.Rb2 bxa4 21.Rxb3 cxb3 22.Rd1 b2 23.Nd2 a3 24.Bc6 a2 25.Bxb2 Rxb2 26.Qd4 a1Q 27.Rxa1 Rb4 28.Nc4 Be7 29.Rd1 0-0 30.Bxd7 Rd8 31.Bxc8 Rxd4 32.Rxd4 Rb1+ 33.Kg2

4. (1.98): 17...Qb6 18.Rab1 Qa7 19.Bd4 b6 20.Ng5 Be7 21.Nxe6 c5 22.Nxg7+ Kf8 23.Be3 Nxe5 24.Ne6+ Bxe6 25.Bh6+ Ke8 26.Qg7 Nd3 27.Qxh8+ Kd7 28.Qxh7 b5 29.Bf4 Bd6 30.Bxd6 Kxd6 31.Qg7 Kc7 32.Qg5 Rh8 33.Qe7+

5. (4.15): 17...h5 18.Qf4 Qc2 19.Rac1 Qxc1 20.Qxc1 Be7 21.Qe3 h4 22.gxh4 Bxa3 23.Ba5 b6 24.Qxa3 bxa5 25.Qxa5 Nb6 26.Nc5 0-0 27.Qc3 Nd5 28.Bxd5 exd5 29.Rxd5 Rb1+ 30.Kg2 Be6 31.Nxe6 fxe6 32.Rd7 Rf7 33.Rd8+

6. (4.40): 17...Qxa1 18.Rxa1 Nb6 19.Bb4 h6 20.Bxf8 Kxf8 21.Nd2 g6 22.Nxc4 Nd7 23.Qf4 g5 24.Qe3 b6 25.Rd1 Kg7 26.f4 g4 27.f5 exf5 28.e6 fxe6 29.Qxe6 Rf8 30.Rxd7+ Bxd7 31.Qxd7+ Rf7 32.Qd4+ Kh7 33.Bc6

Jun-08-08
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  rinus: After <16.Bd2>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 <16. Bd2> Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (0.09): 16...h5 17.Qg5 Qxb2 18.Bc3 Qb6 19.h4 a5 20.Rd4 Qb5 21.Rad1 Qa4 22.Bf3 Qxa3 23.Qf4 Be7 24.Rxc4 Bd8 25.Rcd4 b6 26.Be2 f5 27.exf6 gxf6 28.Bb5 Rh7 29.Ra1

2. (0.26): 16...Qb5 17.Qe2 Nb6 18.Nc3 Qb3 19.Be3 c6 20.Be4 Nd5 21.Rab1 Nxe3 22.Qxe3 c5 23.Qg5 Bd7 24.Rd2 h6 25.Qg4 Rc8 26.Rbd1 Rc7 27.Qf3 Be7 28.h4 g6 29.Qf4

3. (0.62): 16...Ra8 17.Bc3 Nb6 18.Bb4 Nd5 19.Bxf8 Kxf8 20.Qg5 Qb5 21.Nc3 h6 22.Qd8+ Qe8 23.Qxe8+ Kxe8 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Nxd5 Rb8 26.Nxc7+ Ke7 27.Nd5+ Ke6 28.f4 b5 29.Ne3 Rb6 30.a4 Bb7 31.a5 Rc6 32.Kf2

4. (0.65): 16...h6 17.Ba5 b6 18.Bc3 Qa4 19.Rd4 b5 20.Rad1 c5 21.R4d2 b4 22.axb4 cxb4 23.Bd4 Qb5 24.Nd6+ Bxd6 25.exd6 Rg8 26.Re1 Qg5 27.Qxg5 hxg5 28.Rc2 Bb7 29.Rxc4 Bxg2 30.Kxg2 Kd8 31.Rc7

5. (0.76): 16...Qb6 17.Bc3 h5 18.Qg5 h4 19.gxh4 Ra8 20.Rac1 a5 21.Bf3 Rh6 22.h5 Qb5 23.h4 Ra7 24.Rc2 Ra8 25.Rcd2 Rb8 26.Kf1 Ra8 27.Re2 Qb3 28.Re3 f6 29.exf6

6. (0.86): 16...Qa4 17.b4 Qb5 18.Bc3 Nb6 19.Nc5 Nd7 20.a4 Qb6 21.Ne4 h5 22.Qg5 h4 23.g4 h3 24.Bf1 Rg8 25.Qf4 Be7 26.Bxc4 f6 27.a5 Qc6 28.exf6 gxf6

Jun-09-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <15.a3>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 <15. a3> Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (-0.24): 15...Qb6 16.Qe2 Nxe5 17.Be3 Qb3 18.Bd4 Nd3 19.Qe3 Bd7 20.Nd2 Qb5 21.Nxc4 Nxf2 22.Qxf2 Qxc4 23.Rac1 Qa4 24.Be5 Bd6 25.Bxg7 Rg8 26.Rd4 Qb5 27.a4 Qf5 28.Qxf5 exf5

2. (-0.10): 15...Qa5 16.Qe2 Be7 17.Bd2 Qa4 18.Rac1 0-0 19.Rxc4 Qb5 20.Qf1 Nxe5 21.Rxc7 Qxf1+ 22.Rxf1 Bd8 23.Rc2 Nc6 24.Re1 Be7 25.Nc5 Nd4 26.Rcc1 Rd8 27.Bf4 Bd6 28.Bxd6 Rxd6

3. (-0.01): 15...Qb5 16.a4 Qa5 17.Bd2 Qxe5 18.Bf4 Qa5 19.Qe2 Bb4 20.Nd2 Bxd2 21.Bxd2 Qc5 22.Be3 Qb4 23.Rac1 Nb6 24.Bxb6 Qxb6 25.Rxc4 0-0 26.Qe5 Qb3 27.Rdd4 Qxb2 28.Rxc7 f6

4. (0.00): 15...Qb3 16.Bd2 h5 17.Qg5 Qxb2 18.Bc3 Qb6 19.h4 a5 20.Rd4 Qb5 21.Rd2 a4 22.Bf3 b6 23.Rad1 Qb3 24.Ra1 Qb5

5. (0.18): 15...h5 16.Qe2 Qb5 17.a4 Qa5 18.Bd2 Bb4 19.Qxc4 Bxd2 20.Rxd2 b5 21.Qc2 Nxe5 22.Qc5 f6 23.Rad1 Nd7 24.Qc2 bxa4 25.Qc6 Qb6 26.Qxa4 Qb5 27.Qc2 0-0 28.Qxc7

6. (0.25): 15...Qa4 16.Bd2 Qb5 17.Qe2 Be7 18.a4 Qxe5 19.Bc3 Qf5 20.Qxc4 0-0 21.g4 Qg6 22.Qxc7 Qxg4 23.Rxd7 Bxd7 24.Qxd7 Qh4 25.Qd4 Qh6 26.Bd2 Qh5 27.Qd7 Rfe8 28.Rc1

Jun-12-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <14.Qg4>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 <14. Qg4> Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (25-ply):

1. (-0.11): 14...Rg8 15.Qe2 Nb6 16.Nc3 Bd7 17.Be3 Rh8 18.Rd2 h5 19.Rad1 Ba4 20.Rc1 Bb5 21.Bxb6 cxb6 22.Nxb5 axb5 23.Rcd1 h4 24.g4 Qc5 25.Rd7 Rd8 26.Rxd8+ Bxd8 27.Qd2 Qc7 28.Be4 g5 29.Bxb7

2. (0.00): 14...g6 15.Bg5 h6 16.a3 Qxb2 17.Bxe7 Kxe7 18.Qf4 Rf8 19.Rab1 Qxa3 20.Qh4+ Ke8 21.Nf6+ Nxf6 22.Qxf6 Bd7 23.Bxb7 Qe7 24.Qf4 Qc5 25.Qf6 Qe7

3. (0.00): 14...Kf8 15.Bg5 Bxg5 16.Qxg5 Qe7 17.Qd2 b5 18.Qd4 f5 19.exf6 gxf6 20.a4 Kg7 21.axb5 axb5 22.Ra7 e5 23.Qe3 Nb6 24.Nc3 Bg4 25.Rda1 b4 26.Nd5 Nxd5 27.Bxd5 c3 28.bxc3 bxc3 29.Qxc3

4. (0.00): 14...Bf8 15.Qe2 Be7

5. (0.00): 14...0-0 15.Bh6 g6 16.Rab1 Qa5 17.Bxf8 Kxf8 18.Nf6 Nxe5 19.Qf4 Kg7 20.Ne8+ Kf8 21.Nf6

6. (0.36): 14...Qa5 15.Bd2 Qxe5 16.Bc3 h5 17.Qe2 Qb5 18.a4 Qf5 19.Qxc4 0-0 20.Qxc7 Bd8 21.Qd6 Bb6 22.Kh1 Re8 23.a5 Bd8 24.Qd2 Be7 25.Nd6 Bxd6 26.Qxd6 Qxf2 27.Be4 e5

Jun-13-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <13.Ne4>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 <13. Ne4> Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (25-ply):

1. (0.00): 13...Qb4 14.Qg4 Rg8 15.Qe2 Nb6 16.Rb1 h6 17.Bd2 Qb5 18.Nc3 Qc5 19.Ne4 Qb5

2. (0.00): 13...Qb5 14.a4 Qb3 15.Be3 b5 16.Ba7 Rb7 17.Bd4 Rb8 18.Qg4 0-0 19.Nd2 Qd3 20.Ne4 Qb3

3. (0.21): 13...Qxe5 14.Bf4 Qa5 15.Qxc4 e5 16.Bg5 b5 17.Qc1 f6 18.Bd2 Qb6 19.Be3 c5 20.b4 0-0 21.bxc5 Qc7 22.Nd6 Kh8 23.Rb1 f5 24.Qc3 Bxd6 25.Rxd6 Bb7 26.Bxb7 Qxb7

4. (0.23): 13...Qa5 14.Bd2 Bb4 15.Qxc4 Bxd2 16.Rxd2 0-0 17.f4 c6 18.Qd4 Qb6 19.Rc1 Qxd4+ 20.Rxd4 Nb6 21.Rd6 Nd5 22.Bf3 Nb4 23.Nc3 Nd5 24.Be2 Re8 25.Kf2 g6 26.Bd3 Kg7 27.Nxd5 exd5

5. (0.24): 13...Qb6 14.Qxc4 0-0 15.Bf4 Ra8 16.Qc2 c6 17.Rd3 Qa5 18.Nd6 Bxd6 19.exd6 Nf6 20.Bd2 Qf5 21.Re1 Rd8 22.b3 Nd5 23.Be4 Qh5 24.Qc5 f6 25.Ba5 Rd7 26.Bxd5 exd5

6. (0.78): 13...Qa7 14.Qg4 Rg8 15.Nf6+ Nxf6 16.exf6 Bxf6 17.Qxc4 c5 18.Bf4 Bd4 19.Rac1 Bd7 20.Bxb8 Qxb8 21.b4 b6 22.Qxa6 Ke7 23.Qd3 g6 24.Qe4 Qa7 25.Rd2 Qa6 26.Bf3 Rd8 27.Be2 Qa3 28.Qh4+ Ke8

Jun-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <12.e5>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 <12. e5> Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (0.00): 12...Nd7 13.Ne4 Qb5 14.a4 Qb3 15.Be3 b5 16.Ba7 Rb7 17.Bd4 Rb8 18.Qg4 0-0 19.Nd2 Qb4 20.Bc3 Qc5 21.Bd4 Qb4

2. (0.28): 12...Nd5 13.Nxd5 exd5 14.Be3 Qa5 15.Bxd5 0-0 16.Qc2 c3 17.bxc3 c6 18.Be4 g6 19.Rab1 Bg4 20.Rd2 b5 21.Bxc6 Rbc8 22.Bd7 Rxc3 23.Qe4 Rc4 24.Qb7 Bxd7 25.Qxd7

3. (1.37): 12...Ng8 13.Be3 Qa5 14.Qg4 Kf8 15.Qxc4 c6 16.Ne4 Qc7 17.Nd6 h5 18.Rac1 h4 19.Qb3 Ra8 20.g4 Nh6 21.Rc4 Kg8 22.Bb6 Qb8 23.Ba5 Ra7 24.Nxc8 Qxc8

4. (3.42): 12...Ng4 13.Qxg4 0-0 14.Bf4 Kh8 15.Ne4 Qb4 16.Nf6 Qxb2 17.Qh5 Bxf6 18.exf6 g6 19.Qc5 Bd7 20.Bxc7 Rbe8 21.Rdb1 Qc2 22.Rxb7 Rc8 23.Qd4 Bb5 24.Be4 Qe2 25.Rb1 Qxa2

5. (3.50): 12...0-0 13.exf6 Bxf6 14.Ne4 Qf5 15.Nxf6+ Qxf6 16.Bf4 Qe7 17.Qxc4 e5 18.Re1 Be6 19.Rxe5 Rbe8 20.Rae1 c6 21.b3 Qd7 22.Qb4 Re7 23.Be4 Rfe8 24.Qc3 f6 25.Rh5 Bf5 26.Qc4+ Qe6

6. (3.63): 12...Nh5 13.Qxh5 h6 14.Be3 Qb4 15.Bd2 Qc5 16.a4 Qb6 17.Qg4 g5 18.Qxc4 0-0 19.Be3 Qa5 20.f4 c6 21.Kh1 Rd8 22.Rxd8+ Bxd8 23.b4 Qc7 24.Rd1 Be7 25.Be4 gxf4 26.Bxf4

Jun-15-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <11.Rd1>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 <11. Rd1> Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (-0.19): 11...Qb6 12.Be3 Qa5 13.Qxc4 0-0 14.Bf4 e5 15.Nd5 Nxd5 16.Rxd5 b5 17.Bxe5 Be6 18.Bc3 Qb6 19.Qd4 Qxd4 20.Rxd4 Rfd8 21.Rdd1 Bg4 22.Rxd8+ Rxd8 23.e5 b4 24.Be1 f6 25.exf6 Bxf6 26.Bxb4 Bxb2

2. (0.00): 11...Qe5 12.Qxc4 Qa5 13.e5 Nd7 14.Bd2 Nxe5 15.Qe2 Bd6 16.Ne4 Bb4 17.Nc3 0-0 18.a3 Bd6 19.Ne4 Qb6 20.Be3 Qb3 21.Nxd6 cxd6 22.Rxd6 Nc4 23.Rd3 Qxb2 24.Qxb2 Nxb2

3. (0.00): 11...Qc5 12.e5 Nd7 13.Ne4 Qb5 14.a4 Qb3 15.Be3 b5 16.Ba7 Rb7 17.Bd4 Rb8 18.Qg4 0-0 19.Nd2 Qb4 20.Bc3 Qc5 21.Bd4 Qb4

4. (0.13): 11...Qa7 12.e5 Nd7 13.Qg4 g6 14.Qxc4 b5 15.Qe2 Bb7 16.Ne4 h6 17.a4 bxa4 18.Rxa4 Qb6 19.Nc3 Bxg2 20.Kxg2 Bg5 21.f4 Nc5 22.Rc4 Be7 23.Be3 0-0 24.Bxc5 Bxc5

5. (4.00): 11...Qxd1+ 12.Nxd1 b5 13.Bf4 0-0 14.Bxc7 Rb7 15.Ba5 Rd7 16.Nc3 Bb7 17.e5 Nd5 18.Nxd5 Bxd5 19.Rd1 Bc5 20.Bxd5 Rxd5 21.Rxd5 exd5 22.Qf3 Bd4 23.Bc3 Bxc3 24.bxc3 Rd8 25.Qg4 a5 26.Kg2 b4

6. (4.50): 11...Qd3 12.Rxd3 cxd3 13.Qxd3 e5 14.Bg5 c6 15.Nd1 h6 16.Be3 Be6 17.Qc3 Nd7 18.f4 exf4 19.gxf4 f6 20.Nf2 0-0 21.Rd1 Rbd8 22.b3 Rfe8 23.Bf3 Nf8 24.Nd3 Ng6

Jun-16-08
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  rinus: After <9.Qe2>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 8. e4 Be7 <9. Qe2> Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (-0.19): 9...Nxd4 10.Nxd4 Qxd4 11.Rd1 Qb6 12.Be3 Qa5 13.Qxc4 0-0 14.Bf4 e5 15.Nd5 Nxd5 16.Rxd5 Qb6 17.Bxe5 Be6 18.Qxc7 Qxc7 19.Bxc7 Rbc8 20.Bf4 Bxd5 21.exd5 Bf6 22.Re1 Rc2 23.d6 Rxb2 24.d7

2. (-0.06): 9...b5 10.Rd1 Nb4 11.Ne1 0-0 12.Bf4 Re8 13.b3 cxb3 14.axb3 Bb7 15.Nf3 Nd7 16.Na2 Ra8 17.Nxb4 Bxb4 18.Rac1 Bd6 19.Bd2 f6 20.e5 fxe5 21.dxe5 Ba3 22.Rc2 Bc5 23.b4

3. (0.26): 9...0-0 10.Qxc4 b5 11.Qd3 Bb7 12.Rd1 Na5 13.Rb1 Qe8 14.Re1 Rd8 15.Bf4 Qd7 16.Rbd1 Nh5 17.Be3 Nc4 18.Qe2 Nxe3 19.Ne5 Qe8 20.Qxe3 f6 21.Nd3 Qg6

4. (0.42): 9...Nd7 10.Rd1 Na5 11.Bf4 0-0 12.d5 b5 13.Qc2 Kh8 14.Rab1 g5 15.Be3 e5 16.Bh3 f6 17.b4 cxb3 18.axb3 Nb6 19.Bxc8 Nxc8 20.Ra1 Bb4 21.Na2 Bd6 22.b4 Nc4

5. (0.54): 9...Na5 10.Rd1 Nd7 11.Bf4 0-0 12.d5 b5 13.Qc2 Kh8 14.Rab1 g5 15.Be3 e5 16.Bh3 f6 17.b4 cxb3 18.axb3 Nb6 19.Be6 Bb4 20.Ra1 Qe8 21.Bxc8 Rxc8 22.Bxb6 cxb6

6. (0.61): 9...Bd7 10.Qxc4 b5 11.Qd3 b4 12.Ne2 Na5 13.Qc2 Bb5 14.Bf4 Rc8 15.Rad1 0-0 16.Rfe1 Nh5 17.Bc1 c5 18.d5 Qb6 19.Nf4 Nxf4 20.Bxf4 Nc4 21.Bf1 exd5 22.Rxd5

Jun-18-08
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  rinus: After <8.e4>

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Nc3 Rb8 <8. e4> Be7 9. Qe2 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Rd1 Qc5 12. e5 Nd7 13. Ne4 Qb4 14. Qg4 Bf8 15. a3 Qb3 16. Bd2 Qxb2 17. Bc3 Qb6 18. Rab1 Qa7 19. Bd4 c5 20. Nd6+ Bxd6 21. exd6 cxd4 22. Qxg7 Rf8 23. Re1

ICGM Thaler,A - Rest of World, 2004


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (-0.05): 8...Be7 9.Be3 b5 10.Qe2 0-0 11.Rfd1 Nb4 12.b3 cxb3 13.axb3 Bb7 14.Bf4 Nd7 15.Na2 Re8 16.Nxb4 Bxb4 17.Bg5 f6 18.Bf4 Rc8 19.Ra2 Bd6 20.e5 fxe5 21.dxe5 Bb4 22.Nd4 Bxg2 23.Kxg2 (25-ply)

2. (0.00): 8...b5 9.d5 Nb4 10.b3 cxb3 11.Qxb3 c5 12.dxc6 Nxc6 13.Bf4 Rb7 14.e5 Na5 15.Qb1 Nd5 16.Rd1 Nc4 17.Ng5 Ncb6 18.Nxh7 Be7 19.Be3 Rd7 20.Bxb6 Nxc3 21.Bxd8 Nxb1

3. (0.25): 8...Bb4 9.d5 Bxc3 10.dxc6 Qxd1 11.Rxd1 Ba5 12.Bf4 Rg8 13.a4 b5 14.axb5 Rxb5 15.Rxa5 Rxa5 16.Bxc7 Rb5 17.Bf1 Rxb2 18.Bxc4 Rc2 19.Ne5 Rf8 20.Bd6 Rg8 21.f3 a5 22.Bc5

4. (0.33): 8...h5 9.d5 Nb4 10.Ne5 exd5 11.Nxd5 Nbxd5 12.exd5 Bc5 13.Nxc4 0-0 14.Be3 Bg4 15.Qd2 Bxe3 16.fxe3 Re8 17.Rac1 Qe7 18.h3 Bd7 19.Rc3 Rbd8 20.Qd4 Bb5 21.e4 Bxc4 22.Rxc4

5. (0.34): 8...Bd7 9.d5 Nb4 10.Ne5 exd5 11.Nxd5 Nbxd5 12.exd5 Be7 13.Nxc4 0-0 14.Bf4 Bb5 15.b3 Bd6 16.Be3 Re8 17.a4 Bd7 18.Nxd6 cxd6 19.Rc1 Bf5 20.Bd4 Rc8 21.Qd2 Rc7 22.Rfe1

6. (0.36): 8...h6 9.d5 Nb4 10.Ne5 exd5 11.Nxd5 Be7 12.Nxc4 Be6 13.Nce3 Nbxd5 14.exd5 Bd7 15.Bd2 0-0 16.Qc2 Re8 17.Rfe1 g6 18.Qb3 b5 19.Rac1 Bd6 20.Bb4 Re5 21.Bxd6 cxd6

Jun-18-08
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  rinus: <kwid> game>

[Event "NATT III"]
[Site "CCCA"]
[Date "1990.09.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Osbun, Erik"]
[Black "Widmann, Kurt"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A65"]
[PlyCount "104"]
[EventDate "1990.09.01"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5 34. b3 Ra7 35. Kg1 Qf4 36. Qxf4 Bxf4 37. Kf1 Ra3 38. Rb1 Kf7 39. Ke2 g5 40. Nc3 b4 41. Nd1 Kf6 42. Kd3 Ra7 43. Rb2 Ra1 44. Ne3 Ke5 45. Re2 Bxe3 46. Rxe3+ Kxd5 47. Re4 Ra3 48. Rg4 Rxb3+ 49. Kc2 Rc3+ 50. Kb2 Re3 51. Rxg5+ Kc4 52. Rg4+ Kb5 0-1

After <33.axb5 axb5>

Osbun,E - Widmann,K, NATT III 1990


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (23-ply):

1. (-0.35): 34.Ra1 Kg7 35.Ng5 Bf4 36.Qc3+ Qe5 37.Ne6+ Kh6 38.Qa5 Bg3

2. (-0.40): 34.Qh6 Qf4 35.Qxf4 Bxf4 36.Ra1 b4 37.Kg1 Be5 38.Ra6 b3

3. (-0.59): 34.Kg1 Kg7 35.Kf1 b4 36.Re1 Ra7 37.Qe2 Ra5 38.Nd2 Bg3

4. (-0.91): 34.b4 c4 35.Kg1 g5 36.Qe3 Qf4 37.Kf2 Qxe3+ 38.Kxe3 Bf4+

5. (-1.09): 34.Qc1 Ra7 35.Kg1 Qf4 36.Qxf4 Bxf4 37.Kf1 Kf7 38.Ke1 b4

6. (-1.10): 34.Re1 Ra7 35.Kg1 Qf4 36.Qxf4 Bxf4 37.Kf1 Kf7 38.Rb1 b4

7. (-1.10): 34.b3 Ra7 35.Kg1 Qf4 36.Qxf4 Bxf4 37.Kf1 Ra3 38.Rb1 Kf7

8. (-1.10): 34.Rf1 Ra7 35.Re1 Qf4 36.Qxf4 Bxf4 37.Kg1 Ra2 38.Rb1 b4

9. (-1.10): 34.Rb1 Ra7 35.b3 Qf4 36.Qxf4 Bxf4 37.Kg1 Ra3 38.Kf1 Kf7

10. (-1.11): 34.Nc3 b4 35.Ne4 Ra7 36.b3 Qf4 37.Kg1 Ra3 38.Qxf4 Bxf4

Jun-18-08
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  rinus: repost:

Jun-18-08
< rinus:>

Your shown pv lines are very interesting and important for assessing our collective playing strength.

Let Fruit take a look at the moves as I see them:

34. Ra1 Bf4 35. Qe1 Bg3 36. Qc3 Qe5 37. Qa5

(37. Qxe5 Bxe5 38. Ra6 b4 39. Nxd6 Bxb2 40. Ne4 Re5 41. Rxg6+ Kf8 42. Rb6 Rxd5 43. g3 hxg3 44. Kg2 Bd4 45. Kxg3 Ke7 46. Kg4 Kd7 47. f4 Kc7 48. Rb5 Kc6 49. Rb8 Rd7 50. h4 Kd5)

37... b4 38. Rd1

(38. b3 Kg7 39. Qa8 Qb2)

38... Kg7 39. b3 (39. Qd8 b3) 39... Qf5 40. Qd8 Qf8 41. Qb6 Be5 42. Kg1 Qf4

Jun-18-08
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  rinus: Game:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5

After <34.Ra1 Bf4 35.Qe1 Bg3 36.Qc3 Qe5>


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (24-ply):

1. (-0.41): 37.Qa5 Kg7 38.Qd8 b4 39.Ra6 Kh6 40.Qf8+ Qg7 41.Qxg7+ Kxg7 42.Kg1 Be5 43.Kf1 Bxb2 44.Rxd6 Bd4 45.Rb6 Rd7 46.d6 Kf7 47.Rb5 Ke6 48.Nxc5+ Bxc5 49.Rxc5 Rxd6 50.Rb5 Rd4 51.Rb6+ Kf5 52.Rb5+ Kf4

2. (-0.41): 37.Qxe5 Bxe5 38.Ra6 c4 39.Kg1 Bxb2 40.Rxd6 Kf7 41.Kf2 Rc7 42.Rd8 Bd4+ 43.Ke2 Ra7 44.Rc8 Ra2+ 45.Kf1 Ra1+ 46.Ke2 Ke7 47.d6+ Ke6 48.Rc7 Ra2+ 49.Kf1 Ra7 50.Ke1 Ra8 51.Ke2 Be5 52.Re7+ Kd5

3. (-0.57): 37.Qd3 Kg7 38.Qxb5 Qxd5 39.Qf1 Be5 40.Qc1 Qd4 41.Qg5 Bf6 42.Nxf6 Qxf6 43.Qd2 Rb7 44.Ra2 Qe5 45.Qc3 Kf6 46.Kg1 Qxc3 47.bxc3 Rb1+ 48.Kf2 d5 49.Ke3 Kf5 50.Ra4 Re1+ 51.Kd3

4. (-0.67): 37.Kg1 b4 38.Qxe5 Bxe5 39.Rb1 c4 40.Kf2 b3 41.Ke3 g5

5. (-0.67): 37.Rb1 b4 38.Qxe5 Bxe5 39.Kg1 c4 40.Kf2 b3 41.Ke3 g5

6. (-0.74): 37.Rd1 Kg7 38.Qd2 b4 39.Qe2 Qf5 40.Qd2 Be5 41.Ra1 Qf4

7. (-0.75): 37.Qc2 Kg7 38.Rd1 b4 39.Qe2 Qf5 40.Qd2 Be5 41.Ra1 Qf4

8. (-0.77): 37.Qd2 Kg7 38.Rd1 b4 39.Qe2 Qf5 40.Qd2 Be5 41.Ra1 Qf4

Back to <35...Bg3>

Jun-18-08
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  rinus: Game:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5

After <34.Ra1 Bf4 35.Qe1 Bg3>


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 <24-ply):

1. (-0.45): 36.Qa5 b4 37.Qb6 Qe5 38.Rd1 Kg7 39.b3 Bf4 40.Qd8 Ra7 41.Qxh4 Ra3 42.Re1 g5 43.Qf2 Qxd5 44.g3 Be5 45.Qe3 Bd4 46.Qxg5+ Qxg5 47.Nxg5 Rxb3 48.Ne6+ Kf6 49.Nxd4 cxd4

2. (-0.54): 36.Qc3 Qe5 37.Qd3 Kg7 38.Qxb5 Qxd5 39.Qf1 Be5 40.Qc1 Qd4 41.Qg5 Bf6 42.Nxf6 Qxf6 43.Qd2 Rb7 44.Ra2 Qe5 45.Qc3 Kf6 46.Qc4 Rb4 47.Qd3 Rd4 48.Qc2 Qe1+ 49.Kh2

3. (-0.55): 36.Qd2 Kg7 37.Ng5 Be1 38.Rxe1 Rxe1+ 39.Qxe1 Qxg5 40.Qe4 Qf6 41.Qe8 b4 42.Qd7+ Kf8 43.Kh2 Qe5+ 44.Kg1 Qd4+ 45.Kh2 Qf4+ 46.Kg1 Qe3+ 47.Kh2 Qe7 48.Qc8+ Kg7 49.Qg4 Qe5+ 50.f4 Qxd5 51.Qxh4 Qe4

4. (-0.60): 36.Qd1 Kg7 37.Ra6 Rd7 38.Qd2 Bf4 39.Qc3+ Be5 40.Qc1 Qf7 41.Qd2 Ra7 42.Rxa7 Qxa7 43.Qe1 c4 44.Ng5 Kf8 45.Ne6+ Kg8 46.f4 Bxb2 47.Qxh4 Qd7 48.f5 gxf5 49.Qg5+ Bg7 50.Qxf5

5. (-0.61): 36.Qf1 Kg7 37.Qd1 Bf4 38.Ra6 Qh5 39.Ra1 Qh6 40.b3 Be5 41.Qg1 Qf4 42.Ra2 Bd4 43.Qd1 Rf7 44.Ra6 Be5 45.Qg1 Kh6 46.b4 cxb4 47.Rb6 b3 48.Rxb5

6. (-0.61): 36.Qg1 Kg7 37.Qd1 Bf4 38.Ra6 Qh5 39.Ra1 Qh6 40.b3 Be5 41.Qg1 Qf4 42.Ra2 Bd4 43.Qd1 Rf7 44.Ra6 Be5 45.Qg1 Kh6 46.b4 cxb4 47.Rb6 b3 48.Rxb5

7. (-0.61): 36.Qc1 Kg7 37.Qd1 Bf4 38.Ra6 Qh5 39.Ra1 Qh6 40.b3 Be5 41.Qg1 Qf4 42.Ra2 Bd4 43.Qd1 Rf7 44.Ra6 Be5 45.Qg1 Kh6 46.b4 cxb4 47.Rb6 b3 48.Rxb5

8. (-0.61): 36.Qb1 Kg7 37.Qd1 Bf4 38.Ra6 Qh5 39.Ra1 Qh6 40.b3 Be5 41.Qg1 Qf4 42.Ra2 Bd4 43.Qd1 Rf7 44.Ra6 Be5 45.Qg1 Kh6 46.Nf2 Bd4 47.Qf1 Kg7 48.Qe1

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Jun-18-08  kwid: I just saw your 24 ply analysis and compared them with my idea lines. It's amazing how your fruit comes up with draw lines when my vision shows a win for black.
It really shows that my playing ability simply does not reach a sufficient depth to match any of the top rated chess engines. Oh well I had more fun playing before engines arrived at the scene, but we can not stop progress.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5 34. Ra1 Bf4 35. Qe1 Bg3 36. Qc3

(36. Qa5 Kf7 37. Qxb5

(37. b3 b4 38. Qd8 Qxd5 39. Rg1 Qe5 40. Rd1 Kg7 41. Kg1 Bf4 42. Kf1 Qe6 43. Rd3 Bg3)

37... Be5 38. Nf2 Bd4 39. Ng4

(39. Ne4 Qf4 40. Qe2 Be5 41. Kg1 Qh2+ 42. Kf2 Rb7 43. Rb1 Rb3 44. Qf1 Kg7 45. Ke2 Qf4 46. Kd1 Qf7)

39... Qxd5 40. Qb8 c4 41. Rf1 Bg7 42. Kh2 Qd3 43. Ra1 Qd4 44. Qb4 g5 45. Qb5 Kg6)

36... Qe5 37. Qxe5

(37. Qd3 Kg7 38. Qxb5 Qxd5 39. Qf1 Qf5 40. Nxg3 hxg3 41. Qc4 Qe5 42. Qc3 Rb7 43. Re1 Qf6)

(37. Qd2 Kg7 38. Rd1 b4 39. Qe2 Qf5 40. b3 Ra7 41. Kg1 Be5 42. Kf1 Qf4 43. Nf2 Bd4 44. Ng4 Qf5 45. Qc4 Re7 46. Qc1 g5 47. Qc4 Bc3 48. Rc1 Kg6 49. Kf2 Qf4 50. Qxf4 gxf4 51. Kf1 Kf5)

(37. Qa5 Kg7 38. Qd8 b4 39. Ra6 Kh6 40. Qf8+ Qg7 41. Qxg7+ Kxg7 42. Kg1 Be5 43. Kf1 b3 44. Nxd6 Bxb2 45. Nc4 Bc3 46. Rb6 Bb4 47. d6 Re1+ 48. Kf2 Rd1 49. Nb2 Rd4 50. Ke3 Kf7 51. Nd3 Ke6)

37... Bxe5 38. Ra6 b4 39. Nxd6 Bxb2 40. Ne4 Rd7 41. Rxg6+ Kf7 42. Rc6 Rxd5 43. Rxc5 Ke6 44. Rxd5 Kxd5 45. Kg1 Kd4 46. Kf1 Bc1 47. Ke1 b3 48. Kd1 Be3 49. Nd6 Kd3 50. Nb5 b2 0-1

Jun-19-08
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  rinus: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5

After <34.Ra1 Bf4>


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (26-ply):

1. (-0.45): 35.Qe1 Bg3 36.Qa5 b4 37.Qb6 Qe5 38.Rd1 Kg7 39.b3 Bf4 40.Qd8 Ra7 41.Qxh4 Ra3 42.Re1 g5 43.Qf2 Qxd5 44.g3 Be5 45.Qe3 Bd4 46.Qxg5+ Qxg5 47.Nxg5 Rxb3 48.Ne6+ Kf6 49.Nxd4 cxd4

2. (-0.56): 35.Qc3 Qe5 36.Qxe5 Bxe5 37.Ra8+ Kg7 38.b3 Bf4 39.Ra1 Rf7 40.Kg1 Rf5 41.Rd1 Kf8 42.Kf1 Ke7 43.Re1 Kd8 44.Rd1 Be5 45.Ke2 Kd7 46.Ke3 Ke7 47.Kd3 Bd4 48.Nc3 Bxc3 49.Kxc3

3. (-0.66): 35.Qf2 g5 36.Qc2 Kg7 37.Qd1 Qe5 38.b3 Rc7 39.Kg1 c4 40.bxc4 bxc4 41.Kf1 c3 42.Ra2 Be3 43.Re2 Bb6 44.Qc1 Qxd5 45.Nxg5 Rc8 46.Ne6+ Kg8 47.Qc2 Kh8 48.Qa4 Qc4 49.Qxc4 Rxc4

4. (-0.73): 35.Qe2 Kg7 36.Qe1 Qh5 37.Rd1 b4 38.Ra1 Be5 39.Qd2 Qf5

5. (-0.74): 35.Qa5 b4 36.Qb6 Kg7 37.Nxd6 Qf6 38.Nc4 Qd4 39.d6 Rf7

6. (-0.77): 35.Qd1 Qe5 36.Qe2 b4 37.Qf2 Bg3 38.Qe2 Kg7 39.Rd1 Qf5

7. (-0.85): 35.Qc2 Kg7 36.Qd1 Qe5 37.Qb3 b4 38.Rf1 Bg5 39.Nxg5 Qxg5

8. (-0.86): 35.Qd3 Kg7 36.Qd1 Qe5 37.Qb3 b4 38.Rf1 Bg5 39.Nxg5 Qxg5

Jun-19-08
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  rinus: <kwid> Game:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Nge2 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Be3 exd5 10. cxd5 Re8 11. Qd2 h5 12. Nc1 a6 13. a4 Nbd7 14. Be2 Nh7 15. O-O Ne5 16. N1a2 f5 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. Bh6 Bh8 19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Ne4 Nf7 21. Bf4 h4 22. Nac3 Nf6 23. Bd3 Ne5 24. Bxe5 Rxe5 25. Nf2 Qd7 26. Bxf5 Qxf5 27. Rfe1 Rae8 28. Rxe5 Rxe5 29. Rd1 Re7 30. Nfe4 Nxe4 31. Nxe4 Be5 32. h3 b5 33. axb5 axb5

Your new main line:

After <34.Ra1 Bf4 35.Qe1 Bg3 36.Qc3 Qe5 37.Qxe5 Bxe5 38.Ra6 b4 39.Nxd6 Bxb2 40.Ne4 Rd7 41.Rxg6+ Kf7 42.Rc6 Rxd5 43.Rxc5 Ke6>


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (26/25-ply):

1. (-0.27): 44.g3 hxg3 45.Kg2 Bd4 46.Ng5+ Kd6 47.Ne4+ Ke5 48.Rc8 b3 49.Nd2 Rb5 50.Rh8 Kf6 51.Nxb3 Rxb3 52.Kxg3 Be5+ 53.Kf2 Rb2+ 54.Ke3 Kf7 55.Rd8 Rb4 56.Rd7+ Ke6 57.Rd8 Bf6 58.Ra8 Kf5 59.Ke2 Rb2+

2. (-0.61): 44.Ng5+ Kd6 45.Ne4+ Ke5 46.g3 hxg3 47.Kg2 Rxc5 48.Nxc5 Kd4 49.Nb3+ Kc4 50.Na5+ Kb5 51.Nb3 Be5 52.h4 Bf4 53.h5 Kc4 54.Na5+ Kc3 55.h6 Bxh6 56.Kxg3 Be3 57.Kg4 Bb6 58.Nc6 b3 59.Ne7 b2

From here 25-ply

3. (-0.75): 44.Rc6+ Kd7 45.Rc2 Bd4 46.g3 b3 47.Rc1 hxg3 48.Kg2 b2

4. (-0.82): 44.g4 Bd4 45.Ng5+ Kd6 46.Ne4+ Ke5 47.Rc4 b3 48.Rb4 b2

5. (-1.14): 44.Rc2 Rd1+ 45.Kh2 Be5+ 46.g3 hxg3+ 47.Kg2 Kd5 48.Rc5+ Kd4

6. (-3.70): 44.Rxd5 Kxd5 45.Kg1 Bc1 46.Kf1 Kd4 47.Ke2 b3 48.Kd1 Bf4

Jun-20-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: @ 28-ply

1. (-0.27): 44.g3 hxg3 45.Kg2 Bd4 46.Ng5+ Kd6 47.Ne4+ Ke5 48.Rc8 b3 49.Nd2 Rb5 50.Rh8 Kf6 51.Nxb3 Rxb3 52.Kxg3 Be5+

2. (-0.38): 44.Ng5+ Kd6 45.Ne4+ Ke5 46.g3 hxg3 47.Kg2 Rxc5 48.Nxc5 Kd4 49.Nb3+ Kd3 50.f4 Bf6 51.f5 Kc3 52.Na5 Bh4

3. (-0.76): 44.Rc6+ Ke5 45.Kg1 Bd4+ 46.Kf1 b3 47.Rc7 b2 48.Rb7 Ra5 49.Ke2 Ra1 50.Nd2 Rg1 51.Kd3 Rxg2 52.Rb5+ Kd6

4. (-1.07): 44.g4 Bd4 45.Ng5+ Kd6 46.Ne4+ Ke5 47.Rc4 b3 48.Rb4 b2

5. (-1.25): 44.Rc2 Rd1+ 45.Kh2 Be5+ 46.g3 hxg3+ 47.Kg2 Kd5 48.Rc5+ Kd4

6. (-4.09): 44.f4 Rd1+ 45.Kh2 Bd4 46.Rb5 Bg1+ 47.Kh1 Kd7 48.g3 Kc6

Jun-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: repost from main forum (Jun-25-08)

hcbsb: <Jun-06-08 kb2ct: <hcbsb: <kb2ct: If I remember correctly the Kf6 draw evaluated +0.98/31 and GMT's Rc7 evaluated +0.68/31 Now just who fell into a computer trap?? :0)> Ken, Kf6 draw? I found a good victory after Kf6 on kwid PGN file and it is not necessary to play Tabanus line with h3.> I think he had a draw Helio. Wins needed both the rooks behind and the king in front

:0) >

Ken, the fact is that we need to free our Rooks to win, to get them behind.

I think the Master didn't find a convincing defense after Kf6 and Rc7 was his attempt to surprise us.

After 36.g4 Kf6 we can open our Rooks with 37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5, now a preliminary human attempt is 40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ and our Rooks are free, may you check? 42...Kg5 43.Rh5+ Kg6 43.Rf8 <+0.03> 43...Rb2+ 44.Kh3 Re2 45.Rhf5 Rxe3+ 46.Kh4 Kg7 47.R8f7+ Kh8 48.Kg5 <+0.98>

next 48...Rf3 49.Rxf3 exf3 50.Rxf3 <+2.xx> If this is correct the game is over before 60th move.


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Jun-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: Previous post needs a backslide.

Correct numbering:

37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5
40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ Kg5
43.Rh5+ Kg6 44.Rf8 Rb2+ 45.Kh3 Re2
46.Rhf5 Rxe3+ 47.Kh4 Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kh8
49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3

Jun-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <36.g4 Kf6>

After <48.R8f7+> in line

37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5 40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ Kg5 43.Rh5+ Kg6 44.Rf8 Rb2+ 45.Kh3 Re2 46.Rhf5 Rxe3+ 47.Kh4 Kg7 <48.R8f7+> Kh8 49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (29-ply):

1. (1.68): 48...Kg8 49.R7f6 Kg7 50.Rxc6 Nb4 51.Rc7+ Kg6 52.Rcf7 Rf3 53.R7f6+ Kg7 54.Rxf3 exf3 55.Rxf3 Kg6 56.Rf5 Kg7 57.Kg5 h6+ 58.Kf4 Kg6 59.Rh5 Kg7 60.Ke3 Nc2+ 61.Kd3 Nb4+ 62.Kd4 Kg6 63.Kc5 Nd3+ 64.Kb5

2. (2.54): 48...Kh8 49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3 Ne5 52.Re3 Nc4 53.Re6 Kg7 54.Rxc6 Kf7 55.Kf4 Nb2 56.Rd6 Nxa4 57.Rxd5 Nb6 58.Rxa5 Nd7 59.g5 Ke7 60.Ra8 Kf7 61.Kf5 Ke7 62.Ra5 Kd6 63.Ra7 Ke7

3. (#1): 48...Kg6 49.R5f6#

4. (#1): 48...Kh6 49.R5f6#

Line 2 was backslid upon; next on <47.Kh4>

Jun-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <36.g4 Kf6>

After <47.Kh4> in line

37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5 40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ Kg5 43.Rh5+ Kg6 44.Rf8 Rb2+ 45.Kh3 Re2 46.Rhf5 Rxe3+ <47.Kh4> Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kh8 49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (30-ply):

1. (1.62): 47...Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kg8 49.R7f6 Kg7 50.Rxc6 Nb4 51.Rc7+ Kg6 52.Rcf7 Rf3 53.R7f6+ Kg7 54.Rxf3 exf3 55.Rxf3 Kg6 56.Rf5 Kg7 57.Kg5 h6+ 58.Kh4 Kg6 59.Kg3 Kg7 60.Rf3 Kg6 61.Rc3 Kf7 62.Rc7+ Ke6 63.Rh7

2. (1.79): 47...h6 48.R8f6+ Kg7 49.Rxc6 Nb4 50.Rc7+ Kg6 51.Rcf7 Rf3 52.R7f6+ Kg7 53.Rxf3 exf3 54.Rxf3 Na2 55.Kg3 Nc1 56.Rf5 Ne2+ 57.Kf2 Nc3 58.Ke3 Nxa4 59.Rxd5 Nb2 60.Kd2 a4 61.Kc3 a3 62.Kb3 Kf6 63.Rf5+

3. (#10): 47...Rh3+ 48.Kxh3 Kg7 49.Kh4 e3 50.R8f7+ Kg8 51.Kg5 Ne5 52.Re7 Nxg4 53.Kxg4 e2 54.Kh5 e1Q 55.Rxe1 h6 56.Kxh6 d4 57.Re8#

4. (#4): 47...h5 48.gxh5+ Kh6 49.R5f6+ Kg7 50.R6f7+ Kh6 51.Rh8#

5. (#4): 47...Kh6 48.Rg8 Rh3+ 49.Kxh3 Nf2+ 50.Rxf2 d4 51.Rf6#

6. (#2): 47...Nc1 48.Rg8+ Kh6 49.Rf6#

Next on <46.Rhf5>.

Jun-26-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <36.g4 Kf6>

After <46.Rhf5> in line

37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5 40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ Kg5 43.Rh5+ Kg6 44.Rf8 Rb2+ 45.Kh3 Re2 <46.Rhf5> Rxe3+ 47.Kh4 Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kh8 49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (28-ply):

1. (0.89): 46...h6 47.Kh4 Rh2+ 48.Kg3 Re2 49.R8f6+ Kg7 50.Rxc6 Nb4 51.Rc7+ Kg6 52.Rcf7 Nd3 53.Rd7 Nb4 54.Rd6+ Kg7 55.g5 hxg5 56.Rxg5+ Kf7 57.Kf4 Nd3+ 58.Kf5 Rf2+ 59.Kg4 Rg2+ 60.Kh4 Rh2+ 61.Kg3 Re2 62.Rdxd5

2. (1.19): 46...Kg7 47.R8f7+ Kg6 48.R7f6+ Kg7 49.Rxc6 Nb4 50.Rc5 Rxe3+ 51.Kh4 Re1 52.Rxa5 Rh1+ 53.Kg3 Rg1+ 54.Kf4 Rf1+ 55.Ke3 Ra1 56.Ra7+ Kh6 57.Ra8 Kg7 58.a5 Ra3+ 59.Kf4 Nd3+ 60.Kg5 h6+ 61.Kh4 Ne1 62.Ra7+

3. (1.56): 46...Rxe3+ 47.Kh4 Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kg8 49.R7f6 Kg7 50.Rxc6 Nb4 51.Rc7+ Kg6 52.Rcf7 Rf3 53.R7f6+ Kg7 54.Rxf3 exf3 55.Rxf3 d4 56.Kg3 Nd5 57.Rd3 Nc3 58.Kf3 Nxa4 59.Rxd4 Nb6 60.Ke4 h6 61.Rd6 Nc4 62.Rd7+

4. (3.85): 46...h5 47.gxh5+ Kh6 48.R8f6+ Kh7 49.Rxc6 Rxe3+ 50.Kh4 Rf3 51.Rxd5 Rf7 52.Rxa5 Ne1 53.Kg3 Rf3+ 54.Kg4 Rf7 55.Re6 Nd3 56.Rf5 Nf2+ 57.Kf4 Nh3+ 58.Kxe4 Nf2+ 59.Kf4 Nh3+ 60.Ke5 Ra7 61.Rf8 Kg7 62.Rb8

5. (13.09): 46...Nf2+ 47.Rxf2 Rxe3+ 48.Kh4 Rf3 49.R2xf3 exf3 50.Kg3 h6 51.Kxf3 Kg7 52.Rc8 Kf7 53.Rxc6 d4 54.Ke4 d3 55.Kxd3 Ke8 56.Rxh6 Kf7 57.Kd4 Kg7 58.Ra6 Kf7 59.Rxa5 Kg8 60.Rh5 Kf7 61.a5 Kg6 62.a6

6. (#11): 46...Rh2+ 47.Kxh2 Kg7 48.R5f7+ Kg6 49.Rf6+ Kg7 50.R8f7+ Kg8 51.Re7 Ne5 52.Rxe5 Kg7 53.g5 Kg8 54.Re7 c5 55.Ra7 d4 56.Rd6 dxe3 57.Rd8#

Next on <45.Kh3>

Jun-27-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <36.g4 Kf6>

After <45.Kh3> in line

37.f5 gxf5 38.Rf1 f4 39.Rxf4+ Kg5 40.Kg2 Nd3 41.h4+ Kxh4 42.Rh1+ Kg5 43.Rh5+ Kg6 44.Rf8 Rb2+ <45.Kh3> Re2 46.Rhf5 Rxe3+ 47.Kh4 Kg7 48.R8f7+ Kh8 49.Kg5 Rf3 50.Rxf3 exf3 51.Rxf3


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (28-ply):

1. (0.00): 45...d4 46.Rhf5 h6 47.R5f6+ Kh7 48.R8f7+ Kg8 49.Ra7 dxe3 50.Rg6+ Kf8 51.Rxh6 Kg8 52.Rg6+ Kf8 53.Rf6+ Kg8 54.Rxc6 Rb8 55.Rg6+ Kh8 56.Rh6+ Kg8 57.Rf6 e2 58.Rg6+ Kf8 59.Rf6+ Kg8 <Ouch!!>

2. (0.41): 45...h6 46.Rh8 Kg7 47.R5xh6 d4 48.exd4 e3 49.R8h7+ Kg8 50.Re7 e2 51.Rxc6 Kf8 52.Rce6 Nf4+ 53.Kg3 Nxe6 54.Rxe6 Ra2 55.Kf2 Rxa4 56.Re4 Rb4 57.Kxe2 a4 58.Kd3 a3 59.Re2 Kg7 60.d5 Rb2 61.Re7+

3. (0.75): 45...Rb1 46.Rhf5 Rb7 47.R8f6+ Kg7 48.Rxc6 d4 49.Rg5+ Kf7 50.Rxa5 dxe3 51.Rf5+ Ke7 52.Rc2 Rb3 53.Re2 Kd6 54.Kg2 Ra3 55.a5 Nc5 56.Rf7 Rxa5 57.Rxh7 Ke5 58.Rxe3 Kf4 59.Rg3 Nd3 60.Rf7+ Kg5 61.Rg7+

4. (0.81): 45...Rb7 46.Kg3 Kg7 47.Ra8 Rb1 48.Ra7+ Kg6 49.Raxh7 Rg1+ 50.Kh2 Rc1 51.R7h6+ Kf7 52.Kg3 Ke7 53.Rg5 Kf7 54.Rf5+ Kg7 55.Rd6 Rc2 56.Kh4 Ne1 57.g5 Nf3+ 58.Kg3 Rc1 59.Rd7+ Kg8 60.Rc7 Rc4 61.Rf6

5. (0.83): 45...Kg7 46.Rc8 Rb7 47.Rxc6 d4 48.Rg5+ Kf7 49.Rxa5 dxe3 50.Rf5+ Ke7 51.Rc2 Rb3 52.Re2 Nc1 53.Re1 Nd3 54.Rxe3 Nf2+ 55.Kg3 Rxe3+ 56.Kxf2 Ra3 57.Re5+ Kd6 58.Rxe4 Kd5 59.Rb4 Kc5 60.Rf4 Ra2+ 61.Kf3

6. (0.89): 45...Rc2 46.Rhf5 h6 47.Kh4 Rh2+ 48.Kg3 Re2 49.R8f6+ Kg7 50.Rxc6 Nb4 51.Rc7+ Kg6 52.Rcf7 Re1 53.Rf1 Re2 54.R1f6+ Kg5 55.Rf5+ Kg6 56.Rf1 Nd3 57.R1f6+ Kg5 58.Rf5+ Kg6 59.Rd7 Nb4 60.Rd6+ Kg7 61.g5

Jun-30-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  rinus: After <55.Rd4+ Kc5 56.Rb8 Re6+ 57.Re4>


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Analysis by Fruit 2.3.1 (30-ply):

1. (5.01): 57...Rc6 58.Rb5+ Kd6 59.Rxh5 Kc7 60.Re7+ Kb6 61.Rb5+ Ka6 62.Re8 Ka7 63.Rxa5+ Kb6 64.Rb5+ Ka7 65.Kd2 Rd6 66.h5 Rc6 67.Kc2 Rd6 68.Kc3 Rc6 69.Re4 Nc1 70.a5 Rd6 71.Rxc4 Ne2+ 72.Kb4 Rd7 73.h6

2. (5.08): 57...Ra6 58.Rb5+ Kd6 59.Rxh5 Ra8 60.Rd4+ Ke7 61.Rxc4 Nb4 62.Rcc5 Kf6 63.Rhf5+ Kg7 64.Rxa5 Rd8 65.Rac5 Re8+ 66.Rfe5 Rd8 67.a5 Rd6 68.Rb5 Nc6 69.Rg5+ Kf8 70.Rgf5+ Ke7 71.h5 Re6+ 72.Kf4 Rd6 73.Rb7+

3. (5.47): 57...Rxe4+ 58.Kxe4 Nf2+ 59.Kf3 Nd3 60.Ke3 Kc6 61.Rh8 Ne1 62.Rh6+ Kd7 63.Rxh5 c3 64.Rd5+ Ke6 65.Rxa5 Ng2+ 66.Kd3 Nxh4 67.Kxc3 Nf3 68.Rb5 Ne5 69.a5 Nc6 70.a6 Kd7 71.a7 Nxa7 72.Rb7+ Kc6 73.Rxa7

4. (5.88): 57...Rb6 58.Rxc4+ Kxc4 59.Rxb6 Ne1 60.Rb5 Ng2+ 61.Ke4 Nxh4 62.Rxa5 Kb4 63.Rxh5 Ng6 64.a5 Ne7 65.a6 Nc6 66.Rh7 Kc5 67.a7 Nxa7 68.Rxa7 Kd6 69.Ra5 Ke6 70.Ra6+ Ke7 71.Ke5 Kd7 72.Rh6 Kc7 73.Kd5

5. (6.69): 57...Re5 58.Rxe5+ Nxe5 59.Rb5+ Kd6 60.Kd4 Nf3+ 61.Kxc4 Nxh4 62.Rxa5 Kc6 63.Rxh5 Ng2 64.Re5 Kb6 65.Re6+ Ka7 66.Re7+ Ka6 67.Re4 Ka5 68.Kd3 Ka6 69.Ke2 Kb6 70.Kf3 Kc5 71.Kxg2 Kb6 72.Kf3 Ka6 73.Ke3

6. (9.45): 57...Rd6 58.Rb5+ Kc6 59.Rxc4+ Kd7 60.Rxh5 Nb4 61.Rxa5 Rb6 62.h5 Na6 63.Kf4 Kd8 64.Rb5 Re6 65.Kg5 Nc7 66.Rb8+ Kd7 67.Rb7 Kd6 68.Rbxc7 Re5+ 69.Kg4 Re1 70.h6 Rg1+ 71.Kf4 Rf1+ 72.Kg5 Rg1+ 73.Rg4

Jul-06-08  zanshin: <rinus: Your Rybka engine must have quirks; look what Fruit makes of the same position: >

I will let <ganstaman> know. I got the same weird result with a cleared hash table and a different version of Rybka (if I recall right).

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