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| Mar-16-06 | | RolandTesh: <apawnandafool>
<Brilliant! I'll give you 1500 points for seize, but I'll have to deduct 6 points for the cheney answer, so your rating is 1494.> I think I also deserve 1207 points for "detach," since you can detach something to something -- as in "adhering a military unit to a critical situation." That brings me up to 2701. Add 1 more point for the fact that "seize" is the better known and shorter answer -- and I'm up to 2702! Yeh! I've accepted and factored in the 6 point deduction for "cheney," even though he does both "adhere and separate" -- plus, I've heard that the 2007 edition of Merriam-Webster will incude "cheney" as a verb. (God only knows what the definition will be :-) |
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| Mar-16-06 | | who: Another example is peruse
<peruse
One entry found for peruse.
Main Entry: pe·ruse
Pronunciation: p&-'rüz
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): pe·rused; pe·rus·ing
Etymology: Middle English, to use up, deal with in sequence, from Latin per- thoroughly + Middle English usen to use
1 a : to examine or consider with attention and in detail : STUDY b : to look over or through in a casual or cursory manner
2 : READ; especially : to read over in an attentive or leisurely manner
- pe·rus·al /-'rü-z&l/ noun
- pe·rus·er noun>
http://www.meriamwebster.com/dictio...
What a stupid word. I don't think it's possible to find a sentence where peruse couldn't be substituted with the word read - you need an adverb to clarify which meaning you are using anyway. |
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| Mar-16-06 | | who: In my totally unbiased opinion my example is best as "I perused Moby Dick" actually can mean one of two opposite things. In the example of cleave there is no way (I can think of) to construct a sentence with two opposite meaning. Different meanings of the word cleave require different sentence constructions. |
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| Mar-16-06 | | DrDum: peruse <1 a : to examine or consider with attention and in detail : STUDY b : to look over or through in a casual or cursory manner> am I missing something? aren't those two defintiions mutually exclusive? How can you both read something in a cursory and detailed manner? Ive always thought of perused in the second def. as in "I perused my chess books" :=D |
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| Mar-16-06 | | DrDum: My dictionary gives the same def! Fie I say Fie on the English language which allows words to be their own antonyms. Actually I think this is an interesting thread loving words and language myself. |
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| Mar-17-06 | | Chesschatology: <peruse>
I think that peruse means "browse in a leisurely fashion". Therefore it is more about the calm, unhurried and non-systematic way in which you examine something than whether you do so with great care or none at all. It is a word that conveys the style of the action in question more than the content thereof. As such it is atmospheric, but not forensic! But don't knock it for that... |
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| Mar-17-06 | | apawnandafool: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition has this to say about Peruse: Usage Note: Peruse has long meant “to read thoroughly” and is often used loosely when one could use the word read instead. Sometimes people use it to mean “to glance over, skim,” as in I only had a moment to peruse the manual quickly, but this usage is widely considered an error. Sixty-six percent of the Usage Panel finds it unacceptable. |
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| Mar-17-06 | | Chesschatology: <apawnandafool>
Maverns aside, I still think I'm right-the connotation of this word has overthrown its denotation, language lives and grows... 33% of some group experts agree with me (possibly).
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Mar-17-06
 | | Sneaky: Fascinating stuff. I believe I've been using the word 'peruse' incorrectly all my life. OK, here's a definition, you guys tell me the word. It can mean either 1. "from then until now"
or
2. "because"
The second usage is a small matter of debate. I personally don't use this word in that way any more as I believe it represents sloppy thinking. |
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| Mar-17-06 | | me to play: <Sneaky> Is the word..."since" ? |
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| Mar-17-06 | | apawnandafool: <me to play> I don't think you're correct, just look at its presentation. I can use the word "since", because it is not a matter of choice. I will also use the word "because", since it is not a matter of debate. Sneaky writes that he does not use the "secret word" in the second way. This must mean that the "secret word" is slang if used by its second 'definition'. (As was the case for the "peruse" useage in the second manner, mind many magisterial mavens. Which makes this quite an interesting round.) So we have a "secret word" which means "from then until now" and is also used by many people, quite incorrectly, as a synonym for "because". The word I'm thinking of is three letters, not five. I'll let someone else guess with that hint. |
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Mar-17-06
| | Sneaky: <me to play> Yes the word is "since." What I was hinting at, is that I don't like to use the word like this: "Since knights can hop over pieces, they are great attackers in closed positions." That implies that there was a time when knights couldn't hop over pieces, and then something changed, and ever since that time, knights have become great attackers in closed positions. But that's nonsense! So I would instead choose "BECAUSE knights can hop over pieces..." By way of comparison I might say "Since I have become familiar with some basic rook endings, I'm comfortable with early queen trades." and then I would be using its true meaning "from then until now", implying that I was not comfortable with early queen trades before that time. One might also say "because" in that sentence but "since" conveys a little more information. |
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| Mar-18-06 | | Averageguy: <Sneaky> 1...Nd2+ 2.Ka1 Qxa2+ 3.Kxa2 Ra5# |
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| Mar-18-06 | | apawnandafool: hmmm...ok. I didn't think "since" was correct. Because I probably use the word "Since" in the manner described of the chess position. I mastered the endgame in 2003, and I've been initiating early queen trades for three years, for I'm comfortable with rooks endings. I was thinking the word was "for". |
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Mar-18-06
| | Sneaky: <Averageguy: <Sneaky> 1...Nd2+ 2.Ka1 Qxa2+ 3.Kxa2 Ra5#> That's right, an "Anastasia mate" I think that's called. <apawnandafool> Ahh, I was wondering what your three letter word is. "For" definitely can be used in place of "because" but I don't think it conveys any information about time. You discarded "since" because you didn't think that there was any debate regarding that word, but you underestimate my propensity to debate! |
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| Mar-18-06 | | apawnandafool: Ok, ok, It's your game, it's your site! ;) But how about if I make things more intersting? Here's my proposed modification to your game. Instead of using the actual definitions of a word that convey its meaning, use replacement phrases that convey the definitions. I'm thinking something like... Modified Sneaky-Dictionary game. Instructions: guess the word that unites all three ideas: A.) 3+4=?
B.) The Caspian
C.) my last MasterCard payment
Actually, the action of guessing the correct word could be another clue.(btw <RolandTesh> that was pretty funny stuff!) |
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| Mar-18-06 | | RolandTesh: <apawnandafool>
<Modified Sneaky-Dictionary game. Instructions: guess the word that unites all three ideas:> Is it "seas" ?
<A.) 3+4=?> (seven seas) <B.) The Caspian> (sea) <C.) my last MasterCard payment> (seize) Yeh, I got to score with "seize" again!
BTW, there is a fairly popular board game called "Tribond" with this premise. |
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| Mar-19-06 | | apawnandafool: Here's the solution:
n. 1.
a.A homogeneous mixture of two or more substances, which may be solids, liquids, gases, or a combination of these.
b.The process of forming such a mixture.
2.The state of being dissolved.
3.
a.The method or process of solving a problem.
b.The answer to or disposition of a problem.
4. [Law] Payment or satisfaction of a claim or debt.
5. The act of separating or breaking up; dissolution. (dictionary.com)
<RolandTesh gets 97points for creativity brings his total to 2799> I checked out tribond, and it's not quite what I had in mind. I just wanted to exchange the precise definitions for words that would convey the definitions, trying to make Sneaky's game into a "two-stepper". <Sneaky, all> I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of weeks, so thanks for the fun! Asta manzana!
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| Mar-20-06 | | gus inn: <to all >
A chessfriend of mine once played in a teams competition.And after a definately not non-alcoholic trip in the town - he installed for the game - next day.Very , very tired.Made some moves , made some more moves.And with his hangoverhead he felt asleep - head deep burried in his hands.But when he woke up his oponent had resigned !! ??.
The moral ?...
One could say he perused.
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Mar-21-06
| | Sneaky: Here's an easy one. A soldier was out of ammunition and cried that he needed more, when his buddy handed him an old issue of "Better Homes and Gardens." What common English word was the cause of this miscommunication? |
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Mar-22-06
 | | WannaBe: Took me all day, and it came to me while laying in bed, had to jump up and answer it. Magazine. |
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Mar-22-06
| | Sneaky: Hehe, bingo. English sure is a weird language, isn't it? |
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| Mar-22-06 | | Chesschatology: I liked, as I like still, to make words look self-conscious and foolish, to bind them by the mock marriage of a pun, to turn them inside out, to come upon them unawares. What is this jest in majesty? This ass in passion? How do God and Devil combine to form a live dog? Nabokov, "Despair"
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| Mar-22-06 | | AdrianP: <Chesschatology>
Some funny examples
Ada and Van playing scrabble: "STIRCOIL"; "INSECT / SCIENT". ... ;-) (Nabokov, "Ada"). Miss LESter and Miss FaBIAN (Nabokov, "Lolita"). |
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| Mar-22-06 | | Chesschatology: <AdrianP>
The LESter and FaBIAN joke is one of my favourites. Hadn't come across the other one- thanks! Also of course- the famous Vivian Darkbloom anagram which caused Martin and Kingsley Amis not to talk to each other for several years! |
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