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| Jun-07-06 | | Xaurus: Hey guys, I thought you might be interested in following the progress in a chess-engine tournament I'm holding, feel free to do so. You can also comment on it in my forum! http://home.halden.net/mordor/xcet/...
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: So many questions... =)
<ganstaman> Thanks for answering <hitman84> for me. What you said were absolutely correct. I am running on inf. analysis, and I wait until there is a clear 'better' line. Now, this may mean 13...Rb8 is -0.02 versus 13...Be6 -0.05 One reason I was very surprised at 9...Na5, and immediately went to Opening Explorer to look it up. It is horrible for black side. Is it because it's more complex? Do human have a hard time calculating in this kind of position? I don't know... Perhaps someone with more chess/positional knowledge can answer that. After 1.e4, it examined Nc6, d5, e5. I did not see it look at c5 at all!! (And I love to play the Sicilian.) It finally slowly settled between d5 and e5, and finally e5. =) <Open Defence> Usually the default settings are good enough, depending on what you want to do, play a game against it, or have it do analysis. You can tinker with the default values. |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 0-0 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14.Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1  click for larger viewCurrent position, black (Shredder) to move. =) |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Dionyseus> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 0-0 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14.Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 click for larger view |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <WannaBe> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 0-0 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14.Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 16.Qc2 Molto complicato |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: I'm gonna return this piece of crap software, it's been looking at Nh5 (??) for the last 30 minutes... Looks like I'm gonna have a knight on one edge of the board and my other knight on the other! Oy Vey. |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <WannaBe> Hey, maybe computers understand chess better than us humans ;p |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 O-O 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 16.Qc2 Rab8 click for larger view |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: <Usually the default settings> <Wannabe> sorry i shoulda clarified.. I meant hardware configuration..... |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Open Defence> The packaging or the web-site for the chess program/engine usually have a minimum requirement. But if you only meet the minimum req. it will be slow, very slow. I don't know what software you have in mind, nor the current CPU + RAM of your laptop. |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: well I believe I have a 1.5 GHz processor and 224MB RAM, at least thats what it tells.. I was thikning of Rybka seeing its analysis... however I have never used Chess Engines.. not really sure where to start....thought it might be useful for composing puzzles...so that tactical oversights are cleaned up |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Open Defence> That laptop sounds/looks like the configuration of mine, but I have also added 512M of RAM to it. I can handle Shredder 10 on it fine. Only exception is when I leave the chess engine on infinite analysis or asking it to check one of the game that I have played for blunders or better move(s). When I do that, it takes up virtually all of my CPU, task manager is showing 100% usage, and if I want to switch to a browser and check kibitzin', it may take up to 10 seconds for the browser to be restored, and contents to be displayed. So, if you stay at your current RAM configuration, it will be even slower. But if that doesn't bother you, it's no big deal. =) On my desktop, running Pentium 4, dual core, with 3.5GHz, and 1G of RAM, I don't see any slowdown at all. I'm compiling software, while the engine is running its analysis, checking the web, etc. |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: <Pentium 4, dual core, with 3.5GHz, and 1G of RAM,> so I think its worth getting a separate puter for the analysis.. probably one of the cheap assembled ones.. the peripherals won't be great but the processor and ram.. |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <WannaBe> Is your desktop truly double core, or is it hyperthreading? Mines is a P4 3.2ghz with hyperthreading, so regardless yours is a bit superior to mines.
Rybka is currently analysing the position, I'll let it think for an hour or so. |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: <Nh5 (??)> that move looks interesting is it contemplting Nf4 or f5?! |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Dionyseus> Sorry, mistake, hyper, not dual core. http://www.dell.com/content/product... <Open Defence> as far as that Nh5, here is an interesting side note. After about an hour of 'thinking' or so, it came to the conclusion that both Nh5 and Rab1 are the same +0.15 I wasn't quite sure what it had in mind, or where that knight was gonna go. But since I already have a "drunken" knight, I wasn't gonna allow another one. So the Rab1 move was my call. =) |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: <dionyseus> is Rybka generally this passive in the openings ? |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: btw Wannabe have you seen the Shatranj puzzles ? :-D |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Open Defence> I've seen your first two. But I'm not sure if it requires special Shatranj knowledge(s) or not. Or does it follow regular chess rules? |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Open Defence: <requires special Shatranj knowledge(s) or not> well it does... some of the Shatranj pieces move differently my bio lists the way the pieces move and I has a link too in case you would like to check it out.... |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <Open Defense> I used Chessbase 9 for my opening. And now that we're talking about the opening, I'd like to point out this game that I saw in the database, which is the reason why I avoided 12.Nc4 in this position:
 click for larger view[Event "Amber-rapid 15th"]
[Site "Monte Carlo"]
[Date "2006.03.18"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Morozevich, Alexander"]
[Black "Leko, Peter"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C88"]
[WhiteElo "2721"]
[BlackElo "2740"]
[PlyCount "196"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. a4
b4 9. d3 d6 10. Nbd2 Na5 11. Ba2 c5 12. Nc4 Nc6 13. c3 Rb8 14. h3 h6 15. d4
cxd4 16. cxd4 Nxd4 17. Nxd4 exd4 18. Bf4 Be6 19. Rc1 Nd7 20. Bb1 Bg5 21. Bxg5
Qxg5 22. Bd3 Ne5 23. Bf1 Bxc4 24. Bxc4 Rfc8 25. Bxa6 Rxc1 26. Qxc1 Nf3+ 27. Kf1
Nxe1 28. Qxg5 hxg5 29. Kxe1 b3 30. Kd2 Rb4 31. Bb5 Kf8 32. Kd3 Ke7 33. Bc6 Kd8
34. a5 Kc7 35. Bd5 f6 36. Bc4 Ra4 37. Bxb3 Rxa5 38. Kxd4 Ra1 39. Bd5 Kb6 40.
Be6 Rd1+ 41. Ke3 Kc5 42. g3 Re1+ 43. Kd3 Rb1 44. b3 Rb2 45. Ke3 Rc2 46. Kf3 Kd4
47. Bf5 Ke5 48. Bh7 Rb2 49. Bg8 Kd4 50. Bf7 Rd2 51. h4 gxh4 52. gxh4 Rc2 53. h5
Ke5 54. Bg6 Rb2 55. Bf7 Rb1 56. Bg8 Re1 57. Bh7 Rh1 58. Kg4 Rg1+ 59. Kf3 d5 60.
exd5 Kxd5 61. Kf4 Rg5 62. Bg6 Kd6 63. f3 Rb5 64. Kg4 Rxb3 65. f4 Rb2 66. Kf5
Rb5+ 67. Kg4 Ra5 68. Bh7 Rc5 69. Bg8 Ke7 70. Ba2 Rc2 71. Bb3 Rh2 72. Bc4 Kd6
73. Bf7 Ke7 74. Bc4 Rc2 75. Bb3 Rc5 76. Ba2 Kd6 77. Bb3 Kc6 78. Be6 Kd6 79. Bb3
Ra5 80. Bf7 Ke7 81. Bb3 Ra1 82. Bc4 Rh1 83. Bb3 Kd6 84. Bf7 Ke7 85. Bb3 Kf8 86.
Bc4 Rc1 87. Bb3 Rc5 88. Ba2 Ra5 89. Bb3 Ke7 90. Bc4 Kd6 91. Bf7 Rc5 92. Bg8 Kc6
93. Be6 Kb5 94. h6 gxh6 95. f5 Kc6 96. Kh5 Kd6 97. Kxh6 Ke5 98. Kg6 Rc1 0-1 <WannaBe>
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 O-O 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 16.Qc2 Rab8 17.Ba3 |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Dionyseus> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 O-O 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 16.Qc2 Rab8 17. Ba3 Rxb1 click for larger view |
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| Jun-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <WannaBe> 18.Qxb1 |
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Jun-07-06
 | | WannaBe: <Dionyseus> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 b4 9. Nbd2 Na5 10. Ba2 c5 11. Re1 O-O 12. c3 bxc3 13. bxc3 Be6 14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Rb1 Qd7 16.Qc2 Rab8 17. Ba3 Rxb1 18. Qxb1 Qxa4  click for larger view |
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| Jun-07-06 | | LIFE Master AJ: <WannaBe>
Don't get too upset because Shredder wants to put one (or both) Knight(s) on the edge of the board, I know of several examples where a GM did this ... and won! |
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